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I tried to explain, over and over again, the fiscal situation. This was a couple of years ago.

I looked at debt to the penny for 1 OCT 2023, then compared in with the same number for 1 OCT 2024. Then I looked up federal spending in fiscal 2024. I calculated a deficit of 8.2%. You can replicate that calculation, some of you, but not most. 40% of every dollar of federal spending is borrowed.

These aren't even RIFs. RIFs are coming. The money doesn't exist to pay those salaries. 20% is of federal spending interest expense, which cannot be cut.  In order to balance the budget we have to cut around 50% of all noninterest spending.

Once we hit a recession, the deficit will blow out to $5 trillion. No one will finance our deficits. The dollar will crumble. Inflation explodes.

The leftists here decided they didn't love their children enough to care about all of that. The crisis was avoidable, were it not for people like you. All you had to do was balance the budget. Stop believing the lie.

I wish the best to all of you. Prepare for what is coming or don't. Your track record so far isn't great. 

 

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16 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

I tried to explain, over and over again, the fiscal situation. This was a couple of years ago.

I looked at debt to the penny for 1 OCT 2023, then compared in with the same number for 1 OCT 2024. Then I looked up federal spending in fiscal 2024. I calculated a deficit of 8.2%. You can replicate that calculation, some of you, but not most. 40% of every dollar of federal spending is borrowed.

These aren't even RIFs. RIFs are coming. The money doesn't exist to pay those salaries. 20% is of federal spending interest expense, which cannot be cut.  In order to balance the budget we have to cut around 50% of all noninterest spending.

Once we hit a recession, the deficit will blow out to $5 trillion. No one will finance our deficits. The dollar will crumble. Inflation explodes.

The leftists here decided they didn't love their children enough to care about all of that. The crisis was avoidable, were it not for people like you. All you had to do was balance the budget. Stop believing the lie.

I wish the best to all of you. Prepare for what is coming or don't. Your track record so far isn't great. 

 

Dems, like me, have been screaming about the deficit, and the need to cut military spending, and reverse the insanity of cutting taxes on the wealthiest citizens. 
 

How did the USA pay for the debt incurred saving Europe from fascism?

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On 1/28/2025 at 6:46 PM, Valmy77 said:

The arbitrariness of this seems idiotic. How can they prevent really important personnel from taking the offer and less important ones hanging around? Surely a scheme like this should be more targeted.

In the past I would have assumed I just didn't know the details and surely more thought was put into this behind the scenes...but these days who can say?

Because they don't give a fuck.  Actual job performance means nothing if it doesn't toe the MAGA line.  There's no guarantee, and an absolute likelihood, that MAGA replacements will suck shit through a straw, and also orange man's crank.

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wait...surly 'leftists' are responsible for the federal budget not being balanced?? i mean i know we're part of the biggest NIL collective and the largest political forum in Texas, but i had no idea we had that kind of power and influence 😮 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Thetexashammer said:

I tried to explain, over and over again, the fiscal situation. This was a couple of years ago.

I looked at debt to the penny for 1 OCT 2023, then compared in with the same number for 1 OCT 2024. Then I looked up federal spending in fiscal 2024. I calculated a deficit of 8.2%. You can replicate that calculation, some of you, but not most. 40% of every dollar of federal spending is borrowed.

These aren't even RIFs. RIFs are coming. The money doesn't exist to pay those salaries. 20% is of federal spending interest expense, which cannot be cut.  In order to balance the budget we have to cut around 50% of all noninterest spending.

Once we hit a recession, the deficit will blow out to $5 trillion. No one will finance our deficits. The dollar will crumble. Inflation explodes.

The leftists here decided they didn't love their children enough to care about all of that. The crisis was avoidable, were it not for people like you. All you had to do was balance the budget. Stop believing the lie.

I wish the best to all of you. Prepare for what is coming or don't. Your track record so far isn't great. 

 

So surely you advocate for holding tax rates at least steady if not increasing them to help pay down this debt right? 

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5 hours ago, Thetexashammer said:

I tried to explain, over and over again, the fiscal situation. This was a couple of years ago.

I looked at debt to the penny for 1 OCT 2023, then compared in with the same number for 1 OCT 2024. Then I looked up federal spending in fiscal 2024. I calculated a deficit of 8.2%. You can replicate that calculation, some of you, but not most. 40% of every dollar of federal spending is borrowed.

These aren't even RIFs. RIFs are coming. The money doesn't exist to pay those salaries. 20% is of federal spending interest expense, which cannot be cut.  In order to balance the budget we have to cut around 50% of all noninterest spending.

Once we hit a recession, the deficit will blow out to $5 trillion. No one will finance our deficits. The dollar will crumble. Inflation explodes.

The leftists here decided they didn't love their children enough to care about all of that. The crisis was avoidable, were it not for people like you. All you had to do was balance the budget. Stop believing the lie.

I wish the best to all of you. Prepare for what is coming or don't. Your track record so far isn't great. 

 

 

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4 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Because they don't give a fuck.  Actual job performance means nothing if it doesn't toe the MAGA line.  There's no guarantee, and an absolute likelihood, that MAGA replacements will suck shit through a straw, and also orange man's crank.

Relevant:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/01/31/elon-musk-treasury-department-payment-systems/
 

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The highest-ranking career official at the Treasury Department is departing after a clash with allies of billionaire Elon Musk over access to sensitive payment systems, according to three people with knowledge of the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private talks.

David A. Lebryk, who served in nonpolitical roles at Treasury for several decades, is expected to leave the agency soon, the people said. President Donald Trump named Lebryk as acting secretary upon taking office last week. Lebryk had a dispute with Musk’s surrogates over access to the payment system the U.S. government uses to disburse trillions of dollars every year, the people said. The exact nature of the disagreement was not immediately clear, they said.

Officials affiliated with Musk’s “Department of Government Efficiency” have been asking since after the election for access to the system, the people said — requests that were reiterated more recently, including after Trump’s inauguration.

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Typically only a small number of career officials control Treasury’s payment systems. Run by the Bureau of the Fiscal Service, the sensitive systems control the flow of more than $6 trillion annually to households, businesses and more nationwide. Tens, if not hundreds, of millions of people across the country rely on the systems, which are responsible for distributing Social Security and Medicare benefits, salaries for federal personnel, payments to government contractors and grant recipients and tax refunds, among tens of thousands of other functions.

The clash reflects an intensifying battle between Musk and the federal bureaucracy as the Trump administration nears the conclusion of its second week. Musk has sought to exert sweeping control over the inner workings of the U.S. government, installing longtime surrogates at several agencies, including the Office of Personnel Management, which essentially handles federal human resources, and the General Services Administration, which manages real estate. (Musk was seen on Thursday visiting GSA, according to two other people familiar with his whereabouts, who also spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe internal matters. That visit was first reported by the New York Times.) His Department of Government Efficiency, originally conceived as a nongovernmental panel, has since replaced the U.S. Digital Service.

The executive order Trump signed creating DOGE also instructed all agencies to ensure it has “full and prompt access to all unclassified agency records, software systems, and IT systems,” which would appear to include the Treasury payment systems.

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It is unclear precisely why Musk’s team sought access to those systems. But both Musk and the Trump administration more broadly have sought to control spending in ways that far exceed efforts by their predecessors and have alarmed legal experts.

On Monday, the White House Office of Management and Budget ordered a freeze on all federal grant spending — an order it rescinded two days later amid intense political backlash and multiple lawsuits over the consequences of that decision.

Musk has characterized the rising national debt as an existential threat to the country and has proved willing to break norms in service of sweeping change.

Still, the possibility that government officials might try to use the federal payments system — which essentially functions as the nation’s “checking book” — to enact a political agenda is unprecedented, said Mark Mazur, who served in senior treasury roles during the Obama and Biden administrations.

“This is a mechanical job — they pay Social Security benefits, they pay vendors, whatever. It’s not one where there’s a role for nonmechanical things, at least from the career standpoint. Your whole job is to pay the bills as they’re due,” Mazur said. “It’s never been used in a way to execute a partisan agenda. … You have to really put bad intentions in place for that to be the case.”

In the 2023 fiscal year, the payment systems processed nearly 1.3 billion payments, accounting for about $5.4 trillion, nearly 97 percent made electronically, according to the Treasury Department. Every payment was made on time.

Lebryk’s departure is expected to be a shock to Treasury personnel, among whom he enjoys a sterling reputation. The lifelong bureaucrat joined the department as an intern in 1989 and spent three decades at the agency under 11 different treasury secretaries, serving as acting director of the U.S. Mint and commissioner of the Bureau of the Fiscal Service, among other roles.

Michael Faulkender, whom Trump nominated as deputy U.S. treasury secretary in December, praised Lebryk’s work in 2023.

“I could not, to this day, tell you his politics,” Faulkender, who served as an assistant secretary at Treasury during Trump’s first term, told The Washington Post at the time. “He always seemed to be relaxed and under control.”

 

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8 hours ago, Thetexashammer said:

I tried to explain, over and over again, the fiscal situation. This was a couple of years ago.

I looked at debt to the penny for 1 OCT 2023, then compared in with the same number for 1 OCT 2024. Then I looked up federal spending in fiscal 2024. I calculated a deficit of 8.2%. You can replicate that calculation, some of you, but not most. 40% of every dollar of federal spending is borrowed.

These aren't even RIFs. RIFs are coming. The money doesn't exist to pay those salaries. 20% is of federal spending interest expense, which cannot be cut.  In order to balance the budget we have to cut around 50% of all noninterest spending.

Once we hit a recession, the deficit will blow out to $5 trillion. No one will finance our deficits. The dollar will crumble. Inflation explodes.

The leftists here decided they didn't love their children enough to care about all of that. The crisis was avoidable, were it not for people like you. All you had to do was balance the budget. Stop believing the lie.

I wish the best to all of you. Prepare for what is coming or don't. Your track record so far isn't great. 

 

Don't let the facts get in your way!

 

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8 hours ago, Thetexashammer said:

I tried to explain, over and over again, the fiscal situation. This was a couple of years ago.

I looked at debt to the penny for 1 OCT 2023, then compared in with the same number for 1 OCT 2024. Then I looked up federal spending in fiscal 2024. I calculated a deficit of 8.2%. You can replicate that calculation, some of you, but not most. 40% of every dollar of federal spending is borrowed.

These aren't even RIFs. RIFs are coming. The money doesn't exist to pay those salaries. 20% is of federal spending interest expense, which cannot be cut.  In order to balance the budget we have to cut around 50% of all noninterest spending.

Once we hit a recession, the deficit will blow out to $5 trillion. No one will finance our deficits. The dollar will crumble. Inflation explodes.

The leftists here decided they didn't love their children enough to care about all of that. The crisis was avoidable, were it not for people like you. All you had to do was balance the budget. Stop believing the lie.

I wish the best to all of you. Prepare for what is coming or don't. Your track record so far isn't great. 

 

Obviously the solution to that is to cause another recession as soon as possible! But also, like, we were just in a recession not too long ago? Why didn't the dollar collapse then?

Anyway, it will be really funny when your parade of horribles come true because of the person and policies you voted for. Such self-ownage is truly impressive. 

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crossposting from DT, but it's such horseshit the 6% figure is what's leading the conversation. It's bullshit.

That "only 6% come in full time" is a tortured statistic. It originated from this report

https://www.ernst.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/6_update.pdf

Which in turn sourced its "6%" figure from a non-scientific survey conducted by Federal News Network

https://federalnewsnetwork.com/federal-report/2024/04/survey-feds-question-the-why-behind-return-to-office-push/?readmore=1

Nevermind that the actual originating peice of this mythical and bullshit figure that's repeated mindlessly by useful idiots is rejected as soon as it's introduced in the article!

Of the survey respondents, about 30% said they work entirely remotely, 6% work entirely in-person and 64% were working on a hybrid schedule — a mix of in-person work and telework. The breakdown of telework versus onsite work for survey respondents differs significantly from the actual breakdown for the federal workforce overall. According to the latest data from the Office of Management and Budget, out of 2.2 million federal employees, 54% hold jobs that require them to work completely onsite, while the 46% of feds who are eligible for telework spend an average of 60% of their work hours in-person. Just 10% of feds work remotely.

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crossposting from DT, but it's such horseshit the 6% figure is what's leading the conversation. It's bullshit.

That "only 6% come in full time" is a tortured statistic. It originated from this report

https://www.ernst.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/6_update.pdf

Which in turn sourced its "6%" figure from a non-scientific survey conducted by Federal News Network

https://federalnewsnetwork.com/federal-report/2024/04/survey-feds-question-the-why-behind-return-to-office-push/?readmore=1

Nevermind that the actual originating peice of this mythical and bullshit figure that's repeated mindlessly by useful idiots is rejected as soon as it's introduced in the article!

Of the survey respondents, about 30% said they work entirely remotely, 6% work entirely in-person and 64% were working on a hybrid schedule — a mix of in-person work and telework. The breakdown of telework versus onsite work for survey respondents differs significantly from the actual breakdown for the federal workforce overall. According to the latest data from the Office of Management and Budget, out of 2.2 million federal employees, 54% hold jobs that require them to work completely onsite, while the 46% of feds who are eligible for telework spend an average of 60% of their work hours in-person. Just 10% of feds work remotely.


Federal Network? Would you like to know more?
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3 hours ago, TexArcher said:

Literal LOL at patting yourself on the back for blaming the deficit/debt on the left. 

Holy shit.

 

not just any leftists...

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all surly had to do is balance the budget! dammit.

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10 hours ago, Thetexashammer said:

I tried to explain, over and over again, the fiscal situation. This was a couple of years ago.

I looked at debt to the penny for 1 OCT 2023, then compared in with the same number for 1 OCT 2024. Then I looked up federal spending in fiscal 2024. I calculated a deficit of 8.2%. You can replicate that calculation, some of you, but not most. 40% of every dollar of federal spending is borrowed.

These aren't even RIFs. RIFs are coming. The money doesn't exist to pay those salaries. 20% is of federal spending interest expense, which cannot be cut.  In order to balance the budget we have to cut around 50% of all noninterest spending.

Once we hit a recession, the deficit will blow out to $5 trillion. No one will finance our deficits. The dollar will crumble. Inflation explodes.

The leftists here decided they didn't love their children enough to care about all of that. The crisis was avoidable, were it not for people like you. All you had to do was balance the budget. Stop believing the lie.

I wish the best to all of you. Prepare for what is coming or don't. Your track record so far isn't great. 

 

Cracking Up Lol GIF by HULU

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10 hours ago, Thetexashammer said:

I tried to explain, over and over again, the fiscal situation. This was a couple of years ago.

I looked at debt to the penny for 1 OCT 2023, then compared in with the same number for 1 OCT 2024. Then I looked up federal spending in fiscal 2024. I calculated a deficit of 8.2%. You can replicate that calculation, some of you, but not most. 40% of every dollar of federal spending is borrowed.

These aren't even RIFs. RIFs are coming. The money doesn't exist to pay those salaries. 20% is of federal spending interest expense, which cannot be cut.  In order to balance the budget we have to cut around 50% of all noninterest spending.

Once we hit a recession, the deficit will blow out to $5 trillion. No one will finance our deficits. The dollar will crumble. Inflation explodes.

The leftists here decided they didn't love their children enough to care about all of that. The crisis was avoidable, were it not for people like you. All you had to do was balance the budget. Stop believing the lie.

I wish the best to all of you. Prepare for what is coming or don't. Your track record so far isn't great. 

 

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2 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

The federal government is basically a huge insurance company with a bloated military attached to it. But sure, we'll solve the debt by firing some VA nurses.

I think the military is actually a big part of the insurance as well (e.g. MAD, Show of force to maintain peace, etc.).

I get the desire to cut federal spending and deficits but cutting into the military and military capabilities I think should be the last place to cut-- especially as we are entering into a season of potentially more hot conflicts and countries are re-entrenching around domestic and international partnerships both economically and militarily. 

That said I do wonder if there is a way to cut the fat from the old way and processes of legacy DoD, considering warfare is becoming a lot more digital and autonomous and technical (and cheaply dispensable). Been reading some interesting interviews from founders of Palantir and Anduril and other strategy setters and makers of lethal warfare and it sounds like the new era of war could be upon us in earnest in a paradigm shift not seen since the jump from trench warfare. 

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5 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Relevant:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/01/31/elon-musk-treasury-department-payment-systems/
 

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Typically only a small number of career officials control Treasury’s payment systems. Run by the Bureau of the Fiscal Service, the sensitive systems control the flow of more than $6 trillion annually to households, businesses and more nationwide. Tens, if not hundreds, of millions of people across the country rely on the systems, which are responsible for distributing Social Security and Medicare benefits, salaries for federal personnel, payments to government contractors and grant recipients and tax refunds, among tens of thousands of other functions.

The clash reflects an intensifying battle between Musk and the federal bureaucracy as the Trump administration nears the conclusion of its second week. Musk has sought to exert sweeping control over the inner workings of the U.S. government, installing longtime surrogates at several agencies, including the Office of Personnel Management, which essentially handles federal human resources, and the General Services Administration, which manages real estate. (Musk was seen on Thursday visiting GSA, according to two other people familiar with his whereabouts, who also spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe internal matters. That visit was first reported by the New York Times.) His Department of Government Efficiency, originally conceived as a nongovernmental panel, has since replaced the U.S. Digital Service.

The executive order Trump signed creating DOGE also instructed all agencies to ensure it has “full and prompt access to all unclassified agency records, software systems, and IT systems,” which would appear to include the Treasury payment systems.

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It is unclear precisely why Musk’s team sought access to those systems. But both Musk and the Trump administration more broadly have sought to control spending in ways that far exceed efforts by their predecessors and have alarmed legal experts.

On Monday, the White House Office of Management and Budget ordered a freeze on all federal grant spending — an order it rescinded two days later amid intense political backlash and multiple lawsuits over the consequences of that decision.

Musk has characterized the rising national debt as an existential threat to the country and has proved willing to break norms in service of sweeping change.

Still, the possibility that government officials might try to use the federal payments system — which essentially functions as the nation’s “checking book” — to enact a political agenda is unprecedented, said Mark Mazur, who served in senior treasury roles during the Obama and Biden administrations.

“This is a mechanical job — they pay Social Security benefits, they pay vendors, whatever. It’s not one where there’s a role for nonmechanical things, at least from the career standpoint. Your whole job is to pay the bills as they’re due,” Mazur said. “It’s never been used in a way to execute a partisan agenda. … You have to really put bad intentions in place for that to be the case.”

In the 2023 fiscal year, the payment systems processed nearly 1.3 billion payments, accounting for about $5.4 trillion, nearly 97 percent made electronically, according to the Treasury Department. Every payment was made on time.

Lebryk’s departure is expected to be a shock to Treasury personnel, among whom he enjoys a sterling reputation. The lifelong bureaucrat joined the department as an intern in 1989 and spent three decades at the agency under 11 different treasury secretaries, serving as acting director of the U.S. Mint and commissioner of the Bureau of the Fiscal Service, among other roles.

Michael Faulkender, whom Trump nominated as deputy U.S. treasury secretary in December, praised Lebryk’s work in 2023.

“I could not, to this day, tell you his politics,” Faulkender, who served as an assistant secretary at Treasury during Trump’s first term, told The Washington Post at the time. “He always seemed to be relaxed and under control.”

 

Nothing good can come from this. I've been involved with BFS in the past and they do not fuck around at all. They were one of the most risk adverse organizations I've ever been involved with.

 

If Elon is getting involved here.

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1 hour ago, Vegas64 said:

I think the military is actually a big part of the insurance as well (e.g. MAD, Show of force to maintain peace, etc.).

I get the desire to cut federal spending and deficits but cutting into the military and military capabilities I think should be the last place to cut-- especially as we are entering into a season of potentially more hot conflicts and countries are re-entrenching around domestic and international partnerships both economically and militarily. 

That said I do wonder if there is a way to cut the fat from the old way and processes of legacy DoD, considering warfare is becoming a lot more digital and autonomous and technical (and cheaply dispensable). Been reading some interesting interviews from founders of Palantir and Anduril and other strategy setters and makers of lethal warfare and it sounds like the new era of war could be upon us in earnest in a paradigm shift not seen since the jump from trench warfare. 

You should stop doing that.

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what you cutting?

1.8 / 6.75 =0.267 -> 26.7% of the total spending is deficit spending.

so if we cut all Welfare, Veterans benefits, education expenses, environmental / resource expenses, transportation spending and all other shit they’re calling ‘other’ we don’t even break even because that adds up to 24% of 6.75 trillion or 1.62 Trillion bucks.

Still need to find 180 billion in the cushions for a balanced budget. 
 

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7 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Relevant:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/01/31/elon-musk-treasury-department-payment-systems/
 

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Typically only a small number of career officials control Treasury’s payment systems. Run by the Bureau of the Fiscal Service, the sensitive systems control the flow of more than $6 trillion annually to households, businesses and more nationwide. Tens, if not hundreds, of millions of people across the country rely on the systems, which are responsible for distributing Social Security and Medicare benefits, salaries for federal personnel, payments to government contractors and grant recipients and tax refunds, among tens of thousands of other functions.

The clash reflects an intensifying battle between Musk and the federal bureaucracy as the Trump administration nears the conclusion of its second week. Musk has sought to exert sweeping control over the inner workings of the U.S. government, installing longtime surrogates at several agencies, including the Office of Personnel Management, which essentially handles federal human resources, and the General Services Administration, which manages real estate. (Musk was seen on Thursday visiting GSA, according to two other people familiar with his whereabouts, who also spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe internal matters. That visit was first reported by the New York Times.) His Department of Government Efficiency, originally conceived as a nongovernmental panel, has since replaced the U.S. Digital Service.

The executive order Trump signed creating DOGE also instructed all agencies to ensure it has “full and prompt access to all unclassified agency records, software systems, and IT systems,” which would appear to include the Treasury payment systems.

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It is unclear precisely why Musk’s team sought access to those systems. But both Musk and the Trump administration more broadly have sought to control spending in ways that far exceed efforts by their predecessors and have alarmed legal experts.

On Monday, the White House Office of Management and Budget ordered a freeze on all federal grant spending — an order it rescinded two days later amid intense political backlash and multiple lawsuits over the consequences of that decision.

Musk has characterized the rising national debt as an existential threat to the country and has proved willing to break norms in service of sweeping change.

Still, the possibility that government officials might try to use the federal payments system — which essentially functions as the nation’s “checking book” — to enact a political agenda is unprecedented, said Mark Mazur, who served in senior treasury roles during the Obama and Biden administrations.

“This is a mechanical job — they pay Social Security benefits, they pay vendors, whatever. It’s not one where there’s a role for nonmechanical things, at least from the career standpoint. Your whole job is to pay the bills as they’re due,” Mazur said. “It’s never been used in a way to execute a partisan agenda. … You have to really put bad intentions in place for that to be the case.”

In the 2023 fiscal year, the payment systems processed nearly 1.3 billion payments, accounting for about $5.4 trillion, nearly 97 percent made electronically, according to the Treasury Department. Every payment was made on time.

Lebryk’s departure is expected to be a shock to Treasury personnel, among whom he enjoys a sterling reputation. The lifelong bureaucrat joined the department as an intern in 1989 and spent three decades at the agency under 11 different treasury secretaries, serving as acting director of the U.S. Mint and commissioner of the Bureau of the Fiscal Service, among other roles.

Michael Faulkender, whom Trump nominated as deputy U.S. treasury secretary in December, praised Lebryk’s work in 2023.

“I could not, to this day, tell you his politics,” Faulkender, who served as an assistant secretary at Treasury during Trump’s first term, told The Washington Post at the time. “He always seemed to be relaxed and under control.”

 

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The highest-ranking career official at the Treasury Department is departing after a clash with allies of billionaire Elon Musk over access to sensitive payment systems, according to three people with knowledge of the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private talks.

David A. Lebryk, who served in nonpolitical roles at Treasury for several decades, is expected to leave the agency soon, the people said. President Donald Trump named Lebryk as acting secretary upon taking office last week. Lebryk had a dispute with Musk’s surrogates over access to the payment system the U.S. government uses to disburse trillions of dollars every year, the people said. The exact nature of the disagreement was not immediately clear, they said.

Officials affiliated with Musk’s “Department of Government Efficiency” have been asking since after the election for access to the system, the people said — requests that were reiterated more recently, including after Trump’s inauguration.

sounds like DOGE and Elon are going to scrutinize every payment and perhaps prove that each payment is adhering to Trump's priorities. Elon is famous for tearing out a server and then waiting to see if that caused a problem. Maybe stop a few million Treasury payments and listen for the outrage or impact. After all, what is worst thing that can happen if you stop paying people.

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13 hours ago, Thetexashammer said:

I tried to explain, over and over again, the fiscal situation. This was a couple of years ago.

I looked at debt to the penny for 1 OCT 2023, then compared in with the same number for 1 OCT 2024. Then I looked up federal spending in fiscal 2024. I calculated a deficit of 8.2%. You can replicate that calculation, some of you, but not most. 40% of every dollar of federal spending is borrowed.

These aren't even RIFs. RIFs are coming. The money doesn't exist to pay those salaries. 20% is of federal spending interest expense, which cannot be cut.  In order to balance the budget we have to cut around 50% of all noninterest spending.

Once we hit a recession, the deficit will blow out to $5 trillion. No one will finance our deficits. The dollar will crumble. Inflation explodes.

The leftists here decided they didn't love their children enough to care about all of that. The crisis was avoidable, were it not for people like you. All you had to do was balance the budget. Stop believing the lie.

I wish the best to all of you. Prepare for what is coming or don't. Your track record so far isn't great. 

 

Every president since Calvin Coolidge has added to the national debt. Donald Trump added 4 trillion to the debt in 2 years (before Covid). 8 Total, which matches really excessive spending that took Obama 8 years to achieve. Joe Biden actually added to the debt at a much smaller percentage than most previous presidents in the last 60+ years. Here's some numbers with my notations for extremely itneresting numbers, both in debt percetnage and time it took to uncork them. Source:
https://www.self.inc/info/us-debt-by-president/



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Gotta tell you, it sure seems like MOST of those egregious numbers were...put there by Republicans? So why do you say it's the "leftists?" Look at Joe Biden, clocking in at a percentage well below Trump, HW, GW, Reagan (holy forkballs), Jimmy Carter...

And damn, lets take a moment to marvel at the...<checks notes> DEMOCRATIC fiscal responsibility from JFK and LBJ (even as they fought a war in Vietnam!). 
 

So again, why do you blame the Left for this? Also, please, why hasn't the right passed a balanced budget amendment when they had the ability to during Reagan, or Trump, or any other time, if it's so important?

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