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As of September 2024, there were ~420k undetained convicted criminal illegal aliens, and ~220k charged but not yet adjudicated. Not a whole lot of people are going to complain loudly about deporting the vast majority of those individuals. Start including unrelated "collateral" and it is going to get very messy very quick. If they are picking up criminal aliens at places of work, the employer should get hit with very a large and painful penalty.  

Is that the number that includes all of those incarcerated in US prisons? A LOT of people don’t want them deported until their sentences have been served.
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I mean, if I were mean I would have asked him all kinds of questions about his russian mail order bride, who he spent 15 or so years on these boards castigating as ruining his life, and how he felt about the fact that his children are anchor babies who's citizenship could be in threat becuase his wife was an immigrant. Or how he thought a few months ago he was going to fucking die, and has miraculously had a huge improvement in his health, encouraged by myself and many others who could be "liberal cucks" and the only lesson he seems to have taken from that situation is to continue to fuel hate and anger and blame the woes in his life on immigrants, who actually provide taxes to his precious social security funds, not that he understands that, and ignoring placing any blame on a skyrocketing national debt on policies he inevitably voted into office. 
 
Personal accountability is dead in this country. 

I miss hanging out with you, man. But this post made me miss you even more.

As for spanky, reading this thread and his comments, had me thinking that, the dude is just a dyed in the wool troll, just like those in the past. But now, after reading what you just said, and checking tape, he really is just that stupid. His constant need to come back pushes me toward thinking narcissist/sociopath. I’m not correct on a metric fuckton of my thinking, but I have been dead to rights on that diagnosis, historically.
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So of the 440k, 90k are violent.   And pardon my ignorance on non-citizen or criminal procedure in general, but how are there 13k that have been convicted of homicide but not detained? 

I’m way behind this thread, so this has likely been answered, but they are in prison. “Detained” means that there is an ICE hold on them.
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3 minutes ago, Homesickhorn said:


I miss hanging out with you, man. But this post made me miss you even more.

As for spanky, reading this thread and his comments, had me thinking that, the dude is just a dyed in the wool troll, just like those in the past. But now, after reading what you just said, and checking tape, he really is just that stupid. His constant need to come back pushes me toward thinking narcissist/sociopath. I’m not correct on a metric fuckton of my thinking, but I have been dead to rights on that diagnosis, historically.

Miss you too buddy. 

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21 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Yes. That is very misleading. Everybody would think that means they are out in the general population someplace who read that.

That’s certainly the way @Anastasis made it sound.  Or maybe I just completely misunderstood (which is probably 50/50)

So how many expected convicted or charged illegal immigrants are there?  Clearly it isnt 440,000 like was touted.  

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5 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

I care to the extent I don't anyone to die, or suffer, nor do I want their families and children to suffer. Contrary to my general demeanor on this board of assholes, I actually want people to be healthy, happy, and prosperous. If crossed a line of sharing between forums, I legitimately apologize. It's kind of difficult when you've been doing this board thing for decades to remember where exactly you read something, and the context from which it was given. I'm sorry. 

You should not be apologizing to this dork. He’s throwing shit at the wall. 

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8 hours ago, C-Man said:

Learned this AM that my in-laws' illegally-here-for-25+-years maid suffered a stroke last night and is at Presbyterian Hospital. Wondering how that will ultimately shake out.

When they asked my wife and I, "Did you hear what happened to Myrna last night?" we both expected the next words to be, "She was picked up and is being deported." 

 

"Investigating"? He'll be back on the job by next week. That dog will hunt in Tarrant County.

You do NOT pass the stoned test.  

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10 hours ago, Spankytoes said:

Suck my dick. I posted in response to @SydneyCarton assertion that I’ve “magically gotten better”. I’m currently hooked up to a goddam machine typing on an iPad with one finger. I’m not dodging anything, I don’t have the time to respond right now. (At least not in a timely manner) Especially on this topic where my response really doesn’t matter in furthering the “discussion” any. No link, research or wall of text is going to change that.

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For the record, Quakers were ready to fight back against the fascists.

”Quaker groups sued on Monday to prevent U.S. immigration agents from carrying arrests and searches in houses of worship, after the Trump Administration rescinded guidance that protected churches and schools from his mass deportation campaign.”

https://www.reuters.com/legal/quakers-sue-keep-us-immigration-agents-out-houses-worship-2025-01-27/

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12 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

 

"We're just not hurting enough brown people.  We're making progress, but I know we can do so much more if we all pull together and ruin as many of their lives as possible.  And soon enough, with Jesus and Trump on our side, we will have our Final Solution to the Brown Question.  Was I not supposed to say that last part yet?"

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48 minutes ago, DaysOff said:


He'll never be as good of a deporter as Obama. Sad cry.

Will our free press ask the latest blonde Christian why we're spending 800k per military flight as opposed to 100k for a commercial flight since we care about government efficiency?

Spirit is in bankruptcy. Throw them some government cheese with deportation charters and help save some American jobs.

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20 hours ago, Spankytoes said:

I’ll respond to this because I actually respect you.


The short of it is that it’s more complex than that. Yes, I concede that some undocumented immigrants pay taxes for programs that they will never benefit from. What I fail to understand is why would they ever get to benefit from them if they shouldn’t be here in the first place? They broke the law. You don’t get rewarded for it because you’re one of the good criminals that contributes. You don’t get to pass GO the minute you decided that your personal situation warrants bypassing the legal procedure. You aren’t entitled to live here as a foreigner. There is a process and you knowingly flipped it off. I personally have a problem with that having sponsored 5 people from Russia in my own home that waited their turn and did it the right way.

Additionally:

1. I’d argue that the vast majority of undocumented immigrants don’t receive paychecks, but cash under the table, therefore negating the payment of any taxes. There is no way for either of us to prove or disprove this;

2. I’d also argue that this that pay taxes with a fake Social Security are committing yet another crime that they shouldn’t be allowed to benefit from. Especially in our world of terrorism where our country is trying to keep its citizens safe. I’m a white American born citizen that doesn’t break the law and I still have to identify myself;

3. The cost of other services rendered far outweighs what is being collected by a worker in that wage bracket. That can range from medical costs to schooling to housing any criminal elements. We may make 100 billion in taxes but it costs us 10X that, all things considered.

Thats basically all I’m going to say on it unless something needs to be clarified.

Undocumented immigrants are the people who clean your homes, mow your yards -- shit like that. The ones who do pay legit taxes vastly outnumber these people. The undocumented people who are working for construction companies, or large produce companies or Tyson Chicken -- legit, big businesses are absolutely paying taxes. Because the big companies want to be able to report all that payroll to the gubmint.

This is why the immigration thing is such political bullshit. Yes, get the bad seeds out and try and keep them out. I think everybody would agree with that. The ones that are here -- whether they're pursuing a citizenship track or not, if they're paying taxes (payroll, property, etc) who gives a fuck. These people are necessary to work in the companies mentioned above, the way our economy is currently set up. They need to work restaurant jobs, industrial jobs, all kinds of the 'shit' jobs Americans will not consider doing. Or we are all going to start seeing a massive uptick in the cost of ALL the things we consume on a daily basis.

Until the big companies (and rich fuckers) want to increase minimum wage and offer more benefits for these lower level positions, Americans will NOT work these jobs. Somebody has to, so enter the immigrant population. I guess being shit on in the USA is better than getting diarrhea-ed on in El Salvador. Or something like that.

But big corporations that rely on the cheap labor the immigrants provide are not going to let true immigration drawdowns actually be successful. They can't.

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20 hours ago, Spankytoes said:

1. I’d argue that the vast majority of undocumented immigrants don’t receive paychecks, but cash under the table, therefore negating the payment of any taxes. There is no way for either of us to prove or disprove this;

 

The ones who fall into this category are agricultural workers who sneak across the border to work and then take their cash back home to Mexico. It's a sizeable group but I'd argue it's not the "vast majority."

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21 hours ago, Spankytoes said:

1. I’d argue that the vast majority of undocumented immigrants don’t receive paychecks, but cash under the table, therefore negating the payment of any taxes. There is no way for either of us to prove or disprove this;

Yes if only there were some way to measure how much undocumented workers contribute in taxes 

 

oh wait

 

What’s that you say? Almost 100 B per year? That’s a whole lot of dialysis

 

eta do you know how fucking hard it is to get cash out of a legitimate business without showing the govt where it’s going and what it’s for? My CPA gives me shit about anything more than $100

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21 hours ago, Dahobbs said:

But will you continue to receive dialysis after that sweet sweet immigrant FICA money dries up?  I'm all for fucking around and finding out for as many idiots as possible. That's how much I care. 

 

better question is will he continue to receive dialysis after Medicade and Medicare are cut?

 

 

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15 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

i apologize to spanky publically for lashing out

i lost it this afternoon

i am sorry

At least you apologized publicly to save face on the board. I’ve received nothing privately, which a real man would have been compelled to do, were he sincere. 
 

Good luck being stressed as a person in America! Let us know if there is a GoFundMe page.

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Daughter just texted that ICE will be on campus (public HS) today. Apparently parents of some of the students are being deported 

1 minute ago, Spankytoes said:

At least you apologized publicly to save face on the board. I’ve received nothing privately, which a real man would have been compelled to do, were he sincere. 
 

Good luck being stressed as a person in America!

Here's a public fuck you. Check your inbox deadbeat

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19 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

better question is will he continue to receive dialysis after Medicade and Medicare are cut?

 

 

Yes. I have both private insurance and Medicare. I’m 46 so IDGAF about immediate Medicare realities. There is too much time between now and then to be comfortable or anxious about it. Plus, I have measures in place for protection like any sane person /Rocko

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1 minute ago, Spankytoes said:

Yes. I have both private insurance and Medicare. I’m 46 so IDGAF about immediate Medicare realities. There is too much time between now and then to be comfortable or anxious about it. Plus, I have measures in place for protection like any sane person /Rocko

No you don't have protections.  You have Medicare and SSI. That's in jeopardy. And you have private insurance only until your orange turd god can figure out a way to repeal the ACA. Then you will be fucked by lifetime limits and be a slave to your wife's ability to maintain her insurance through her job (and pray she doesn't dump you). 

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6 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

No you don't have protections.  You have Medicare and SSI. That's in jeopardy. And you have private insurance only until your orange turd god can figure out a way to repeal the ACA. Then you will be fucked by lifetime limits and be a slave to your wife's ability to maintain her insurance through her job (and pray she doesn't dump you). 

Or I have a trust fund and the ability to travel anywhere in the world for less than you pay for a tank of gas, including Asia, should I need medical care

You don’t know shit about me.

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1 minute ago, Spankytoes said:

Or I have a trust fund and the ability to travel anywhere in the world for less than you pay for a tank of gas, including Asia, should I need medical care

sure you do. I have lots of trust fund patients that are on SSI and MC

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25 minutes ago, Spankytoes said:

At least you apologized publicly to save face on the board. I’ve received nothing privately, which a real man would have been compelled to do, were he sincere. 
 

Good luck being stressed as a person in America! Let us know if there is a GoFundMe page.

Lol wtf? He apologizes via DM and you probably come out here “this lib pussy didn’t have the balls to come back to the thread and blah blah blah”

 

here’s another public fuck you 

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26 minutes ago, Spankytoes said:

At least you apologized publicly to save face on the board. I’ve received nothing privately, which a real man would have been compelled to do, were he sincere. 
 

Good luck being stressed as a person in America! Let us know if there is a GoFundMe page.

You're a bitch. 

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