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4 hours ago, hpslugga said:

You’re talking about the legal concept of an opinion, which is different than the layman’s concept of an opinion, which is, to repeat, a belief that cannot be proven true or false.

And that distinction needs to be made because people of the general MAGA ilk hide behind that. You see this whenever they say “it’s a matter of opinion! You can’t attack me for having an opinion!”

There’s a kernel of truth to that. I can’t tell you that you’re wrong for saying blue is the best color or steak is better than shrimp. I can’t justifiably attack you for saying that. It’s a matter of belief that cannot be proven true or false.

The trump issue, on the other hand, does not fall into that category. The maga crowd claims that it is, and they do so to specifically to hide behind it so as to not face up to the reality that they, with the burden totally on them to demonstrate why trump is a good president, cannot for the life of them live up to that burden. So they shift that burden by saying it’s a “matter of opinion.” It’s a total bullshit cop out.

Or to put it another way, think of all of the MAGA morons you know or know of and consider this: hardly any of them (if any) has the balls to debate these issues against anyone even of a mediocre intellect (forget elite) in public.

That tells you everything you need to know. When I do politics, I have only one standard: can I or can’t I defend what I’m saying in public?

If I can’t defend what I’m saying in public, then what the fuck am I even doing? And when honest people get to that precise point, it’s the point where they make the decision to rebuke their previously held position.

When dishonest people get to the point where they realize they can’t defend their position in public, they go into fucking hiding and at best engage in circle jerks. Again, see Texan, Daily. That’s exactly what that fuckin place is. It’s a place where people who routinely got their asses handed to them as far back as the first Trump term and do not have the honesty/balls to admit they were dead fucking wrong, but they do have the honesty to admit they cannot defend their positions in public. So they fuck off to DT (or wherever it is they go) and project when they accuse CR of being an “echo chamber.” In other words, they believe what they believe because they want to believe it, and any contradiction to those beliefs are a big huge conspiracy against them.

Like I said, objectively and subjectively horrible opinions, insupportable with fact.  But not facts.

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18 hours ago, KeysPhoneWallet said:

Ok, everyone here seems to have the same view and that’s great. I’m glad everyone is free to have their views. I’m definitely not going to be able to defend anything well enough or convince anyone of anything. I do think it would be cool to get more views than just the one hive mind view, a little diversity might help things if you will. But I’ll see myself out.

tired often debunked bullshit isn't diversity.

 

and if you wanted someone to address the debt you should probably stop voting for republicans.

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IMO - many people that I know who say Trump is a good/great president, are saying it as a comparative statement. In their minds and words, he is better than Obama, than Hilary would have been, and than Sleepy Joe. 
Let's face it, this past election was the worst choices - for varying, and different reasons - that I can remember. But then again I have only been following these things since the 1976 election. And I did some work for the Udall campaign (and you know why....there were more and better looking girls in his office). 

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38 minutes ago, Wally Fairway said:

IMO - many people that I know who say Trump is a good/great president, are saying it as a comparative statement. In their minds and words, he is better than Obama, than Hilary would have been, and than Sleepy Joe. 
Let's face it, this past election was the worst choices - for varying, and different reasons - that I can remember. But then again I have only been following these things since the 1976 election. And I did some work for the Udall campaign (and you know why....there were more and better looking girls in his office). 

They sound like partisans. I wouldn't expect them to say anything else.

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1 hour ago, Wally Fairway said:

IMO - many people that I know who say Trump is a good/great president, are saying it as a comparative statement. In their minds and words, he is better than Obama, than Hilary would have been, and than Sleepy Joe. 
Let's face it, this past election was the worst choices - for varying, and different reasons - that I can remember. But then again I have only been following these things since the 1976 election. And I did some work for the Udall campaign (and you know why....there were more and better looking girls in his office). 

You need a better social circle then. He is destroying America quicker than Andrew Jackson. 

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23 hours ago, KeysPhoneWallet said:


The world where if someone says something that another group doesn’t like, even if posted under an anonymous account and regardless on what the intent was behind it, then the mob shows up and kicks them to the dregs of society. Or the next step in that sequence, sends them to a political prison. Go live under the ccp if you want to be so censored, but I think it sounds awful.

Well I don't want that. But then I don't really want these weird guys accountable to nobody I elected having tons of power in the country. I think there is a middle ground between political prison and vast unaccountable political power.

But remember Vivek Ramaswamy was supposed to be the co-head of this operation but he got booted because he said something people didn't like. Seems like he was censored.

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On 2/7/2025 at 6:34 PM, KeysPhoneWallet said:

Do people not want corruption and waste to be eliminated?

Of course. I just question sending a man who gets a ton of government contracts, so not exactly a neutral person, who primary got this job by contributing money to a politician as a non-corrupt way to do that. It sure appears like this is a corrupt quid-pro-quo. You give a Presidential Candidate money and he gives you tons of power to run the country. A government that Elon himself profits a significantly amount from. You think he is going to challenge any corruption and waste that benefits him? Or that he can properly spot what is corruption and wasteful?

But ultimately until people like you start having a problem with anything he has done nothing will happen. So I hope at some point you start to realize how dangerous this is.

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4 hours ago, elfenix said:

tired often debunked bullshit isn't diversity.

 

and if you wanted someone to address the debt you should probably stop voting for republicans.

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I will never forgive the Republicans for their actions from 2001-2004 in blowing up the budget. The fact they did it again in 2017 just shows their commitment to it.

And even if by some miracle Elon Musk and his goons are honest actors who actually do end up saving the government a ton of money while making sure all their mandates are completed efficiently...well...it is just going to be thrown away in another tax cut. The Budget will continue to be in a deficit and the national debt will continue to climb.

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16 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Well I don't want that. But then I don't really want these weird guys accountable to nobody I elected having tons of power in the country. I think there is a middle ground between political prison and vast unaccountable political power.

But remember Vivek Ramaswamy was supposed to be the co-head of this operation but he got booted because he said something people didn't like. Seems like he was censored.

Nobody is going to jail over their opinions, yet.  And if that happens it sure as fuck isn't going to be the CR librul cabal that does it, but rather the DT motherfuckers and the assclowns they support.

We don't censor shit.  We stridently take down counterfactual takes and shitty opinions.  Just exactly as the First Amendment was intended.

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2 minutes ago, C-Man said:

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This reporter fucks

There really isn't anything more deep state than a bunch of political hacks at every level of government instead of civil servants that transcend politics and administrations.

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On 2/7/2025 at 7:20 PM, KeysPhoneWallet said:

Ok. He used an alt account and said some trolling stuff that some find offensive. Ok. Internet trolling is a thing, it’s a problem not as big as the corruption and fraud from within our govt, but it is a problem.

There will be no convincing anyone that already has their mind made up.

 

On 2/7/2025 at 7:55 PM, KeysPhoneWallet said:

Ok, everyone here seems to have the same view and that’s great. I’m glad everyone is free to have their views. I’m definitely not going to be able to defend anything well enough or convince anyone of anything. I do think it would be cool to get more views than just the one hive mind view, a little diversity might help things if you will. But I’ll see myself out.

No. You seem you be confused. There’s no issue with a diversity of opinion or a dissenting view. The other day there was a spirited argument after I pointed out (correctly) that in fact the Danish claim to Greenland is exceptionally weak, and ours is quite strong , and at any rate the Greenlanders should decide such things. Because so many people here are ready to oppose anything Trump wants, I got some pushback. That’s a diversity of opinion.

what you are saying is that young acolytes of the richest man in the world should get a pass for things my kids would get fired for. That’s not a diversity of opinion. That’s special treatment for the powerful and well connected.

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Looks like someone is fucking around with this cybertruck ... obviously driven by a Musk DOGE fascist fanboy.

 

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2 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

Well I don't want that. But then I don't really want these weird guys accountable to nobody I elected having tons of power in the country. I think there is a middle ground between political prison and vast unaccountable political power.

But remember Vivek Ramaswamy was supposed to be the co-head of this operation but he got booted because he brown said something people didn't like. Seems like he was censored.

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This reporter fucks

I’ve seen this same post - but I’ve yet to see evidence that this exchange actually happened. I’d love to see video if it exists.


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