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  1. 1. Jalen or josh

    • Josh Allen regardless of SB outcome
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    • Jalen Hurts regardless of SB outcome
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    • Jalen if the Eagles win
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If their career ended after this Super Bowl?   Is it dependent on how Hurts does against the Chiefs?   Allen is viewed as a much better player but Jalen’s teams have been more successful. 

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25 minutes ago, markstanco said:


Jeff Hostetler comes to mind immediately. I’m sure there are more.

For those who won this century and not already im. 

Tom and Pat are no brainers  as is Brees

A Aron is a a dipshit but he’s in

Eli and Ben will get in. Stafford also likely as well

Nick Foles LOL
Flacco ain’t making it

Russ ain’t making it

Brad Johnson no dice

Dilfer….nah

 

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Jim Kelly is in the HOF.  0 SBs.  Fewer total TDs than Allen.  Barely more total yards in many more games.  Twice as many INTs.  Fouts is also in.

3 more years for Josh Allen (10 years total) and he'll have an easy case.

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6 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:

Russ ain’t making it

 

 

Better resume than Warren Moon, Stabler, Fouts, Tarkenton, etc

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3 hours ago, 52-80 said:

Jim Kelly is in the HOF.  0 SBs.  Fewer total TDs than Allen.  Barely more total yards in many more games.  Twice as many INTs.  Fouts is also in.

3 more years for Josh Allen (10 years total) and he'll have an easy case.

Remember it's the PRO football HOF. Tell that 0 SBs to the guys who got in from the CFL

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4 hours ago, 52-80 said:

Jim Kelly is in the HOF.  0 SBs.  Fewer total TDs than Allen.  Barely more total yards in many more games.  Twice as many INTs.  Fouts is also in.

3 more years for Josh Allen (10 years total) and he'll have an easy case.

JA plays in the era of inflated passing stats.

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4 hours ago, 52-80 said:

Better resume than Warren Moon, Stabler, Fouts, Tarkenton, etc

That Seattle Defense  was never remotely approaching the shit the Chargers had on that side of the ball in the 80's.

Dan Fouts was better than fucking Russ.   Tougher and better.  The game was different then too.

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37 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

JA plays in the era of inflated passing stats.

Plenty of other big-number QBs in this era like Matty Ice.  

JA is special because hes an absolute dawg. 

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40 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Stafford is a lock right 

Tough, prolific, sb champ, and handsome. 

I dont want to live in a world where Stafford (and Rivers) arent honored. 

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Rivers is not HOF. I get that we're just letting people in. But the true standard should be "if it's even a discussion, the answer is no".

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I think Josh has a good chance of making it. He seems like he will play until he's 40 or so, and should be hitting some all time high stats. He might get a ring or two along the way. 

While we are on the subject, does Eli Manning belong in the HoF?

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Dan Marino (HOF) got the Dolphins to the SB his rookie year. He got beat by Montana and the 49ers, but most thought his time would come. Never made another appearance in the SB over roughly two decades of being a good QB.

Some lesser QBs just happen to not have to “be the man” to get that SB opportunity and victory, like Dilfer, so it truly is a system and/or team that does it.

Hook’em!!!

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45 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

I think Josh has a good chance of making it. He seems like he will play until he's 40 or so, and should be hitting some all time high stats. He might get a ring or two along the way. 

While we are on the subject, does Eli Manning belong in the HoF?

Eli is a lock. Two super bowls.   Deserve?   Idk.  
 

 

ben rothleisberger?

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2 hours ago, Dutchrudder said:

I think Josh has a good chance of making it. He seems like he will play until he's 40 or so, and should be hitting some all time high stats. He might get a ring or two along the way. 

While we are on the subject, does Eli Manning belong in the HoF?

But them Buffalo winters take days, weeks, months and years off a man’s life. 

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19 hours ago, Pam Cummings said:

Rivers is not HOF. I get that we're just letting people in. But the true standard should be "if it's even a discussion, the answer is no".

6th all-time in yards and touchdowns (at better than 2:1 ratio). 8 pro-bowls. 5 years of 100+ rating. 4k+ yards in 12 of 15 starting seasons. 

dude is making it in the hall

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Neither is the answer but mainly because no QB has been inducted with such short careers since like Sammy Baugh.  Allen has 7 years.  Hurts has 5 years.  So if they both retired after the SB, neither would make it but Allen is much closer than Hurts.  He's a much better passer with double the passing TDs, almost double the yards, TD% is a full point ahead and he's had multiple years of 30+ passing TDs and 4 years of 4k+ passing yards.  Hurts hasn't reached either of those plateaus.  After the season, Allen will have 4 top 5 finishes for MVP, Hurts will have 1.  Even with a SB win, unless he goes stupid like scoring 6 TDs and winning a game in the last seconds, this isn't relatively close.  Allen is way ahead of Hurts right now.  Hurts is a solid QB on a really good team.  Allen is an elite one on a decent team.  Buffalo without Allen wouldn't make the playoffs.

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4 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

Washington won the Super Bowl with Theisman, Doug Williams, and Mark Rypien. None are, or will ever be, in the Hall of Fame.

Just saying.

and Dan Marino may the best pure passer of the ball in the history of the game.

Rings matter, but they aren't required.  Nor are they an auto-admit.

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On 1/31/2025 at 4:33 PM, Pam Cummings said:

Rivers is not HOF. I get that we're just letting people in. But the true standard should be "if it's even a discussion, the answer is no".

Bullshit. Rivers should be in

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Allen for sure. Duh. Poor Mahomes.*

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Yes, I know this a very stupid and boring thread about whether Hurts or Allen reaches the HOF first. I'm just trying it make it entertaining. 

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6 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

Hurts is already light years ahead of Josh Allen. He's what everyone pretends Josh Allen is.

That is certainly a take. An extemely hyperbolic one, but that is a take.

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On 2/10/2025 at 9:49 PM, The Dog said:

Did ANYONE expect Hurts to be as good of an NFL QB as he is?

I sure didn’t.

NEIN !!

I basically thought he was going to be a slower version of what Jalen Milroe is. 

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On 2/11/2025 at 3:02 PM, The Dog said:

Ringless Rivers shouldn't be in before Eli.

They are both going to make it. Both have top 10 career QB stats (Rivers are better). Eli has 2 rings. They are both getting in.

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1 hour ago, Captain Ron said:

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It's bonkers to me that he didn't get in. Two rings should be an auto-admit, especially with all the JAGS that have already been admitted over the years. 

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I mean I can poke fun because JKWellborn miss prediction, but that Eli didn't get in is inexcusable. His numbers alone warrant it, and the two rings should make it a lock.

I know we live in an era of inflated stats for QBs, but in the end these guys are way up there.

On 1/30/2025 at 10:56 AM, Longboard Horn said:

You win a ring, you're in

Not true for a number of reasons, but pointed out below

On 1/31/2025 at 12:09 AM, Surly Bevo said:

For those who won this century and not already im. 

Tom and Pat are no brainers  as is Brees

A Aron is a a dipshit but he’s in

Eli and Ben will get in. Stafford also likely as well

Nick Foles LOL
Flacco ain’t making it

Russ ain’t making it

Brad Johnson no dice

Dilfer….nah

going down this list of SB winners this century (BTW the stats ranks will be Completions, Yards, TDs)

IN:
Tom, Peyton, Brees - all in, they are top 3 in the career passing categories
Rodgers is 7-7-5 + a ring (hell it was with McCarthy as a coach, that should count for 2)
Eli: 11-11-11 + 2 rings
Ben: 6-5-8 + 2 rings
Stafford: 9-10-10

NOPE:
Foles: 161-175-174
Brad Johnson: 47-61-80
Dilfer: 105-116-135

MAYBE:
Flacco: 12-18-22 (I'm thinking no)
Wilson: 16-17-12

 

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