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2 hours ago, Wally Fairway said:

Has President Huff & Puff lost his stuff? 
I don't see him out making outrageous claims every day (sometimes 2 or 3 times a day), or has the media grown tired of reporting on all of the noise?  And to repeat a point from last week, if there are 75-100 tariff deals to be made, with countries begging to get off the tariff train, why aren't we hearing about any new deals or seeing a parade of leaders coming to kiss the ring? (answer: because no one is buying the noise that he is selling)

Tune into his rally in Michigan today. I’m sure you’ll hear plenty of outlandish bullshit.

And there aren’t any deals. That’s all bullshit too. Do you not know how this works?

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4 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

I will never understand why people cower at dotard.  He's weak, old, stupid and pathetic. 

The only real threat he seems to hold is to primary you with a lunatic candidate. If you aren't a pol, who cares. 

Otherwise he just talks stupid shit online and with the occasional unconstitutional EO. 

Posted
4 hours ago, Red Five said:

Alright democrats, here we go. This is something called an “opportunity”. Blast that shit everywhere. “Amazon was going to tell you how much extra taxes you’re paying because of Trump, before Trump begged Bezos to not do it.”

You need to give up this fantasy that the clueless/spineless morons in the democratic party are capable of rising to the moment. Their political impotence grows by the day. 

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6 minutes ago, Blotto said:

You need to give up this fantasy that the clueless/spineless morons in the democratic party are capable of rising to the moment. Their political impotence grows by the day. 

We'll see. A few of them clearly want to step up. We need to follow them and tell the others to fuck off. Then people will see where the wind is blowing.

Or not. But it is up to us to make them, they sure as fuck won't do it on their own.

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

The only real threat he seems to hold is to primary you with a lunatic candidate. If you aren't a pol, who cares. 

Otherwise he just talks stupid shit online and with the occasional unconstitutional EO. 

 

Other than that whole threatening note taped to your office door with a picture of you walking your dog taken from a drone thing. 

Or the magats breaking into your house with hammer thing. 

Or...

 

 

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Posted
1 minute ago, TexArcher said:

I can't believe anyone still thinks the Democrats can save things somehow.  

BUT BUT BUT ONE DAY AMERICANS WILL WAKE UP AND MAKE IT RIGHT

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I swear, people are gonna be in the Leftist Re-education Camps like, "I just hope Pete and Booker team up for 2028, and 20 million young people suddenly stop being brainwashed by Joe Rogan, and like all of the Latinos from Brownsville to San Diego suddenly come back around, then we'll be free again."

I get that denial is a necessary stage, but the sooner you get to acceptance and make an exit plan, the better, imo.  The country you grew up in is dead and buried, and it ain't coming back.

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Posted
6 hours ago, Red Five said:

Alright democrats, here we go. This is something called an “opportunity”. Blast that shit everywhere. “Amazon was going to tell you how much extra taxes you’re paying because of Trump, before Trump begged Bezos to not do it.”

Is Amazon caving to Trump over listing consumer price increases due to tariffs MORE of an opportunity than Uvalde school children getting blown to literal pieces? Beto of the do-nothing Democrats confronted Abbott directly to his face. It was publicized. It didn't matter. Perhaps energy spent complaining about the ineffectiveness of Dems efforts on a cult to this point could be put to better use. 

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26 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

I swear, people are gonna be in the Leftist Re-education Camps like, "I just hope Pete and Booker team up for 2028, and 20 million young people suddenly stop being brainwashed by Joe Rogan, and like all of the Latinos from Brownsville to San Diego suddenly come back around, then we'll be free again."

I get that denial is a necessary stage, but the sooner you get to acceptance and make an exit plan, the better, imo.  The country you grew up in is dead and buried, and it ain't coming back.

I get it man. But where the fuck are some of to go? I can’t leave my parents behind and with their health issues, they don’t have many options. At this point, I would rather work to preserve our country

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34 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

I get it man. But where the fuck are some of to go? I can’t leave my parents behind and with their health issues, they don’t have many options. At this point, I would rather work to preserve our country

You are in the demographic that will be fine. Some of us are watching the situation very very closely, have our passports updated, and bugout bag on the ready.

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33 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

I get it man. But where the fuck are some of to go? I can’t leave my parents behind and with their health issues, they don’t have many options. At this point, I would rather work to preserve our country

Yep, cya Mom and Dad! Thanks for raising me and good luck with yalls memory and mobility issues *jetpacks out*

 

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45 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

I get it man. But where the fuck are some of to go? I can’t leave my parents behind and with their health issues, they don’t have many options. At this point, I would rather work to preserve our country

I hear you. I am also here until my aging mother passes away, maybe 5 years or more.

I just don't have any illusions about this country unfucking itself in that time.  All the work in the world by good and intelligent people isn't going to change anything, because the good and intelligent are now significantly outnumbered by the evil and stupid.  It took over a generation for it to get like this, and it'll take over a generation to fix it, if it's possible at all.

Me, I don't have the time or the patience to wait around for all that.  I'll be there for my mom, then I'll go live out my days in some beautiful place that costs 1/4th as much to live in anyway.  I think it's okay to break up with your country if she become a dangerous fucking lunatic.

 

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Posted
4 hours ago, aggie08 said:

Where has that stuff been exposed up to this point?

Led an insurrection on live TV.

Convicted of 34 felonies.  It was mentioned a couple of times.

Impeached twice.

But yeah, a tariff line item is what's going to get him.

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36 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

You are in the demographic that will be fine. Some of us are watching the situation very very closely, have our passports updated, and bugout bag on the ready.

@SubliminalHorn is absolutely in an at risk demographic.

I'm sure you weren't aware and I'll let him tell you what's up if he wants.

but let's all try not to build divides where we are all united

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1 hour ago, TexArcher said:

I swear, people are gonna be in the Leftist Re-education Camps like, "I just hope Pete and Booker team up for 2028, and 20 million young people suddenly stop being brainwashed by Joe Rogan, and like all of the Latinos from Brownsville to San Diego suddenly come back around, then we'll be free again."

I get that denial is a necessary stage, but the sooner you get to acceptance and make an exit plan, the better, imo.  The country you grew up in is dead and buried, and it ain't coming back.

All the cultists chanting 'USA USA USA' to Trump's torture immigrants porn video was certainly a sign of that.

But anyway I am resigned to my fate. At least for now.

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1 hour ago, TexArcher said:

I hear you. I am also here until my aging mother passes away, maybe 5 years or more.

I just don't have any illusions about this country unfucking itself in that time.  All the work in the world by good and intelligent people isn't going to change anything, because the good and intelligent are now significantly outnumbered by the evil and stupid.  It took over a generation for it to get like this, and it'll take over a generation to fix it, if it's possible at all.

Me, I don't have the time or the patience to wait around for all that.  I'll be there for my mom, then I'll go live out my days in some beautiful place that costs 1/4th as much to live in anyway.  I think it's okay to break up with your country if she become a dangerous fucking lunatic.

 

I don't think most are sticking around due to "love of country." More like jobs, regular income, young children, family, difficulty in establishing permanent residence in a foreign country, etc. 

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1 hour ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Led an insurrection on live TV.

Convicted of 34 felonies.  It was mentioned a couple of times.

Impeached twice.

But yeah, a tariff line item is what's going to get him.

In this timeline? You’re god damn right it could. 

Posted
5 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Led an insurrection on live TV.

Convicted of 34 felonies.  It was mentioned a couple of times.

Impeached twice.

But yeah, a tariff line item is what's going to get him.

Overblown and not his fault. 

Lawfare. 

Witch hunt and they couldn't get the votes.

 

We all know that they'll find a way to justify anything and everything, so long as he keeps promising to punish the people that they don't like AND keeps those radical leftists from taking anymore of their hard-earned money to give to undesirables and shit hole countries.

No, a tariff line item wasn't going to be the start of his downfall...but it would have  been something to get people talking with potentially some actual staying power for a change.

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Well, if it really is "the economy stupid" (and it is, to a degree) and Trump fucks the economy in a way that hurts people like post-Covid inflation and without the jobs and other aspects of Biden's probably best-case economy, I think 2020 is reproducible.

Yes, the base is irretrievable.  But there's a reachable or convinceable middle.

And, although the base will forgive Trump endlessly, I think a serious economic fumble makes it that much harder for the GOP to continue Trumpism without Trump.

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Posted
3 hours ago, aggie08 said:

No, a tariff line item wasn't going to be the start of his downfall...but it would have  been something to get people talking with potentially some actual staying power for a change.

Let me make it more clear since you aren’t getting it. The tariff line item don’t mean shit. The TARIFF means shit. The tariff is still there so whether Bezos capitulated or not isn’t worth getting fired up over. 

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3 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, if it really is "the economy stupid" (and it is, to a degree) and Trump fucks the economy in a way that hurts people like post-Covid inflation and without the jobs and other aspects of Biden's probably best-case economy, I think 2020 is reproducible.

Yes, the base is irretrievable.  But there's a reachable or convinceable middle.

And, although the base will forgive Trump endlessly, I think a serious economic fumble makes it that much harder for the GOP to continue Trumpism without Trump.

You’re assuming there are free and fair elections. 

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

A trade deal is already done except for the part where the other country agrees to it.

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Let me guess -- the brilliant businessman strong-armed Botswana into paying 140% tariff on the 0 goods they send us every year, in exchange for just $75 billion in Treasury Bills.

Suck it, libs.

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Posted
1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

A trade deal is already done except for the part where the other country agrees to it.

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I’ve also brokered  deal on a $12 million dollar house that I am paying $500,000 for. I just need the other side to stop being so difficult. 

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1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

A trade deal is already done except for the part where the other country agrees to it.

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russia and it's a shitty deal is my guess

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Posted
3 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, if it really is "the economy stupid" (and it is, to a degree) and Trump fucks the economy in a way that hurts people like post-Covid inflation and without the jobs and other aspects of Biden's probably best-case economy, I think 2020 is reproducible.

Yes, the base is irretrievable.  But there's a reachable or convinceable middle.

It doesn't matter if 2020 is reproducible while 2016 and 2024 are more likely models for recreation.

And like others have pointed out, you're assuming there will be actual open elections which is not really take-to-the-bank solid anymore. Remember, were at the "arresting judges for not following illegal orders" phase.

Historically speaking it's still the early 1930's in our Weimar Republic 

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5 minutes ago, Captainant said:

It doesn't matter if 2020 is reproducible while 2016 and 2024 are more likely models for recreation.

And like others have pointed out, you're assuming there will be actual open elections which is not really take-to-the-bank solid anymore. Remember, were at the "arresting judges for not following illegal orders" phase.

Historically speaking it's still the early 1930's in our Weimar Republic 

Except for the economic conditions preceding the plurality of the NSDAP. We did that but out of order. Whether purposefully or not, we’re trending that way, though. 

Posted
10 hours ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

Lulz 

 

That whole tourism thing is not going so well. We'll do better out here because we're not on the mainland and tourists from Japan, South Korea and China are still going to make it here. Tourism in the continental US? Good luck keeping your jobs in tourist areas. Should see a good amount of restaurant closures across the major tourist cities this year as well as many hotel chains taking some huge hits.

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2 minutes ago, softlynow said:

Except for the economic conditions preceding the plurality of the NSDAP. We did that but out of order. Whether purposefully or not, we’re trending that way, though. 

I said it a month or two ago - most fascist takeovers require a broken economy. Trump, ever the innovator, is making his own economic meltdown and riding on the amygdala of his base 

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9 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Historically speaking it's still the early 1930's in our Weimar Republic 

You can also picture Kim Jong-un or one of the DPRK spokespersons with every tweet or quote and it's rather unsettling with how well it fits. 100 days in.

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Posted
11 hours ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

Lulz 

 

WestJet cancels planned Austin route after ‘downward shift’ in Canada-U.S. travel demand

It’s not a good sign when an airline cuts a route just a few weeks before it’s scheduled to start. As a Canadian LCC, most of WestJet’s business is Canadian point of sale so this is an indicator that our northern neighbors aren’t as interested in coming down to visit us. 

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US trading partners raise doubts about just how far along tariff talks really are - POLITICO

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White House officials have boasted that more than a dozen countries have put offers “on the table” to avoid the biting tariffs scheduled to kick in in just over two months — a sign President Donald Trump’s risky trade gambit is paying off.

But the documents other countries have submitted to the White House are far from final offers, according to a dozen foreign diplomats and three officials, granted anonymity to discuss the sensitive conversations. Rather, they are preliminary outlines of what their governments are willing to discuss in the trade talks, something the Trump administration has made a prerequisite for pursuing any further negotiations.

Some trading partners are balking at proposing even an outline of their terms before they get more guidance from the U.S. side on what Trump is seeking from the talks.

“They are hesitant to negotiate against themselves,” said one industry official, briefed on plans by foreign countries. “If countries are setting the parameters for what the negotiations are, and not the administration with concrete asks, it’s a little bit like they’re setting themselves up.”

The tensions underscore the lingering confusion and distrust over Trump’s endgame for the so-called reciprocal tariffs he slapped on more than 60 trading partners earlier this month, before pausing all but the duties on China for 90 days. While the White House has projected confidence that the tariff threat is bringing scores of countries to the table and will result in significant new trade concessions, foreign officials privately say the discussions are much more tentative, raising questions about what kind of deals the White House can reach by its self-imposed July 8 deadline.

Even with the three-month pause on the reciprocal tariffs, the U.S. economic outlook is sinking under the weight of Trump’s existing tariffs on China, autos, steel and aluminum, raising pressure on the White House to show progress on its trade talks. In response, top advisers including Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett and U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer have all pointed to multiple “pieces of paper” they’ve received from other countries offering to cut their trade barriers to avoid the higher U.S. tariffs snapping back.

“There are pieces of paper going back and forth as countries come in and make suggestions on what they can do to have more reciprocal trade” with the U.S., Greer said on Fox News on April 11.

Trump claimed last week he has already struck 200 trade deals — more than there are recognized countries in the world. But the White House says it has sharpened its focus to “proposals on paper” from about 17 or 18 countries.

A representative for the White House declined to comment on foreign diplomats’ characterizations of those proposals.

Privately, however, White House officials acknowledge the documents they are receiving from foreign countries are really a framework for future discussions and build off a “term sheet” the administration is demanding from each country. In touting agreements about further talks, the White House is able to show progress while also buying more time for the thorny — and time-intensive — process of negotiating detailed trade deals in earnest.

A USTR official said some countries have approached the U.S. with papers detailing how they wanted to proceed, calling it a “very normal way to start negotiations.”

“Others have asked how to move forward, and we have suggested that they provide us with their ideas on paper, and we have given specific and detailed guidance on various areas where progress would be helpful,” the official said.

Even before it announced its reciprocal tariff rates on April 2, the administration began asking trading partners to lay out their priorities on tariff levels, non-tariff barriers, technology and digital trade rules and investment opportunities to serve as a framework for how negotiations would follow, according to two diplomats familiar with the request.

“The message is, ‘Who goes first gets the advantage,’” in preferential trade terms, said a person familiar with those negotiations and granted anonymity because they weren’t authorized to speak on the record.

Vice President JD Vance last week celebrated an agreement between the U.S. and India on “terms of reference” for trade talks, effectively setting the parameters to start deeper work on a deal. The White House has hinted that India will be first to ink what administration officials have described as a “memorandum of understanding” or broad “architecture” for further negotiations — which they acknowledge could take weeks or months.

“India’s coming along great. I think we’ll have a deal with India,” Trump said Tuesday afternoon before boarding Marine One for a trip to Michigan.

But some countries are raising questions about whether they can even reach that kind of general agreement at the breakneck pace Trump has mandated. Bessent on Tuesday hailed negotiating progress with South Korean officials last week, but South Korean officials have told the U.S. that it is “theoretically impossible” to reach a deal before the country holds its elections in June, according to Reuters (the country currently has a caretaker government after their former president was impeached).

A White House official confirmed the administration plans to host talks with about 18 countries over three weeks in a rotated schedule — a timeline first reported by The Wall Street Journal.

One diplomat presented with the program was dismissive of that plan: “It’s merely a timetable that no one believes. I don’t know of anyone that may be taking things more seriously.”

The administration has delivered its own, loose framework for the talks for some countries that have put proposals on paper, two diplomats presented with the plans said. One trade delegation that recently met with senior Trump officials received a “sample agreement” — a document outlining the White House’s preferred trade terms in a bid to preset potential outcomes, a person familiar with the discussions said.

And the administration appears to have drawn one red line: It will not bring down the 10 percent universal tariff imposed on April 5. A White House official confirmed that Trump’s so-called baseline tariffs are viewed by the administration as separate from negotiations over “reciprocal” tariffs.

But diplomats from a number of countries said they remain uncertain about what would be enough to appease the White House and whether it would make much of a dent in the sweeping tariff agenda Trump has imposed on nearly every country and several critical sectors.

EU officials, in particular, have said their negotiations with the U.S. remain in what one termed the “scoping” stage, as the 27-country bloc tries to pin the administration down on its demands and whether it would consider bringing down the 25 percent duties on automobiles, steel and aluminum.

The European Commission, which calls the shots for trade policy on behalf of the EU’s 27 member states, has been working with Washington on a term sheet, which would provide a framework for negotiations and include potential concessions on easing some of its regulations, lowering specific tariffs or boosting investments in energy or defense.

“To be frank, it’s still not completely clear what the U.S. really wants. They ask a very disparate number of different things,” said one European diplomat, who described the talks as in the discussion phase. “So we are still trying to figure out what are the real priorities from the U.S.”

“Europe coming up with offers would be a fucking mistake. Americans don’t want to negotiate,” said an EU diplomat. “It’s about strategic patience: let’s not push things and let [themselves] stew.”

Felicia Schwartz, Camille Gijs, Koen Verhelst and Phelim Kine contributed to this report.

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, UpperWestside said:

We'll do better out here because we're not on the mainland and tourists from Japan, South Korea and China are still going to make it here.

You're still getting fucked.  Like proper fucked.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

JFC

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At this point, anyone with an above-room-temperature IQ knows with certainty that he's a madman or a moron (or, almost certainly, BOTH).  It's not even remotely ambiguous or in doubt.  He's a fucking psycho.

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12 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

JFC

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lulz its funny in the markets thread Incredulity is seriously arguing that tariffs aren't what's put us into this position

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If the point of the tariffs is to get companies to move here and make things here...then why the fuck are we engaged in trade deals? Wouldn't signing a bunch of trade deals make that a bad move for those companies?

Wait..what am I doing? There is nothing sane or rational about any of this.

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Posted
31 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

JFC

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the only correct reply to this is FAFO
President Huff & Puff is going to spend a lot of time and effort trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube, and then telling you it was Bidens fault that there was toothpaste around to start with.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Wally Fairway said:

the only correct reply to this is FAFO
President Huff & Puff is going to spend a lot of time and effort trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube, and then telling you it was Bidens fault that there was toothpaste around to start with.

And our stupid as fuck electorate will largely buy it.  So fucking frustrating living in a country of morons. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

And our stupid as fuck electorate will largely buy it.  So fucking frustrating living in a country of morons. 

Accurate.

As the river of words flows rapidly across the smooth brain, occasionally one or two words of flotsam get caught in the lone wrinkle and stick there. BIDEN'S FAULT is just one of those phrases. Perhaps later, that one may get dislodged and replaced with something slightly longer such as LOCK HER UP.

 

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Posted (edited)

When the ports are all dead and people start to have problems buying basic goods in a month or 2, he'll still be blaming it on Biden.  It for sure doesn't have anything to do with tariffs shutting down global trade.

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53 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

And our stupid as fuck electorate will largely buy it.  So fucking frustrating living in a country of morons. 

That's because the media and big tech oligarchs are complicit. They figured out in the mid-2010s that they're shepherds and aren't going to relinquish any of that power to transform hippies into genocidal maniacs.



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