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3 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Once they get Augustine-pilled it’s very difficult to deprogram them.

The absolute worst turf grass for central texas. Nobody likes that shit, and if they do they are a traitor to the constitution. 

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2 hours ago, Ojo Rojo said:

It's going to take a little while - a very short while, in fact - but soon the effects of the dismantled agencies will be felt.  There will be a terrorist attack, more plane crashes, foreign governments may fall to their own coups, lots of bad shit.  That's what has to happen to expose what these policies that are being put into place actually mean.

Let's build some specific hypotheses for testing. 

Rate of terrorist attacks in the US will increase. 

Rate of plane crashes will increase.

Foreign government fail. 

 

We can build all these hypotheses and test them. Science!

Or just go by the feels. Whatever. 

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2 hours ago, Ojo Rojo said:

It's going to take a little while - a very short while, in fact - but soon the effects of the dismantled agencies will be felt.  There will be a terrorist attack, more plane crashes, foreign governments may fall to their own coups, lots of bad shit.  That's what has to happen to expose what these policies that are being put into place actually mean.

It reminds me actually of what Elmo did to Twitter. He came in and gutted it and just took a butcher knife and guessed what was sinew and fat and what was bone and organ. No precision, no nuance, just hacking away.

And like you, I expect clumsy hacking away to cut too deep and screw things up (like with twitter) and there will be outages, but I think he will find the line of bare minimum to only barely keep the lights on and not a dollar more (like, again, with twitter).

That's what I expect at least.

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1 minute ago, Vegas64 said:

It reminds me actually of what Elmo did to Twitter. He came in and gutted it and just took a butcher knife and guessed what was sinew and fat and what was bone and organ. No precision, no nuance, just hacking away.

And like you, I expect clumsy hacking away to cut too deep and screw things up (like with twitter) and there will be outages, but I think he will find the line of bare minimum to only barely keep the lights on and not a dollar more (like, again, with twitter).

That's what I expect at least.

You’re not a rule of law kind of person, it seems. Because, I expect the government to follow the law. I also now expect thousands of folks to lose their job, and millions to owe additional fees for being late on payments. Further, I expect lower courts to reject these goings on and for the executive branch to largely ignore the judiciary; when this ends up at SCOTUS, I expect pure Calvinball.

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After the pussy hat march of 2017, I thought women were our best hope. Misogyny was almost the official theme of Trump's life. The sick fucks of the right, found ways to rope them in with fear talking about the dangerous homo teachers grooming children for sex. Add the terror of transexuals entering the bathrooms at public schools, and you get the panic you look for. You can drape that in the xenophopia of the raping cat-eaters flooding our country.

The thing I didn't recognize as so dangerous was the Christian Nationailists. Kingdom issues. Baby murder. Sex change abductions.

Another that I did not anticipate was the ease with which Musk, a non governmental agent, could seize control of the purse strings. 

I didn't anticipate the specifics of the absurd reasoning that the Treasury office just, gasp, pays out as ordered without exercising veto power which they don't have. Everybody would know this, but we haven't bothered to teach and learn a lot about the republic, it seems.

Nothing blocks the way. Nothing.

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Just now, FartingMonk said:

I feel like we are living in a Sim City 2000 game right now and the player is bored so he is just trying to see how fucked up he can get it to be.

Yes, except the player is Elmo and the sim is real life. 

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57 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Ana and I are in complete agreement on St. Augustine in Central Texas.

It's the worst and it has no business being here.

Also, turfgrass lawns of any type in Central Texas are pretty dumb.

I donno.  There is bad on both sides of the central tx turfgrass argument.

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1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

Ana and I are in complete agreement on St. Augustine in Central Texas.

It's the worst and it has no business being here.

Also, turfgrass lawns of any type in Central Texas are pretty dumb.

It's just common sense. I mean like some of the zoysia strains are at least trying, but seems like buffalo grass should be the dominant species. 

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1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

Ana and I are in complete agreement on St. Augustine in Central Texas.

It's the worst and it has no business being here.

Also, turfgrass lawns of any type in Central Texas are pretty dumb.

If one isn’t going to zero scape what is the best turf for SA? 
My st Augustine is having hell in the areas that get 100% direct sun AND the area getting 100% shade under oaks. 

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19 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

I donno.  There is bad on both sides of the central tx turfgrass argument.

Fair. I just get fed up with the amount of water that keeps going into lawns in the middle of a drought. It's enough already. 

OK, immamac is gonna get annoyed with lawn talk pretty soon.

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50 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Ana and I are in complete agreement on St. Augustine in Central Texas.

It's the worst and it has no business being here.

Also, turfgrass lawns of any type in Central Texas are pretty dumb.

Buffalo grass hybrids and zoysia both do OK, but agree

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22 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

If one isn’t going to zero scape what is the best turf for SA? 

I wouldn’t think of the choice a being between turfgrass and xeriscape. I would recommend thinking about it as destroying your yard with an expensive, fragile, ugly, and boring monoculture vs allocating your space to a landscape of interesting, beautiful and essentially maintenance free native and well adapted plants - buffalo grass or zoysia hybrids for turf areas, surrounded by, salvias, wildflowers, prairie short grasses, pony foot and so on. 

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3 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Let's build some specific hypotheses for testing. 

Rate of terrorist attacks in the US will increase. 

Rate of plane crashes will increase.

Foreign government fail. 

 

We can build all these hypotheses and test them. Science!

Or just go by the feels. Whatever. 

Feels.  Yeah.  That's all this is.  

There has to be cause and effect.  If you remove all of these safeguards and processes and shit, the likelihood increases that something bad will happen. I don't know exactly what forms it will take - I just gave three examples. If nothing bad happens then everything all of these agencies and policies ever did was jack fucking shit. That's not feelings, it's logic.

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10 minutes ago, Ojo Rojo said:

Feels.  Yeah.  That's all this is.  

There has to be cause and effect.  If you remove all of these safeguards and processes and shit, the likelihood increases that something bad will happen. I don't know exactly what forms it will take - I just gave three examples. If nothing bad happens then everything all of these agencies and policies ever did was jack fucking shit. That's not feelings, it's logic.

Not to mention the hypothesis offered is way too black-and-white thinking, ignoring mediating and moderating factors. None of these hypotheses specify a causal mechanism or independent variables. How do you operationalize the key variables? 

Frustrating to see someone who should know better just throwing out scientific verbiage and false dichotomies to win internet arguments at this point. 

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7 minutes ago, YChang said:

Not to mention the hypothesis offered is way too black-and-white thinking, ignoring mediating and moderating factors. None of these hypotheses specify a causal mechanism or independent variables. How do you operationalize the key variables? 

Frustrating to see someone who should know better just throwing out scientific verbiage and false dichotomies to win internet arguments at this point. 

Or he was trying to narrow it down to those three things and if any of them didn't happen then he would get a "gotcha" moment.  My point was and is that unless Congress and the courts block these EOs and DOGE initiatives, bad things are going to start to happen - cholera outbreaks, crime rates, poverty rates, homelessness, etc.  I'm not a sadist, by any means, but if all of that has to happen for conservatives to say, "Oh, maybe all of this shit wasn't such a good idea," then so be it.

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2 minutes ago, Ojo Rojo said:

Or he was trying to narrow it down to those three things and if any of them didn't happen then he would get a "gotcha" moment.  My point was and is that unless Congress and the courts block these EOs and DOGE initiatives, bad things are going to start to happen - cholera outbreaks, crime rates, poverty rates, homelessness, etc.  I'm not a sadist, by any means, but if all of that has to happen for conservatives to say, "Oh, maybe all of this shit wasn't such a good idea," then so be it.

I learned a while ago that a schizophrenic that lived in Knoxville near campus would feel better after taking his medication, so he would stop taking his medication feeling he didn't need it anymore.  After the next round of being dirty, yelling at students and pretending to snipe people, he would get picked up by the police and a few weeks later the cycle would begin anew. 

This is what I see with anti-vaccine morons.  They didn't live through the horrors, so they were against it.  The people who removed Glass-Steagall didn't live through the crisis that warranted the creation of it.   The people who remove regulations, cite government overreach when they do not, cannot, or care not to understand why those regulations were enacted in the first place.   

Apparently our Air is too clean.  Our water too clean.  Our electricity too stable.  Lets deregulate it all and bring back the days when my father would pass out because the wind changed directions from the chemical factory next to his elementary school.   Fuck yeah.  

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58 minutes ago, Ojo Rojo said:

Or he was trying to narrow it down to those three things and if any of them didn't happen then he would get a "gotcha" moment. 

Not trying to narrow anything. Lay out your a priori hypotheses and we can test them. I don’t care how many you want to spec out, but when we get to the appropriate point I will point out the alpha error inflation. 

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5 hours ago, Vegas64 said:

It reminds me actually of what Elmo did to Twitter. He came in and gutted it and just took a butcher knife and guessed what was sinew and fat and what was bone and organ. No precision, no nuance, just hacking away.

And like you, I expect clumsy hacking away to cut too deep and screw things up (like with twitter) and there will be outages, but I think he will find the line of bare minimum to only barely keep the lights on and not a dollar more (like, again, with twitter).

That's what I expect at least.

 

exact same game plan, 100% 

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6 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

I new that.

I just misappropriated the wurd.

This is a hybrid. This is a cross, ah, of Bluegrass, Kentucky Bluegrass, Featherbed Bent, and Northern California Sinsemilla. The amazing stuff about this is, that you can play 36 holes on it in the afternoon, take it home and just get stoned to the bejeezus-belt that night on this stuff.”

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