Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted
  On 2/13/2025 at 5:22 AM, Sbbruin said:

Defense appears to be a problem when you give up 131 to the Jazz.  This was the worst trade ever.  Luka 1-5 from the line.  His fat belly must’ve got in the way of his shot.  Fire Pelinka.

Expand  

Don’t be a dick.

Posted
  On 2/13/2025 at 2:10 PM, 'stache said:

Don’t be a dick.

Expand  

I mean the Lakers were awful last night. Finney-Smith was out which hurt them.

Their rotation at the 5 is horrific.

I think they give it a shot this year to make a run but they're going to have to rebuild/retool around Luka the way Dallas did at some point. 

Posted
  On 2/13/2025 at 4:32 PM, ztejas said:

I mean the Lakers were awful last night. Finney-Smith was out which hurt them.

Their rotation at the 5 is horrific.

I think they give it a shot this year to make a run but they're going to have to rebuild/retool around Luka the way Dallas did at some point. 

Expand  

They're not making a run this year at all.  The Luka trade was all about the future and they're set up very well.

This current roster is horrible on defense.  Like maybe worst in the league or at least among all of the playoff teams.  The Williams trade would have helped but they probably dodged a bullet there, to be honest.  He's just never healthy for one reason or another.

Posted
  On 2/13/2025 at 4:37 PM, Aqua Buddha said:

They're not making a run this year at all.  The Luka trade was all about the future and they're set up very well.

This current roster is horrible on defense.  Like maybe worst in the league or at least among all of the playoff teams.  The Williams trade would have helped but they probably dodged a bullet there, to be honest.  He's just never healthy for one reason or another.

Expand  

I feel like they jumped the gun playing Luka. He's clearly not in game shape and they could have given him the entire ASB to ramp up.

Posted (edited)
  On 2/13/2025 at 4:32 PM, ztejas said:

I mean the Lakers were awful last night. Finney-Smith was out which hurt them.

Their rotation at the 5 is horrific.

I think they give it a shot this year to make a run but they're going to have to rebuild/retool around Luka the way Dallas did at some point. 

Expand  

I was just kinda making a joke to make me feel better, as I assume Bruin's post was a bit toungue and cheek as well. I don't see the Lakers making a run this year, but their future is secure, and will likely at least be a playoff team this year. Luka's defense will improve, he'll likely never be a great defender, but it'll improve. The trade will always be one of the dumbest things of all time. I mean just financially, he brings eyeballs from all over Europe, the financial loss from that alone is just mind numbing how they could let him go with such little in return.

Edited by 'stache
Posted
  On 2/13/2025 at 5:10 PM, 'stache said:

I was just kinda making a joke to make me feel better, as I assume Bruin's post was a bit toungue and cheek as well.

Expand  

I know - just saying the issues that some of us foresaw were on full display last night. 

Not a revision of the trade per se just a litmus test for what this Lakers team might be the rest of this season. Going to be a lot of 115+ scores from both teams in both Lakers wins and losses.

Posted
  On 2/13/2025 at 5:10 PM, 'stache said:

was just kinda making a joke to make me feel better, as I assume Bruin's post was a bit toungue and cheek as well

Expand  

He still gets to deal with ucla football, and the lakers aren’t all that good again yet. And there’s only so many dodgers related threads in which to troll.  I say give the poor bastard a break. 

Posted
  On 2/13/2025 at 5:29 PM, ztejas said:

I know - just saying the issues that some of us foresaw were on full display last night. 

Not a revision of the trade per se just a litmus test for what this Lakers team might be the rest of this season. Going to be a lot of 115+ scores from both teams in both Lakers wins and losses.

Expand  

If they play Denver is a series, the losing teams in the games might have in the 130's.

Posted
  On 2/13/2025 at 4:50 PM, ztejas said:

I feel like they jumped the gun playing Luka. He's clearly not in game shape and they could have given him the entire ASB to ramp up.

Expand  

I feel like they did it because it was the home and home against UTA and seen as a way to get him game mins against an inferior team

Posted
  On 2/13/2025 at 7:19 PM, d2o said:

I feel like they did it because it was the home and home against UTA and seen as a way to get him game mins against an inferior team

Expand  

I guess. Just not sure why you'd rush into anything with him. That's a massive asset that you need to protect now. 

I don't think Dallas was planning to bring him back pre-ASB - I was surprised to see him back out there so soon. 

Posted
  On 2/13/2025 at 7:27 PM, ztejas said:

I guess. Just not sure why you'd rush into anything with him. That's a massive asset that you need to protect now. 

I don't think Dallas was planning to bring him back pre-ASB - I was surprised to see him back out there so soon. 

Expand  

How do you ramp him up during the ASB when no one's playing?  He's fine the way they're letting him play now with the minute restrictions.  That's the only way he'll get back in playing form. 

Posted
  On 2/13/2025 at 5:10 PM, 'stache said:

I was just kinda making a joke to make me feel better, as I assume Bruin's post was a bit toungue and cheek as well. I don't see the Lakers making a run this year, but their future is secure, and will likely at least be a playoff team this year. Luka's defense will improve, he'll likely never be a great defender, but it'll improve. The trade will always be one of the dumbest things of all time. I mean just financially, he brings eyeballs from all over Europe, the financial loss from that alone is just mind numbing how they could let him go with such little in return.

Expand  

Ya think?  No I am quite pleased with the trade.

Posted

New levels of pettiness - Grant Afseth is the Mavs blogger who Tim McMahon called a “wannabe reporter” on ESPN when actually checked with the Dallas police about McMahon’s “death threats” story. 

image.thumb.png.3586736c47a7c76f823576aa1a8a8e66.png

  • Haha 2
Posted

Luka - confirmed terrorist

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6137644/2025/02/17/luka-doncic-trade-lakers-mavericks-nico-harrison/

Dončić, who joined the Mavs in 2018, presented a different type of mentality from Bryant. Dončić drinks beer and smokes a hookah, neither of which is atypical for a 25-year-old. But those behaviors didn’t fit Harrison’s mold.

Questions about the organization’s ability to hold Dončić accountable followed.

Management unsuccessfully pushed him to get into better shape, even as he dominated the league, averaging at least 27 points, at least eight rebounds and at least eight assists during each of the five seasons following his first in the NBA. Dončić controlled more day-to-day decisions than the average player does, such as practice schedules, though superstars on other teams receive similar treatment.

“Every person who worked at the Mavericks, except for me, was terrified of this guy,” Haralabos Voulgaris, a Mavericks executive from 2018 to 2021, said of Dončić

Voulgaris told a story about interacting with Dončić during his rookie season. Dončić filled a thermos with lemonade and sweet tea. “I know liquid calories are death,” Voulgaris told then-owner Cuban. Voulgaris, according to his recounting, was told to stay in his lane.

In November, Dončić missed five games with what the Mavericks announced as a right wrist sprain. That injury classification was not entirely true. In reality, Dončić was supposed to use time off to improve his conditioning, team sources said.

Dallas might have worried about Dončić’s body, but until a recent calf ailment, he had never missed significant time because of injury. This will be his first season playing fewer than 60 games. (On the other side, Davis is six years his elder and has failed to compete in 60 games during four of the previous six seasons. Considering the injury he suffered during his first game with the Mavericks, he could miss that landmark again in 2024-25.)

Nonetheless, concern built, including with Harrison, that Dončić’s body would break down possibly sooner than anyone would suspect. It eventually reached a point where Harrison felt he had to move on from someone who could still one day be a league MVP.

  • Rage+1 2
Posted

The thing about this is not so much that they traded Luka it is what they got for him in return.  absolute malpractice regardless of his conditioning and shape at age 25. what they got for him is what you get when he is 35 not 25.

the one thing I will say about Luka that always frustrated me was his FT shooting.  he should be shooting over 80% and it seemed to me at least that he never really worked on it.

  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted
  On 2/17/2025 at 10:50 PM, Js1 said:

Luka - confirmed terrorist

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6137644/2025/02/17/luka-doncic-trade-lakers-mavericks-nico-harrison/

Dončić, who joined the Mavs in 2018, presented a different type of mentality from Bryant. Dončić drinks beer and smokes a hookah, neither of which is atypical for a 25-year-old. But those behaviors didn’t fit Harrison’s mold.

Questions about the organization’s ability to hold Dončić accountable followed.

Management unsuccessfully pushed him to get into better shape, even as he dominated the league, averaging at least 27 points, at least eight rebounds and at least eight assists during each of the five seasons following his first in the NBA. Dončić controlled more day-to-day decisions than the average player does, such as practice schedules, though superstars on other teams receive similar treatment.

“Every person who worked at the Mavericks, except for me, was terrified of this guy,” Haralabos Voulgaris, a Mavericks executive from 2018 to 2021, said of Dončić

Voulgaris told a story about interacting with Dončić during his rookie season. Dončić filled a thermos with lemonade and sweet tea. “I know liquid calories are death,” Voulgaris told then-owner Cuban. Voulgaris, according to his recounting, was told to stay in his lane.

In November, Dončić missed five games with what the Mavericks announced as a right wrist sprain. That injury classification was not entirely true. In reality, Dončić was supposed to use time off to improve his conditioning, team sources said.

Dallas might have worried about Dončić’s body, but until a recent calf ailment, he had never missed significant time because of injury. This will be his first season playing fewer than 60 games. (On the other side, Davis is six years his elder and has failed to compete in 60 games during four of the previous six seasons. Considering the injury he suffered during his first game with the Mavericks, he could miss that landmark again in 2024-25.)

Nonetheless, concern built, including with Harrison, that Dončić’s body would break down possibly sooner than anyone would suspect. It eventually reached a point where Harrison felt he had to move on from someone who could still one day be a league MVP.

Expand  

"We were terrified"

 

😂😂 holy shit, what is he gonna have you killed?

  • Haha 2
Posted
  On 2/17/2025 at 10:50 PM, Js1 said:

Luka - confirmed terrorist

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6137644/2025/02/17/luka-doncic-trade-lakers-mavericks-nico-harrison/

Dončić, who joined the Mavs in 2018, presented a different type of mentality from Bryant. Dončić drinks beer and smokes a hookah, neither of which is atypical for a 25-year-old. But those behaviors didn’t fit Harrison’s mold.

Questions about the organization’s ability to hold Dončić accountable followed.

Management unsuccessfully pushed him to get into better shape, even as he dominated the league, averaging at least 27 points, at least eight rebounds and at least eight assists during each of the five seasons following his first in the NBA. Dončić controlled more day-to-day decisions than the average player does, such as practice schedules, though superstars on other teams receive similar treatment.

“Every person who worked at the Mavericks, except for me, was terrified of this guy,” Haralabos Voulgaris, a Mavericks executive from 2018 to 2021, said of Dončić

Voulgaris told a story about interacting with Dončić during his rookie season. Dončić filled a thermos with lemonade and sweet tea. “I know liquid calories are death,” Voulgaris told then-owner Cuban. Voulgaris, according to his recounting, was told to stay in his lane.

In November, Dončić missed five games with what the Mavericks announced as a right wrist sprain. That injury classification was not entirely true. In reality, Dončić was supposed to use time off to improve his conditioning, team sources said.

Dallas might have worried about Dončić’s body, but until a recent calf ailment, he had never missed significant time because of injury. This will be his first season playing fewer than 60 games. (On the other side, Davis is six years his elder and has failed to compete in 60 games during four of the previous six seasons. Considering the injury he suffered during his first game with the Mavericks, he could miss that landmark again in 2024-25.)

Nonetheless, concern built, including with Harrison, that Dončić’s body would break down possibly sooner than anyone would suspect. It eventually reached a point where Harrison felt he had to move on from someone who could still one day be a league MVP.

Expand  

Lol. Fuck them.

Posted

Eastern Europeans are in general hard to deal with.  They are very blunt and with a different type of humor than Americans.  I have worked with guys in Serbia, Romania and Ukraine for the past 5 years and for the first 2 I was like "these guys fucking hate me" - but it was just the way they are.  

  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted
  On 2/18/2025 at 2:15 PM, Catdaddyhorn said:

I'm hearing from a couple former coworkers of Nico at Nike who all say Nico was forced to make the trade and it wasn't his decision at all. 

Expand  

Ha, not a surprise. Any GM that did that on their own would be rightfully fired. This has ownership written all over it. And it just keeps smelling worse and worse the more time passes and the more weird anti-Luka propaganda stories they try to push.

  • Hook 'Em 2
  • Like 1
Posted
  On 2/17/2025 at 11:33 PM, dcar00 said:

The thing about this is not so much that they traded Luka it is what they got for him in return.  absolute malpractice regardless of his conditioning and shape at age 25. what they got for him is what you get when he is 35 not 25.

Expand  

This is the absolute truth. To be clear, I don’t agree with trading a 25 year old generational talent, but if you convince yourself it’s the right move, you better get the mother load of trade packages instead of a shit sandwich.

  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted

new yorker longcat

tl/dr: harrison and dumont think they are the protagonists

  Reveal hidden contents

 

Posted
  On 2/18/2025 at 2:22 PM, Pam Cummings said:

Ha, not a surprise. Any GM that did that on their own would be rightfully fired. This has ownership written all over it. And it just keeps smelling worse and worse the more time passes and the more weird anti-Luka propaganda stories they try to push.

Expand  

0% chance they know anything about this deal. 

  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted

Nico and ownership didn't want the fire from a publicly known "willingness" to trad Doncic.  so they gave him away for an oft injured C/PF(with a nickname of street clothes, who is, shocker, already out for a month+) and a 1st round pick.

TLDR: He(and Dumont) are pussies.

Posted

I'm still trying to imagine the conversation between the self-annointed hero in JS1's post when he tattled to Cuban about the thermos.

"Excuse me, what?  What the fuck are you blabbering about?  Tea & lemonade? GTFOOH!!!!!!

  • Haha 1
Posted
  On 2/18/2025 at 4:14 PM, dcar00 said:

Nico and ownership didn't want the fire from a publicly known "willingness" to trad Doncic. 

Expand  

I think there is also a significant issue with players tanking their trade value once they know they are on the block. Luka could publicly say he will not sign an extension anywhere but "team X" and make the Mavs forced to take less ideal players from that team instead.

Plus putting him on the block is an insult and ensures that Luka has little to no interest in re-signing with the Mavs either. We saw other players tank their trade value this season, like Jimmy Butler and De'aaron Fox did, and I'm sure the Mavs didn't want to deal with that. That doesn't mean you make that Lakers trade, but it means to get the "best" value for a player like that, you may not want to make public or risk having it leaked early.  

Posted
  On 2/18/2025 at 5:05 PM, Iceman said:

I'm still trying to imagine the conversation between the self-annointed hero in JS1's post when he tattled to Cuban about the thermos.

"Excuse me, what?  What the fuck are you blabbering about?  Tea & lemonade? GTFOOH!!!!!!

Expand  

Some days, you just don’t want to shovel more food in your mouth to meet your calorie goals. Maybe you just want to drink an Arnold Palmer instead 

  • Haha 1
Posted
  On 2/18/2025 at 3:07 PM, Hagbard Celine said:

new yorker longcat

tl/dr: harrison and dumont think they are the protagonists

  Reveal hidden contents

 

Expand  

I have been a regular reader of the New Yorker for most of my adult life, going back to high school, and I did not ever imagine the Dallas Mavericks would do something so stupid that the “The Sporting Scene” would take notice. 

Posted
  On 2/18/2025 at 5:22 PM, Js1 said:

Some days, you just don’t want to shovel more food in your mouth to meet your calorie goals. Maybe you just want to drink an Arnold Palmer instead 

Expand  

If I had the infinity gauntlet and could snap my fingers and vanish everyone supporting the sweet tea industry, I would have to seriously think about it for the betterment of mankind.  Hopefully my wife and daughter will understand.

  • Like 1
  • Haha 5
  • Fuck Around and Find Out 1
Posted
  On 2/18/2025 at 6:52 PM, Gene Parmesan said:

If I had the infinity gauntlet and could snap my fingers and vanish everyone supporting the sweet tea industry, I would have to seriously think about it for the betterment of mankind.  Hopefully my wife and daughter will understand.

Expand  

Fucking A man. It’s the dismal tide. 

  • Like 1
Posted
  On 2/18/2025 at 5:13 PM, Dutchrudder said:

I think there is also a significant issue with players tanking their trade value once they know they are on the block. Luka could publicly say he will not sign an extension anywhere but "team X" and make the Mavs forced to take less ideal players from that team instead.

Plus putting him on the block is an insult and ensures that Luka has little to no interest in re-signing with the Mavs either. We saw other players tank their trade value this season, like Jimmy Butler and De'aaron Fox did, and I'm sure the Mavs didn't want to deal with that. That doesn't mean you make that Lakers trade, but it means to get the "best" value for a player like that, you may not want to make public or risk having it leaked early.  

Expand  

He still has little to no interest in resigning with the Mavs.  
 

 

also as a Lakers fan I want to thank you guys for the gift   

 

 

image.thumb.png.214aac603ab835b06d082decdb0d245f.png

  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted

every NBA GM owes Nico a shitload of money.  they can make nearly any trade and can always say "hey at least you didn't get Nico'd".  he set the bar so low(or is it high?) it is like the ultimate GM 'Get out of Jail Free" card.

Posted

Why am I just now finding out that the daughter Dumont is married to isn't even an Addelson? She's Sheldon's step daughter. And to top it off, one of Sheldon's actual sons is a basketball fanatic and works in the front office of an Israeli team. Not only is Dumont a guy who married into a power that ultimately robbed me of my joy. He married into a 3rd derivative of that power. What in the actual fuck is going on here? 

Posted
  On 2/20/2025 at 8:57 PM, Catdaddyhorn said:

And to top it off, one of Sheldon's actual sons is a basketball fanatic and works in the front office of an Israeli team. 

Expand  

I thought he was the one that was supposed to end up running the Mavs. Read about that right after they bought the team.

Posted
  On 2/20/2025 at 9:48 PM, threesheets said:

I thought he was the one that was supposed to end up running the Mavs. Read about that right after they bought the team.

Expand  

Apparently the one in Israel has had substance abuse issues and is farely young (like still in his 20s) so it will be awhile before he ends up running the team. 

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.



×
×
  • Create New...