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4 minutes ago, d2o said:

A brand new franchise would be worth more A LOT more.    They arent trying to move the Mavs to LV

no but mavs fans can boycott and force an eviction that leaves the name marks & history here and they can take their talents the fuck out of town on a rail tarred and feathered

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6 minutes ago, d2o said:

A brand new franchise would be worth more A LOT more.    They arent trying to move the Mavs to LV

See my post after.  The threat to move is a bargaining chip w the politicians of Texas to get gambling done.  Politicians are morons representing…morons.  

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2 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

How does trading Luka facilitate legalized gambling in Texas? I’m failing to connect the dots here. Or how does trading Luka facilitate a team move to Vegas where gambling is legal? Help make this make sense.

You diminish fan support by tanking and then use that fact as impetus for ramping up the rhetoric about relocating the franchise to Vegas with a "but we might ya know reconsider that decision if you would think about legalizing gambling here"

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37 minutes ago, d2o said:

Harrison said this trade was built over the last 3 weeks of conversation.   Crazy that he wouldnt try to shop to another team.   Even if you wanted AD just to try and up the offer and get more in the way of picks.

he's full of shit - he handed the lakers a superstar on a platter

fuck the adelsons

robert irsay & art modell are laughing from the grave

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4 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

How does trading Luka facilitate legalized gambling in Texas? I’m failing to connect the dots here. Or how does trading Luka facilitate a team move to Vegas where gambling is legal? Help make this make sense.

You diminish fan support by breaking shit and then use that diminished support as the impetus for ramping up the rhetoric about relocating the franchise to Vegas with a "but we might ya know reconsider that decision if you would think about legalizing gambling here and help us re-energize fan interest and support (that we helped kill)"

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15 minutes ago, CurlyDumps said:

Guess this is what happens when you let a shoe exec run your sports team. Nico Harrison is an AD simp who had a relationship with him at Nike. 

Also heard there was a little friction between Luka's "body team" and Mavs training staff. And I find it hilarious Luka employs a "body team." What do they do, nod and tell him it's okay to inhale Onion Rings and Mozzarella sticks and guzzle pitchers of Hefeweizen every night?

 

I want a body team now

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6 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

How does trading Luka facilitate legalized gambling in Texas? I’m failing to connect the dots here. Or how does trading Luka facilitate a team move to Vegas where gambling is legal? Help make this make sense.

The simplest explanation is that the Adelsons did not want to pay him. 

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9 minutes ago, Derka said:

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my favorite part about these blockbuster deals is how talking heads LOVE telling us how much their phone blows up when something goes down. Ramona Shelburne &  Windhorst were on sportscenter earlier talking about how their phones were on fire from so many people asking them if it was true. 

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4 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

The simplest explanation is that the Adelsons did not want to pay him. 

Yep, it may be a bad decision but its the only realistic conclusion.  All the conspiracy stuff is over the top.    The only real question is why didnt they shop him?

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2 minutes ago, d2o said:

Yep, it may be a bad decision but its the only realistic conclusion.  All the conspiracy stuff is over the top.    The only real question is why didnt they shop him?

Which brings into question if not wanting to pay him is the "only realistic conclusion". 

 

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9 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

The simplest explanation is that the Adelsons did not want to pay him. 

But they will pay AD for a couple of years even more short term?  And take a bad deal to do it?  If it was future salary, wouldn’t they still want proper value in return in the form of future picks?

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26 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

You diminish fan support by breaking shit and then use that diminished support as the impetus for ramping up the rhetoric about relocating the franchise to Vegas with a "but we might ya know reconsider that decision if you would think about legalizing gambling here and help us re-energize fan interest and support (that we helped kill)"

That doesn’t make any sense. Reducing fan support also reduces their political capital (ie public goodwill) and a shit ass franchise has way less leverage than a good one. 

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20 minutes ago, d2o said:

Yep, it may be a bad decision but its the only realistic conclusion.  All the conspiracy stuff is over the top.    The only real question is why didnt they shop him?

or why didn't the adelsons have any appreciation for the mav's history with the lakers?

i mean, if they are going to simply give him away why didn't they just give him to the bulls, celtics, knicks, 76ers?

the word conspiracy does not ring true to me as the description of what happened

more like collusion

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4 minutes ago, destroya said:

That doesn’t make any sense. Reducing fan support also reduces their political capital (ie public goodwill) and a shit ass franchise has way less leverage than a good one. 

Are you paying attention?  Since when does the "break shit to cause a crisis you already have a pre-determined solution for" playbook make any sense?

They either get the gambling in Texas they want, or they move the team to Vegas which is something they may want less but is a fine consolation win.  The only people who get hurt in that transaction are fans.  

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23 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Which brings into question if not wanting to pay him is the "only realistic conclusion". 

 

Nah, the lie is them not talking to him about the deal.   If they have been discussing the deal for 3 weeks there is no way in hell they hadnt talked to him and knew that is where he wanted to go.

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1 minute ago, Surly Bevo said:

Are you paying attention?  Since when does the "break shit to cause a crisis you already have a pre-determined solution for" playbook make any sense?

Agreed. Never underestimate the ability of people to believe what they want to believe…including message board posters. 

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4 minutes ago, d2o said:

Nah, the lie is them not talking to him about the deal.   If they have been discussing the deal for 3 weeks there is no way in hell they hadnt talked to him and knew that is where he wanted to go.

i believe they didn't tell him or any of the parties to the deal

the story would have broken - there is no way a player doesn't tell his camp or leak it themselves

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12 hours ago, ztejas said:

This doesn't make any sense though. Luka and a 40 year old LeBron is a bizarre pairing. They're already bad on defense. 

This is isnt about this year or next.  Luka is now Laker for the next 10 years.

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2 minutes ago, jdhorn92 said:

Luka is 25.  Let that sink in.  25 and one of the top players in the world.  Mavs trade him for a draft pick and a washed up center/role player.

AD is currently playing and averaging 26 and 12 and is one of the best defenders in the league. I get your general point, but no need to go crazy.

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30 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

I like AD, but god damn, there are only two teams (Denver and San Antonio) in the league that wouldn't entertain a superstar swap for Luka.

okc has a billion picks and a ton of young talent. surely they could have offered a better package than that. they’re the one team that i’m not 100% certain would want to break things up even for luka, but i still have to imagine that if they did want him, the trade package would be absurd.

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1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

But they will pay AD for a couple of years even more short term?  And take a bad deal to do it?  If it was future salary, wouldn’t they still want proper value in return in the form of future picks?

Who said they were going to pay him?

Heading straight for the cellar.

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3 hours ago, AbeFroman said:

The number of people online blaming Cuban for this, not knowing that he is not involved in the day-to-day or decision-making is ridiculous.

If Cuban were in control, you would have had to pry Luka from his cold dead hands.

He a) is a total jackass buffoon, and b) knowingly ceded control when he brought the Adelsons in. 

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1 hour ago, d2o said:

Yep, it may be a bad decision but its the only realistic conclusion.  All the conspiracy stuff is over the top.    The only real question is why didnt they shop him?

 

1 hour ago, ChiTownDoc said:

How's that explain not getting a fuckload more for a top 3-4 player in his prime?

Y'all are underestimating how stupid they are. Adelsons said to Nico to trade him quickly and walla here you go. 

Stupidity and greed. They see jettisoning Luka as a way to maximize profits. I hope it backfires spectacularly.

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