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On 4/5/2025 at 12:48 PM, futureman said:

how’s your night vision?

Been away for a while.

Night vision is great.   No halos, no problems with headlights.

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12 hours ago, Nuge said:

What's the story with Butler?

I was excited when he committed but now it seems like there is some vitriol associated with him.

Bad teammate?  Cancer in the locker room?  Likes to party too much?  Over rated as a prospect?

What gives?

 

12 hours ago, cafe society said:

I've gotten the impression that he doesn't have good hands and isn't always where he's supposed to be in his routes.

He was committed to USC as a DB before he flipped to us late in December. 

Probably should go ahead and move back to DB at his next stop. 

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Butler did one of those early commitments to USC in the fall of 2022, decommitted in early ‘23, pledged his loyalty to Deion and Colorado in May, then backed off that commitment in December.

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ESPN 300 athlete Aaron Butler decommitted from Colorado on Saturday, his father confirmed to ESPN.

Butler had been committed to the Buffs since May, but is now the third decommitment for coach Deion Sanders in the 2024 class since November.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39078930/espn-300-athlete-aaron-butler-decommits-colorado

His commitment to us kinda came out of nowhere (though the above linked article did mention Texas as a possibility). He pretty much picked us on signing day, or the night before.  He signed with us without ever visiting, so that’s always a tricky one for both player and school.

https://247sports.com/Player/aaron-butler-46098986/TimelineEvents/

I recall he was very active with social media and enjoyed the spotlight. This video was an example of:

I have zero inside knowledge, but I suspect having such ambition, then redshirting for a year with no game action, then seeing yourself at the bottom of the depth chart can lead to a less than harmonious environment. 

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3 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Unknown guest on Dan Patrick:

Scouts watching tape saw a big difference in arm strength between arch and Quinn.  Sark was loyal to Quinn.  Quinn is similar to sanders. 

Anyone with eyes saw a big difference in arm strength between Arch and Quinn. That's like saying the sky is blue.

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If Arch wasn't true team guy there would have been a very bad QB controversy last year. Arch sat 2 years behind an extremely limited QB whom he saw every day he was better than. He did it quietly. 

A lesser QB would have blown up team chemistry and transfered if he didn't get his way. 

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19 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

If Arch wasn't true team guy there would have been a very bad QB controversy last year. Arch sat 2 years behind an extremely limited QB whom he saw every day he was better than. He did it quietly. 

A lesser QB would have blown up team chemistry and transfered if he didn't get his way. 

I don't know if Arch was better at processing the defense than Quinn though...

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6 minutes ago, westexhorn said:

I don't know if Arch was better at processing the defense than Quinn though...

We score more points per game with Arch last year.  Easily.  It will be obvious this year, even with less skill position talent and arguably a step back on the OL.

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34 minutes ago, westexhorn said:

I don't know if Arch was better at processing the defense than Quinn though...

Quinn accounting for 17 turnovers himself doesn't sound like he has much of a grasp either. Or he couldn't physically do what he needed to do with that processing. 

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I say this being super excited about Arch Manning next year

There is going to be a lot of upset people in here next year when the reality that Arch is human and makes mistakes smacks you in the face

Some of you are hyping him as the next VY , and I hope you're right, but many of you need to taper some expectations 

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VY made mistakes too. A lot of them

But when the game was on the line the dude stepped up and got it done. 

We haven't had that at the QB position since Ehlinger, but he didn't have the team around him VY did. 

The team around the QB to get it done has been built for 2 straight seasons. Arch needs to be the QB that gets it done despite making mistakes at times. That's what he will be judged on by rational people. 

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30 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said:

I say this being super excited about Arch Manning next year

There is going to be a lot of upset people in here next year when the reality that Arch is human and makes mistakes smacks you in the face

Some of you are hyping him as the next VY , and I hope you're right, but many of you need to taper some expectations 

Oh shut up, loser.

24 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

VY made mistakes too. A lot of them

But when the game was on the line the dude stepped up and got it done. 

We haven't had that at the QB position since Ehlinger, but he didn't have the team around him VY did. 

The team around the QB to get it done has been built for 2 straight seasons. Arch needs to be the QB that gets it done despite making mistakes at times. That's what he will be judged on by rational people. 

As long as he doesn't make 17 costly mistakes I think we'll be fine.

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1 hour ago, BigHornedLurker said:

I say this being super excited about Arch Manning next year

There is going to be a lot of upset people in here next year when the reality that Arch is human and makes mistakes smacks you in the face

Some of you are hyping him as the next VY , and I hope you're right, but many of you need to taper some expectations 

I never freaked out about VY's mistakes.  Because he usually made a lot of plays to offset them, even in years 1 and 2. We had a pretty decent offense in 2002 with Simms.  Our points per drive went up like 35% in 2003 with VY because of his playmaking ability.  Arch will make mistakes.  But I just don't see our offense going dormant for long stretches with him like it would frequently do with Ewers.  We had way too many games where we simply were not scoring the points we should have scored given the talent on the offensive line and skill positions -- both UGA games, Arkansas, Ags, Vandy, Ohio State.

And don't kid yourself -- Ewers made plenty of mistakes too.  He had, what, at least four turnovers turn into defensive scores?  17 turnovers overall in 14 games.  I doubt Manning turns it over at a higher rate than that.  I expect more consistent production.  And more big plays.

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On 4/24/2025 at 2:20 PM, Askew said:

Not sure if this is accurate. Right now Butler can still lean on his recruit ranking. By next Dec hes a 3rd year JAG with no stats. 

If other teams were high on him they would be tampering to get him in the portal.  It doesn’t seem like that’s the case so If it’s his choice he better make sure he has teams willing to take a chance on him before he goes in this late in the process.

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