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My advice to every person reading this who is not a CEO: Be Proactive! Seek feedback about how you can be producing the value your employeer needs. Don't assume that "no news is good news". Have a bias to action in looking for ways to contribute, take on more,
and find effeciency.

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CEOs made their bed. They can lie in it. They will lay us all off as soon as look at us. 

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55 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

And if they do and succeed that is how the leadership of the world will pass from the US to China. 

It’s what I’ve been saying. Trump is too stupid to admit or even realize he is wrong because he is surrounded by yes men. No economy can feel pain better than China as they don’t give a fuck. They need to make a 200% tariff. It also doesn’t help when our VP is saying incendiary things which will just make them dig in more. 

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It's insane they aren't taking the option to get rid of him and save their wealth and power. It makes no sense at this point.


I mean, you actually have to wonder. There is definitely some unrest occurring publicly with wealthy people who previously supported Trump.

Money makes the world go ‘round and there’s only so long the elites in this country will watch their fortunes get smaller. They supported Trump with the expectation of growing those fortunes. It’s not a 1-2 week drop in stocks that scares them. It’s the idea that America is very quickly giving up our economic dominance on the global stage and those fortunes, or the systems that enabled them, may never return to the previous status quo.

Sure, a guy like Ted Cruz wants to maintain favor in the MAGA community, but guys like that also get campaign funding from sources like Big Oil. How long will they stay loyal to a president that appears to be committing economic suicide?
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4 minutes ago, wild_turkey said:

Sure, a guy like Ted Cruz wants to maintain favor in the MAGA community, but guys like that also get campaign funding from sources like Big Oil. How long will they stay loyal to a president that appears to be committing economic suicide?


Dallas Fed survey from 2 weeks ago was very bearish from O&G producers. Can only imagine where it is tonight. Bloomberg’s Odd Lots podcast probably has an update this week but I haven’t had a chance to listen. 
 

Dallas Fed Energy Survey: Uncertainty spikes in the oil patch, activity grows slightly

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25 minutes ago, wild_turkey said:

It’s the idea that America is very quickly giving up our economic dominance on the global stage and those fortunes, or the systems that enabled them, may never return to the previous status quo.

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5 hours ago, Texas Jeff said:

And another thing, right now everyone else is rooting for China to kick our ass.  The Canadians, the Mexicans, the British, the sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wastoids, dweebies, dickheads, Greenland, the penguins on that tiny island ... they all want to see China stand up to us.

Xi has orangefuck by the balls:

Gallium

Germanium

Antimony

Graphite

no C, Ga, Ge or Sb?

no DoD

checkmate

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5 hours ago, Clintonaldo said:

It’s what I’ve been saying. Trump is too stupid to admit or even realize he is wrong because he is surrounded by yes men. No economy can feel pain better than China as they don’t give a fuck. They need to make a 200% tariff. It also doesn’t help when our VP is saying incendiary things which will just make them dig in more. 

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2 hours ago, wild_turkey said:

 


I mean, you actually have to wonder. There is definitely some unrest occurring publicly with wealthy people who previously supported Trump.

Money makes the world go ‘round and there’s only so long the elites in this country will watch their fortunes get smaller. They supported Trump with the expectation of growing those fortunes. It’s not a 1-2 week drop in stocks that scares them. It’s the idea that America is very quickly giving up our economic dominance on the global stage and those fortunes, or the systems that enabled them, may never return to the previous status quo.

Sure, a guy like Ted Cruz wants to maintain favor in the MAGA community, but guys like that also get campaign funding from sources like Big Oil. How long will they stay loyal to a president that appears to be committing economic suicide?

 

The status quo ante is gone with the wind. We have fucking millions of ignorant, petulent assholes who don't understand that American consistency and reliability were major reasons why we were at the top of the world order and why the dollar is the reserve cash of choice. Even if the imbecile somehow grew a brain overnight and ended all the fuckery by dawn, that bridge is burned, for a long time if not permanently.

And don't go thinking that things will normalize when shit for brains takes his long overdue dirt nap. The problem in this regard is not Trump himself, rather it's the fact that we elected him even after knowing he was an idiot and criminal who hates liberal democracy and our allies, and that congress and scotus have failed to answer the bell because one party is a cult that worships the worst person we've ever seen in this country, and the other is chock full of pussies.

It's so fucking depressing to consider all the decades of tireless work by so many Americans to build the biggest hegemon of all time squandered in an instant because of one deeply stupid megalomaniac's inability to understand basic economics. 

 

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9 hours ago, Texas Jeff said:

All China has to do is ... do nothing.

When your competition is tossing pick sixes and fumbling pitches into their own end zone, just take the points and kick another touchback and wait.

Trump is a bully and he's doing bully things that have worked his entire life because so far everyone he's come up against has caved.

 

How this idiot has gotten away with all his soulless bullshit for so long with zero consequences to speak of despite making more enemies and inspiring more revulsion than almost anyone ever is one of the greatest mysteries of all time, and one that will never be solved.

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2 hours ago, Hookah Horns said:

How this idiot has gotten away with all his soulless bullshit for so long with zero consequences to speak of despite making more enemies and inspiring more revulsion than almost anyone ever is one of the greatest mysteries of all time, and one that will never be solved.

Trump is a unique bully who isn’t a coward of potential consequences. He basically walks into a room and punches someone, while having enough people at his back that everyone else in the room cowers and is happy they’re not the guy who was knocked out.

CEOs are afraid to publicly speak out against the tariffs because he will punish their company. Or just the potential of Trump’s vengeance would punish that company’s stock price even that much more. The exception seem to be some financial CEO perhaps since their company’s value in at least attempting to communicate real world situations.

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50 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Trump is a unique bully who isn’t a coward of potential consequences. He basically walks into a room and punches someone, while having enough people at his back that everyone else in the room cowers and is happy they’re not the guy who was knocked out.

CEOs are afraid to publicly speak out against the tariffs because he will punish their company. Or just the potential of Trump’s vengeance would punish that company’s stock price even that much more. The exception seem to be some financial CEO perhaps since their company’s value in at least attempting to communicate real world situations.

That's how some of the big law firms thought, which was stupid. Band together and stand up to him. Trump doesn't want that smoke. 

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8 hours ago, wild_turkey said:

Sure, a guy like Ted Cruz wants to maintain favor in the MAGA community, but guys like that also get campaign funding from sources like Big Oil. How long will they stay loyal to a president that appears to be committing economic suicide?

This is where the rubber might actually hit the road.  Trump for now controls the GOP funding apparatus and had guys like Musk and Thiel that can threaten to money-whip a primary opponent.

But if others pull their contributions from the GOP apparatus, and redirect funds, they can counter that and Trump's stranglehold on the GOP may slip a bit, or even a lot.

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1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Trump is a unique bully who isn’t a coward of potential consequences. He basically walks into a room and punches someone, while having enough people at his back that everyone else in the room cowers and is happy they’re not the guy who was knocked out.

CEOs are afraid to publicly speak out against the tariffs because he will punish their company. Or just the potential of Trump’s vengeance would punish that company’s stock price even that much more. The exception seem to be some financial CEO perhaps since their company’s value in at least attempting to communicate real world situations.

I think more than being unafraid of consequences, he's too stupid and self-obsessed to foresee consequences.

Also, that bit that bolverk posted about him controlling the media, but not wholly the public, may be spot on.

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21 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

Not a coincidence that China is making this statement after the close of their markets but before ours open. Trumps biggest weakness here is short term pain. When white collar Trump supporters see their 401k drop by 25-30%, they will not be fans.

just as Trump says that short term pain is needed for long term prosperity, Dems could think of the same but the long term is getting rid of maga.

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9 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

This is where the rubber might actually hit the road.  Trump for now controls the GOP funding apparatus and had guys like Musk and Thiel that can threaten to money-whip a primary opponent.

But if others pull their contributions from the GOP apparatus, and redirect funds, they can counter that and Trump's stranglehold on the GOP may slip a bit, or even a lot.

/I wanna believe/ gif

That's a pipedream, imo. 

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Is there much (any?) proof that countries are actually calling Trump to negotiate? I know he and his staff are saying so, but I’ve noticed that they don’t mention country names which is what you would expect of Trump. Of course if he says Australia is calling me, they would be an immediate denial from Australia if it’s not true.

I think I’ve heard Vietnam and Israel as the only countries as being mentioned in proactively agreeing to lower their tariffs on the US. Does Vietnam really buy much from us?

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1 minute ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Is there much (any?) proof that countries are actually calling Trump to negotiate? I know he and his staff are saying so, but I’ve noticed that they don’t mention country names which is what you would expect of Trump. Of course if he says Australia is calling me, they would be an immediate denial from Australia if it’s not true.

I think I’ve heard Vietnam and Israel as the only countries as being mentioned in proactively agreeing to lower their tariffs on the US. Does Vietnam really buy much from us?

His lips were moving.  What does that tell you?

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If I were the rest of the world, save tariff free Russia, I would work to convince my corporations to continue to manufacture goods for the US and keep paying employees. Sell what you can to America and warehouse the rest. Perhaps their govt could offer short term loans or punish those who don’t.

who will blink first, countries like China who have previously starved their citizens or Americans who reject self sacrifice. Many maga voters would revolt if the Masked Singer is delayed 5 minutes due to an emergency weather broadcast, much less if store shelves are empty/double the normal price.

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13 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Is there much (any?) proof that countries are actually calling Trump to negotiate? I know he and his staff are saying so, but I’ve noticed that they don’t mention country names which is what you would expect of Trump. Of course if he says Australia is calling me, they would be an immediate denial from Australia if it’s not true.

I think I’ve heard Vietnam and Israel as the only countries as being mentioned in proactively agreeing to lower their tariffs on the US. Does Vietnam really buy much from us?

He used a "sir" story last night so you know it's legit lol 

 

https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1909767212917047789?s=42

 

 

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1 minute ago, 6th Street said:

He used a "sir" story last night so you know it's legit lol 

 

https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1909767212917047789?s=42

 

 

There’s also been noise from the Trump camp that those who negotiate first will get the best deals, and those who wait, won’t. Classic used car sales tactic to create fomo. It’s easy to see how Russia and China run circles around the Trump WH with “deals.”

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10 hours ago, Hookah Horns said:

Ahh...a Sir story. Scientific proof that nobody's called. 

From the authors who bring you “aggy Kyle Field fan fiction” comes the exciting new series “global leaders who called to kiss Trump’s ass”. Coming soon on audible. 

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24 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

/I wanna believe/ gif

That's a pipedream, imo. 

Well, I think it's accurate that the fear that Trump generates stems from two things:  1) his ability to deliver "the base;" and 2) more recently, his threats/ability to financially oppose through Musk and the funding apparatus.

But 1) has been kind of hit and miss; a lot of Trump candidates have failed miserably even in red districts, but 2) remains a problem for those who buck the orange God.

I am fairly stunned, though, by the law firms' anticipatory capitulation to something that is so clearly unlawful.

As shocking as Trump's 2024 victory was, it was relatively narrow and likely based on "the economy stupid."  So, I think it may be easily squandered.

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2 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Trump is a unique bully who isn’t a coward of potential consequences. He basically walks into a room and punches someone, while having enough people at his back that everyone else in the room cowers and is happy they’re not the guy who was knocked out.

CEOs are afraid to publicly speak out against the tariffs because he will punish their company. Or just the potential of Trump’s vengeance would punish that company’s stock price even that much more. The exception seem to be some financial CEO perhaps since their company’s value in at least attempting to communicate real world situations.

The only way to get """business leaders""" to change their minds is to have a multi-million dollar consulting contract tell you what you should think. So fuckin many of the executives I work with don't know their ass from their elbow and are just cravenly cashing checks and blindly co-signing whatever dumb shit OW or Deloitte are pushing this year. Nevermind that it's just a turn around from the previous direction, which was a turn around from the one prior.

They don't know their business, they just know how to dance for the stock market so they'll get their quarterly bonus before they jump ship to the next host for their parasitic existence

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29 minutes ago, BrazilHorn said:

From the authors who bring you “aggy Kyle Field fan fiction” comes the exciting new series “global leaders who called to kiss Trump’s ass”. Coming soon on audible. 

After these leaders got off their plane, they came up to me and said "Mr Republican, sir, I have a meeting at the White House. Can you give me directions? As soon as I got off the plane I tried to ask a Democrat but he spit on me and pushed my grandma out of her wheelchair."

And I said "Yeah, you can't trust a d-sip (teehee) to be anything but an evil satanic scoundrel. Just go right up Pennsylvania Ave. You can't miss it." And he says "Sir, these big beautiful directions will take me to your Dear Leader where we will save the World. I will be a fan of the Fightin Murican Republicans for life! Whoop!"

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So let me get this straight, that new formula to calculate tariffs has an exclusion for Russia. Good to know that Boss Putin already said no. Now I want someone to explain to me how sometime high up in our government isn't his bitch?

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Maybe a dumb question because it’s part of international relations and economics I’ve never understood, but if China really holds a big chunk of our national debt, could they call it just to fuck with dotard? Can they not so long Congress appropriates interest payments? If we did default or if they called it how could China ever force payment? Sheriff sale Florida?

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1 minute ago, 'stache said:

Maybe a dumb question because it’s part of international relations and economics I’ve never understood, but if China really holds a big chunk of our national debt, could they call it just to fuck with dotard? Can they not so long Congress anppropriayes interest payments? If we did default or if they called it how could China ever force payment? Sheriff sale Florida?

Turn those machines back on!

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Another question, since every country is going to suffer anyway, could they just bite the bullet and stop exports to the US entirely? Might be fun for dotard and his cult to learn how much we rely on imports when the shelves are emptier than during Covid.

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12 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Maybe a dumb question because it’s part of international relations and economics I’ve never understood, but if China really holds a big chunk of our national debt, could they call it just to fuck with dotard? Can they not so long Congress appropriates interest payments? If we did default or if they called it how could China ever force payment? Sheriff sale Florida?

China holds a big chunk of treasury securities

It's not like a bank holding your debt and threatening to foreclose on your house

e: I guess "securities" instead of bonds is a better word idk

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13 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Maybe a dumb question because it’s part of international relations and economics I’ve never understood, but if China really holds a big chunk of our national debt, could they call it just to fuck with dotard? Can they not so long Congress appropriates interest payments? If we did default or if they called it how could China ever force payment? Sheriff sale Florida?

depends what you call a big chunk, it's roughly 2.2% (7-800B) Significant because of size but not really percentage.  They have been selling off yearly for years now at roughly $50-200B a year.

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I hope they stick to their guns and think that if they win it’ll get Americans to turn on Trump. I mean they’d be wrong and he’ll stay in power forever because the voting majority are full blown shitheads but at least the country will suffer which we deserve because fuck us.

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18 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

 

 

This might be a hot take, but China might have the right idea when it comes to suppressing propaganda, demonstrably false reporting, and fringe extremism. Look at where Fox News and the AM radio radicals have taken us.

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160 years ago today Lee surrendered to Grant at Appomattox court house. Republican president Abraham Lincoln guided the north to victory in the civil war and soon after freed the slaves.
 

Today 34 time felon, convicted rapist, insurrectionist leader, and known fraudster, Donald Trump, single handedly leads America and the world into a recession and tweets the following:

 

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4 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

This might be a hot take, but China might have the right idea when it comes to suppressing propaganda, demonstrably false reporting, and fringe extremism. Look at where Fox News and the AM radio radicals have taken us.

Not really because they suppress everything true or false, but I’ll agree that their government propaganda likely includes more objective facts on average than what Fox News et al have spoon fed the uneducated idiots of this country for the last few decades. 

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