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19 minutes ago, F250 said:

The USDS and the IRS put together a free tax filing system that had a test run last year. It worked great and allowed many lower income American tax payers to file taxes for free.

DOGE has now replaced the USDS and decided people shouldn't pay taxes for free so they shuttered the program so private companies can collect a fee.

A lot of services offer free tax filing for simplest returns.  How simple, I'm not sure.  Probably incur a fee if you do something like try to claim the Earned Income Tax Credit.

You would have to supply your own W2 and whatever other docs poors have.

So, in some sense, IRS duplicates whatever else is out there.  And, unfortunately, they probably spent a metric shit ton doing what should have been done a decade ago or more.

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4 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

So usaid is nothing but waste and fraud, but defense dept apparently has each and every penny accounted for and confirmed necessary. 

Hegseth will fix that.  When he's sober and not fucking bitches.

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I'm reminded of Eurohorn whining like a baby back bitch in 2016 when we were pointing out that Trump is a fascist. We're going to see education completely crumble between things like this and the DoE likely getting gutted. The wealthy white children will of course still get to learn how to completely bend the law to their will while Chuck Schumer shits his pants in public.

 

 

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19 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

A lot of services offer free tax filing for simplest returns.  How simple, I'm not sure.  Probably incur a fee if you do something like try to claim the Earned Income Tax Credit.

You would have to supply your own W2 and whatever other docs poors have.

So, in some sense, IRS duplicates whatever else is out there.  And, unfortunately, they probably spent a metric shit ton doing what should have been done a decade ago or more.

Yeah, Intuit has been lobbying against the IRS providing a free tax return system for years but the effort made by the USDS under the Biden administration was probably a waste of money because companies need the transaction fees and your financial data.

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12 minutes ago, F250 said:

Yeah, Intuit has been lobbying against the IRS providing a free tax return system for years but the effort made by the USDS under the Biden administration was probably a waste of money because companies need the transaction fees and your financial data.

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Still, IRS should have done this a long time ago.  But I see that propublica deal about Intuit.  There seem to be other vendors, as well.

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8 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

A lot of services offer free tax filing for simplest returns.  How simple, I'm not sure.  Probably incur a fee if you do something like try to claim the Earned Income Tax Credit.

You would have to supply your own W2 and whatever other docs poors have.

So, in some sense, IRS duplicates whatever else is out there.  And, unfortunately, they probably spent a metric shit ton doing what should have been done a decade ago or more.

Most of the free services are income limited and not that user friendly which (along with rapid refunds) drives a lot of lower income people to H&R Block where they get f-ing fleeced. The free system the IRS built was actually a decent start towards what should be standard which is a government offered filing service. They have your data, click through, agree with it, file, should not be this difficult.
 

As far as your premise that it should have been done a decade ago, okay so what. It was completed and it worked and the R’s have been after it since day one as an unapproved use of funds. My rep keeps sending us emails about how he is helping us, I keep emailing him back telling him he’s not helping me. We’re not here to do everyone’s work, a free service should absolutely be mandatory and would actually help us.

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10 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

Not a threat. I get why you think that, but, unless you darken my doorway, it wasn’t a threat. 

Maybe Surly is not gentle enough for you

Oh cool, another threat.  I guess thats cool around here because is an enlightened leftist threat.  Cool, cool.

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1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:

Incredulity is whining about threats now?

 

You’ve fucked this donkey for 3 years.  My post was siezing of certain groups assets doesn’t stop with the current disfavored group.  That shit spreads like god damn cancer.

 

so take a big step back and fist yourself

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2 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

You’ve fucked this donkey for 3 years.  My post was siezing of certain groups assets doesn’t stop with the current disfavored group.  That shit spreads like god damn cancer.

 

so take a big step back and fist yourself

Sorry, I’m not that flexible.

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Two years ago, I started using FreeTaxUSA. It can handle my taxes fine…W2s, capital gains, etc. It even handled a situation that TurboTax couldn’t when my daughter sold stock to buy a car but the sale had to be taxed at my tax rate since she was a minor with a custodial brokerage account.

I don’t qualify for the free tier but it only costs like $12 to file your taxes using it.

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15 minutes ago, Brew said:

Most of the free services are income limited and not that user friendly which (along with rapid refunds) drives a lot of lower income people to H&R Block where they get f-ing fleeced. The free system the IRS built was actually a decent start towards what should be standard which is a government offered filing service. They have your data, click through, agree with it, file, should not be this difficult.
 

As far as your premise that it should have been done a decade ago, okay so what. It was completed and it worked and the R’s have been after it since day one as an unapproved use of funds. My rep keeps sending us emails about how he is helping us, I keep emailing him back telling him he’s not helping me. We’re not here to do everyone’s work, a free service should absolutely be mandatory and would actually help us.

I just have kind of a pet annoyance with government and IT systems.  The Patent Office, of all places, user-funded, has had online filing for 20-plus years.  Way ahead of the worlds other patent offices, courts and other quasi-judicial systems.

It's a generalized complaint that includes underfunding of the IRS.

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In Singapore you get a text message. “You owe X in taxes. Press 1 to pay now. Press 2 to pay by the month”

That’s it.

Singapore is doing pretty well. Last I checked it has the highest percentage of millionaires in the world.

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9 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

A lot of services offer free tax filing for simplest returns.  How simple, I'm not sure.  Probably incur a fee if you do something like try to claim the Earned Income Tax Credit.

You would have to supply your own W2 and whatever other docs poors have.

So, in some sense, IRS duplicates whatever else is out there.  And, unfortunately, they probably spent a metric shit ton doing what should have been done a decade ago or more.

The free services were far more limited than what the IRS's free file service was. The IRS's free file service was not limited by income, it was limited by the types of reporting documents that a person had. There were also, as I recall a couple types of deduction that it wouldn't process. But it probably handles the income the vast majority of people have. For the rollout purposes it was geographically limited last year. 

 

The free services are often difficult to find and,as you mentioned, the websites try really hard to sell you on every single upsell they can find. And plenty that most people don't need.

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24 minutes ago, Fastbreak said:

In Singapore you get a text message. “You owe X in taxes. Press 1 to pay now. Press 2 to pay by the month”

That’s it.

Singapore is doing pretty well. Last I checked it has the highest percentage of millionaires in the world.

The IRS for years has wanted to do what most other countries do, which is calculate your taxes for you, send you a proposed return, and have you add on any random income they wouldn't be aware of (which for most of us is $0, since the IRS also receives a copy of your W-2s, K-1s, 1099s, etc.).  Republicans always block it.

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33 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Like all trumpkins, he’s a pussy.

He's such a fucking pussy he cant even admit to being a Trumpkin. Yet spends all his time on the CR with Trumps cock and balls shoved in his mouth mumbling incoherently. 

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2 minutes ago, Blotto said:

He's such a fucking pussy he cant even admit to being a Trumpkin. Yet spends all his time on the CR with Trumps cock and balls shoved in his mouth mumbling incoherently. 

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Calm down you're going to pop.  LOL.

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1 hour ago, Keef said:

The IRS for years has wanted to do what most other countries do, which is calculate your taxes for you, send you a proposed return, and have you add on any random income they wouldn't be aware of (which for most of us is $0, since the IRS also receives a copy of your W-2s, K-1s, 1099s, etc.).  Republicans always block it.

Right, don't most actual functioning countries basically file your taxes for you automatically and it's on you to look for any discrepancies? Seems like that would likely collect a shitload more taxes because of people fucking up, but yes the GOP is committing to making sure our ability to collect taxes is intentionally disrupted.

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2 hours ago, Keef said:

The IRS for years has wanted to do what most other countries do, which is calculate your taxes for you, send you a proposed return, and have you add on any random income they wouldn't be aware of (which for most of us is $0, since the IRS also receives a copy of your W-2s, K-1s, 1099s, etc.).  Republicans always block it.

Here's the thing, that doesn't help the rich in any way, shape, or form.

So forget it, pleb, and get back to work.

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1 hour ago, GSU&UT said:

Right, don't most actual functioning countries basically file your taxes for you automatically and it's on you to look for any discrepancies? Seems like that would likely collect a shitload more taxes because of people fucking up, but yes the GOP is committing to making sure our ability to collect taxes is intentionally disrupted.

Oh absolutely. Hiring an extra IRS agent nets a stupid return for the government. That doesn’t change the laws of course, or raise taxes in any way. It just better captures folks who are skirting things.

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