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  On 2/22/2025 at 10:43 PM, 956 Worldwide said:

Cross posting from the DT Elon thread.

Screenshots of the email itself are circulating and the “failure to respond” ultimatum is not in there. Unsurprisingly since it’s established law that federal employee resignations have to be voluntary.  I’d not open the email and just wait for any actual agency guidance.  OPM has no authority to fire or accept resignations except for OPM employees. 
 

 

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trunp's word is the law, in case you didn't know 

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  On 2/22/2025 at 9:57 PM, Pato del Muerto said:

It’s foolproof, since work product certainly never varies week to week so people that didn’t have a busy week that week for sure are not needed, and those they were very busy that week are for sure in dispensable. 

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I had a federal holiday and two snow days where work was closed.  I'm fucked.

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What happens when the federal workforce all at once says fuck off. I know, no way it happens but what an ultimate back fire if they push it to that point. 

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  On 2/23/2025 at 3:25 AM, bluto said:

What happens when the federal workforce all at once says fuck off. I know, no way it happens but what an ultimate back fire if they push it to that point. 

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Then institutional knowledge of a lot of small things goes away. I am starting to see it.

The amount of government friends updating their linkedin, asking to be a reference is real. They will jump to the private sector tomorrow. In my line the USAID people already have.

Was on a call about that today. Company needs people who understand complex logistics. Lets go find the ex-USAID food/medicine people. Get them before the churches do.

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  On 2/23/2025 at 12:00 PM, 956 Worldwide said:

The more I ponder on it, the more I think Elon should fire a bunch of spooks, hackers, cops, detectives, finance investigators, administrators and former soldiers who know each other. Probably all at the same time and be really condescending about it so they’re all stewing together  in collective anger. 

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  On 2/23/2025 at 12:00 PM, 956 Worldwide said:

The more I ponder on it, the more I think Elon should fire a bunch of spooks, hackers, cops, detectives, finance investigators, administrators and former soldiers who know each other. Probably all at the same time and be really condescending about it so they’re all stewing together  in collective anger. 

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So announce it so that the people collecting these fraudulent paychecks can log in to make up 5 things in an email?

but do these jobs not have supervisors that might notice a lack of work product from their report?

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Posted
  On 2/23/2025 at 6:55 PM, Pato del Muerto said:

So announce it so that the people collecting these fraudulent paychecks can log in to make up 5 things in an email?

but do these jobs not have supervisors that might notice a lack of work product from their report?

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Yeah but did you stop to think that maybe those supervisors are non-existent or dead people too?

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  On 2/23/2025 at 7:05 PM, Colonel Sanders said:

Has DOGE presented any fraud to date in any of the databases/ agencies that they are "investigating".  If so, I haven't seen it.  Of couse, not inluding the fraud that is DOGE itself. 

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They aren’t looking for fraud, they’re looking for stuff they can run through AI and then call “fraud” on Twitter.  
 

The “copy supervisor” is interesting because with that DOGE can map out reporting structures, staffing patterns, and sub-units again, via AI.  All that exists at the agency level but doesn’t exist in a consolidated space on an unsecured server at OPM because it is a counter-intelligence nightmare.

This whole exercise is a counter-intelligence nightmare. Even Kash Patel intervened to tell the FBI “don’t think about it.” 

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We have a bunch of olds and drunks in washington and on the supreme court, and representatives who fail to do what is in the best interest of their constituents, failed to honor their oath, and failed to live up to their obligations, but none of that was unknown.    The fraud is their livelihood.  

 

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  On 2/23/2025 at 7:11 PM, 956 Worldwide said:

They aren’t looking for fraud, they’re looking for stuff they can run through AI and then call “fraud” on Twitter.  
 

The “copy supervisor” is interesting because with that DOGE can map out reporting structures, staffing patterns, and sub-units again, via AI.  All that exists at the agency level but doesn’t exist in a consolidated space on an unsecured server at OPM because it is a counter-intelligence nightmare.

This whole exercise is a counter-intelligence nightmare. Even Kash Patel intervened to tell the FBI “don’t think about it.” 

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This. What is secure is not always the information, but the people behind it. When State and the FBI say nope it tells you something.

 

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  On 2/23/2025 at 7:30 PM, InkaUtexas said:

This. What is secure is not always the information, but the people behind it. When State and the FBI say nope it tells you something.

 

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Office of the Secretary of Defense also said not to respond.  All of DoD sending what they do and who they report to via the unclassified system, what could go wrong!

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Does our current president who is so concerned with fraud still owe the state of New York half a billion dollars, because.... fraud? 

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Posted
  On 2/23/2025 at 7:05 PM, Colonel Sanders said:

Has DOGE presented any fraud to date in any of the databases/ agencies that they are "investigating".  If so, I haven't seen it.  Of couse, not inluding the fraud that is DOGE itself. 

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Many people are saying there is rampant fraud. Not by us, though. It's the other people committing it. DEFINITELY not us.

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So, running the numbers.  3 million feds.  Average salary of 106k per year (54.36 per hour). 90 cents per minute. 
 

One minute to read the email, five minutes to draft a response on average (Elon’s best guess on X). DOGE costs the government about 14.5 million in duplicative performance management processes not including the time spent by various employees figuring out WTF is even required. 

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Since a group of hacker teenagers now have access to all our social security numbers and financial records, Im looking to lock my family members credit access. Anyone doing anything else to protect themselves?

Posted
  On 2/23/2025 at 7:05 PM, Colonel Sanders said:

Has DOGE presented any fraud to date in any of the databases/ agencies that they are "investigating".  If so, I haven't seen it.  Of couse, not inluding the fraud that is DOGE itself. 

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Has DOGE presented any fraud to date in any of the databases/ agencies that they are "investigating". 

TRump:  "Yes"

 

If so, I haven't seen it.

TrUmP:  "you must be stupid"

 

Of couse, not inluding the fraud that is DOGE itself. 

TRuMp:  "men don't play women's basketball anymore"

 

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  On 2/23/2025 at 7:30 PM, InkaUtexas said:

This. What is secure is not always the information, but the people behind it. When State and the FBI say nope it tells you something.

 

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This. When I used to do pen testing, gathering organizational structure along with contact information was one of the first things I targeted.

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You should always have your credit file locked with the three credit bureaus.  And you have to do so directly, but the National Public Data breach has likely already distributed your SSN and PII to the dark web.  Our distrust of these bureaus was justified with the Equifax breach of 2017, and the lack of our inept Congress to enact harsher penalties or any form of Federal Data Privacy legislation.

Since Congress willfully allows the private sector to market our data for-profilt, I also suggest maintaining the top-level feature set of Optery or DeleteMe, to let their automation keep your E-mail, phone number, and mailing address out of these databrokers.  The least-expensive and hands-off service is EasyOptOuts, as a $20 annual subscription.

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  On 2/24/2025 at 12:44 AM, SaucyJack said:

Has DOGE presented any fraud to date in any of the databases/ agencies that they are "investigating". 

TRump:  "Yes"

 

If so, I haven't seen it.

TrUmP:  "you must be stupid"

 

Of couse, not inluding the fraud that is DOGE itself. 

TRuMp:  "men don't play women's basketball anymore"

 

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  On 2/23/2025 at 12:00 PM, 956 Worldwide said:

The more I ponder on it, the more I think Elon should fire a bunch of spooks, hackers, cops, detectives, finance investigators, administrators and former soldiers who know each other. Probably all at the same time and be really condescending about it so they’re all stewing together  in collective anger. 

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the nsa said no - combined with kash qanon patel saying no - started a wave of fuck-yous to dotard & musk - the noaa & epa also said fuckyou today

shitgibbon is going to nuke montana tomorrow out of spite

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  On 2/24/2025 at 2:42 AM, Hagbard Celine said:

the nsa said no - combined with kash qanon patel saying no - started a wave of fuck-yous to dotard & musk - the noaa & epa also said fuckyou today

shitgibbon is going to nuke montana tomorrow out of spite

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State said no. USAID wanted to but they were already fired.

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  On 2/24/2025 at 12:39 AM, Horn Dog said:

Since a group of hacker teenagers now have access to all our social security numbers and financial records, Im looking to lock my family members credit access. Anyone doing anything else to protect themselves?

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Did the same. Froze my credit on all credit agencies but that may not matter anyways, since fraud is now the rule and not the exception. Also, who are you going to call if you’ve been defrauded? Defunded Consumer protective agencies and FDIC? 

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Posted (edited)
  On 2/23/2025 at 8:29 PM, Red Five said:

Does our current president who is so concerned with fraud still owe the state of New York half a billion dollars, because.... fraud? 

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Or his meme crypto scams?

Anyway am I supposed to believe a man who is somehow the richest dude in the world while the three companies he is CEO of are barely profitable hasn't committed any fraud? But he is sure that every middle class or poor person out there is a fraudster while he and his friends who are looting the economy have our best interests at heart. Oh and he only has his position because he bribed a corrupt politician.

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cnn reportingi all of these departments have told their people not to respond "for now"

fbi dhs dod state energy justice

unions seeing this as harassment

nsa noaa epa all known yesterday

remainder of the intelligence agencies also have to be in this camp - they can't disclose their classified activities

reuters says "Commerce, Justice, Education and Treasury departments, as well as the FDIC and NIH have not commented"

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/some-us-agencies-tell-workers-not-reply-musks-what-did-you-do-last-week-email-2025-02-23/



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