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12 minutes ago, Willis C Hawley said:

Ok so how long does it take Canada to cave? 
 

The math is not even close to in their favor. 
 

https://x.com/amlivemon/status/1885887201910689882?s=46

 

“You dont seem to understand how things work. 18% of Canada's GDP relies on the US, 1.5% of US GDP relies on Canada... even with Canadian oil tariffs, the Fed will just short sell oil to the $50s and negate whatever tariffs you put on and make the pain much worse.”

 

Seems pretty straightforward. This is all a performance. Trudeau is in the process of resigning. 

Oil, lumber for starters.

Their next PM (who is the Canadian version of our dear leader no cr) tweeted this text:

We must put CANADA FIRST.
 
That is why Common Sense Conservatives condemn President Trump’s massive, unjust and unjustified tariffs on Canada’s already weak economy. Canada is the United States’ closest neighbour, greatest ally and best friend. We share the longest undefended border and fought alongside Americans in two world wars, Korea and Afghanistan, where 158 of our brave men and women died helping the U.S. avenge the 9/11 attacks. There is no justification whatsoever for this treatment.    
 
The Liberals must put aside their partisan interests and recall Parliament now to pass a Canada First Plan that will: 
 
1. Retaliate with dollar-for-dollar tariffs carefully aimed at maximizing impact on American companies while minimizing impact on Canadian consumers. That means targeting U.S. products that we can make ourselves, buy elsewhere or do without. For example, we must retaliate against American steel and aluminium, as Canadians can make those vital products at home. 
 
2. Put all the tariff revenues into help for affected workers and businesses; Government should not keep a dime of the new revenue. 
 
3. Pass a massive emergency Bring It Home Tax Cut to bolster the economy, stop inflation and save and create jobs. Canada needs a massive tax cut on work, investment, energy, homebuilding and making stuff at home. The Liberal carbon tax and capital gains tax hikes must be the first on the chopping block.  
 
4. Immediately scrap the Liberal anti-resource law C-69 and greenlight LNG plans, pipelines, mines, factories, and port expansions to overseas markets.  
 
5. Bring in truly free trade within Canada by knocking down interprovincial barriers to help replace lost north-south trade with east-west trade and to make us self-reliant.
 
6. Rebuild our military and take back control of our borders to regain the confidence of our partners, assert our sovereignty, protect our people and put Canada First.   
 
We will protect our economy, defend our sovereignty, bring home production and paycheques and never back down. We will put Canada First—now and always.

 

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50 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Out of curiosity, GRUhorn, have you kept up with the number of times you've been banned or crowdsourced from this site?

It's an honest question.

A couple of years ago, I think it was about a dozen. What's it up to now, three dozen, maybe?

And people wonder why the site is dying

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2 hours ago, The Ace of Aces said:

For example, we must retaliate against American steel and aluminium, as Canadians can make those vital products at home. 

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If they replace our imports with their own stuff, me thinks that we have lost that trade for years to come.

2 hours ago, The Ace of Aces said:

 5. Bring in truly free trade within Canada by knocking down interprovincial barriers to help replace lost north-south trade with east-west trade and to make us self-reliant.

Yeah, if they replace any trade with us with other countries, again, me thinks that we have lost that trade for many years to come.

Why do I get the feeling that by this summer, we will be trading with China even more than we already do?

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9 hours ago, Willis C Hawley said:

 

This is obviously being done to extract something. I’m sure it’s been discussed between them.
 

They will definitely cave as in back down on the matching tariffs, and soon.

Trump literally won’t take a phone call from Trudeau. They still haven’t spoken.

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14 hours ago, DixonHur said:

The EV industry is a good case study on tariffs, because while the US would want to protect against a flood of cheap cars from China, the domestic industry relies heavily on rare earth metals from...checks notes...China 

Some of this is by choice and government bans. 

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17 hours ago, The Ace of Aces said:

Oil, lumber for starters.

Their next PM (who is the Canadian version of our dear leader no cr) tweeted this text:

We must put CANADA FIRST.
 
That is why Common Sense Conservatives condemn President Trump’s massive, unjust and unjustified tariffs on Canada’s already weak economy. Canada is the United States’ closest neighbour, greatest ally and best friend. We share the longest undefended border and fought alongside Americans in two world wars, Korea and Afghanistan, where 158 of our brave men and women died helping the U.S. avenge the 9/11 attacks. There is no justification whatsoever for this treatment.    
 
The Liberals must put aside their partisan interests and recall Parliament now to pass a Canada First Plan that will: 
 
1. Retaliate with dollar-for-dollar tariffs carefully aimed at maximizing impact on American companies while minimizing impact on Canadian consumers. That means targeting U.S. products that we can make ourselves, buy elsewhere or do without. For example, we must retaliate against American steel and aluminium, as Canadians can make those vital products at home. 
 
2. Put all the tariff revenues into help for affected workers and businesses; Government should not keep a dime of the new revenue. 
 
3. Pass a massive emergency Bring It Home Tax Cut to bolster the economy, stop inflation and save and create jobs. Canada needs a massive tax cut on work, investment, energy, homebuilding and making stuff at home. The Liberal carbon tax and capital gains tax hikes must be the first on the chopping block.  
 
4. Immediately scrap the Liberal anti-resource law C-69 and greenlight LNG plans, pipelines, mines, factories, and port expansions to overseas markets.  
 
5. Bring in truly free trade within Canada by knocking down interprovincial barriers to help replace lost north-south trade with east-west trade and to make us self-reliant.
 
6. Rebuild our military and take back control of our borders to regain the confidence of our partners, assert our sovereignty, protect our people and put Canada First.   
 
We will protect our economy, defend our sovereignty, bring home production and paycheques and never back down. We will put Canada First—now and always.

 

 
5. Bring in truly free trade within Canada by knocking down interprovincial barriers to help replace lost north-south trade with east-west trade and to make us self-reliant.

BRICS to the rescue. Amazing how fast the US has turned into the global economic bad guy since 9/11/2001. Our allies will flock to alliance with other nations and we may soon have strong Chinese and Indian influence right on both of our major borders. 

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1 hour ago, TexasEd said:

 

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Well, if Canada becomes part of the U.S., the Fentanyl they are sending here no longer streams across our northern border.  It becomes locally sourced U.S. fentanyl.  We solve the northern border fentanyl crisis and bring industry back from abroad.  Well played.

Russia and China are on the clock for their own imperialistic desires.

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3 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

You greatly underestimate the efficiency of price gouging. 

Thankfully, a lot of people don’t shop from online merchants whose prices can almost automatically and instantaneously adjust upwards.

And thankfully a bunch of people aren’t about to start doing their taxes and aren’t about to get a tax refund they are going to use to buy stuff that might be affected by tariffs.

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It doesn’t make much sense to make the entirety of Canada one state.  Canada has over 30 times the land area of Texas and about 30% more population.  After we conquer them each Canadian Province should be its own state, so we would have 62 states.  The former Canadian provinces would have 24 of our 124 Senators and probably 46 of the 435 Representatives, so about 70 of 562 electoral votes

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10 hours ago, locodos said:

Why?  They are 2-0 vs the US

No they are not. They were not Canada at the time. According to the concept of an independent nation they were not one when they built the space robot arm for the space shuttle. THEY EVEN LIED ABOUT THAT....

They were British lackeys who tolerated a French enclave and sunk our ships trying to sneak in and fish their waters.

When did Canada get full independence?
 
1982
 
Thus after the Statute of Westminster, Canada took decades to reach towards full sovereignty. Canada adopted its own constitution and became a fully independent country in 1982. A bill was passed by the Canadian government renaming Dominion Day as Canada Day in the same year.
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