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4 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Also, Ryan Hall is live and looks like will be all night.

And then it is all going to flood.

I'm more of a Max Velocity guy. I can't get enough of that autistic weirdo pretending to be a meteorologist on YouTube.

Yesterday he cut to a friend who was giving damage reports, and the dude was obviously living in his childhood home with a small bed and a giant racecar on his wall. It was great.

 

I wonder how much he makes with a million subscribers on YouTube?

 

 

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28 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

I'm more of a Max Velocity guy. I can't get enough of that autistic weirdo pretending to be a meteorologist on YouTube.

Yesterday he cut to a friend who was giving damage reports, and the dude was obviously living in his childhood home with a small bed and a giant racecar on his wall. It was great.

 

I wonder how much he makes with a million subscribers on YouTube?

 

 

They just showed him!

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2 minutes ago, bolverk said:

They just showed him!

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My man!

 

You know the internet and the way unfiltered information is destroying society will probably be the death of us all, but for those of us that enjoy high art there is nothing that can compare to the beauty that masterpieces like Meteorologist Jonathon McGuffin bring to the world. 

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Driving in the car, the NPR news referred to Musk's efforts as work of the Department of Government Efficiency. Please forgive my ignorance.

Is there legally such a thing as this "department?" Has Musk become an official government employee or appointee? 

If not, what the fuck is a news organization calling a bogus department a fucking department? If musk and his merry band of fuckwads aren't actually a department, a news organization calling them such becomes a big part of the problem.

Again, maybe I'm ignorant of developments, but have not heard that a department had been created.

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15 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Driving in the car, the NPR news referred to Musk's efforts as work of the Department of Government Efficiency. Please forgive my ignorance.

Is there legally such a thing as this "department?" Has Musk become an official government employee or appointee? 

If not, what the fuck is a news organization calling a bogus department a fucking department? If musk and his merry band of fuckwads aren't actually a department, a news organization calling them such becomes a big part of the problem.

Again, maybe I'm ignorant of developments, but have not heard that a department had been created.

My best understanding is that he, by decree, renamed and repurposed an existing entity (US Digital Services) to become the United States DOGE Service (still technically USDS but now with DOGE!!!), within which the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) now resides. But, yes, the Regime has been really cagey about the status of DOGE employees.

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3 minutes ago, bolverk said:

My best understanding is that he, by decree, renamed and repurposed an existing entity (US Digital Services) to become the United States DOGE Service (still technically USDS but now with DOGE!!!), within which the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) now resides. But, yes, the Regime has been really cagey about the status of DOGE employees.

Also, isn't the meme and memecoin pronounced doggy?  Shouldn't we give it the full measure of stupidity by pronouncing it doggy instead of an Italian word for duke?

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3 minutes ago, bolverk said:

My best understanding is that he, by decree, renamed and repurposed an existing entity (US Digital Services) to become the United States DOGE Service (still technically USDS but now with DOGE!!!), within which the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) now resides. But, yes, the Regime has been really cagey about the status of DOGE employees.

Are their lawyers still claiming Musk has nothing to do with DOGE?

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1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

Also, isn't the meme and memecoin pronounced doggy?  Shouldn't we give it the full measure of stupidity by pronouncing it doggy?

No idea. That's a question for the weirdos that have kept the CRYPTO!!! thread going.

Btw, DOGE does apparently have a .gov website: https://doge.gov/ for whatever that's worth as a signifier of official existence.

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5 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Are their lawyers still claiming Musk has nothing to do with DOGE?

That whole Appointments Clause and who is an "officer of the United States" can be pesky as fuck with new agencies.  I think he's clearly wieliding the authority of an officer of the United States, without benefit of appointment on advice and consent of the Senate.

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I don't think it's an accident that Doge already has a meaning that seems fitting. It's an Italian term:

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The Doge of Venice (/doʊdʒ/ DOHJ)[2][a] – in Italian, Doge di Venezia [ˈdɔːd͡ʒe di veˈnett͡sja] – was the doge or highest role of authority within the Republic of Venice (697–1797).[3] The word Doge derives from the Latin Dux, meaning 'leader', and Venetian Italian dialect for 'duke', highest official of the republic of Venice for over 1,000 years.[4] In standard Italian, the cognate is duce (/duːtʃeɪ/ DOO-chay, Italian: [ˈduːt͡ʃe]), one of National Fascist Party leader Benito Mussolini's titles.

Originally referring to any military leader, it became in the Late Roman Empire the title for a leader of an expeditionary force formed by detachments (vexillationes) from the frontier army (limitanei), separate from, but subject to, the governor of a province, authorized to conduct operations beyond provincial boundaries.

The Doge of Venice acted as both the head of state and head of the Venetian oligarchy. Doges were elected for life through a complex voting process.[5]

I recall hearing the word visiting Italy when I was a young man. It's the first thing I thought of when Musk assumed the position of chief oligarch and shadow head of government.

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6 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

 

I wouldn't worry about it. The party of personal freedom and limited government is in charge, so I'm sure they'll put a stop to this.

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10 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

I don't think it's an accident that Doge already has a meaning that seems fitting. It's an Italian term:

I recall hearing the word visiting Italy when I was a young man. It's the first thing I thought of when Musk assumed the position of chief oligarch and shadow head of government.

The sad part is...I think it absolutely is an accident. It is obviously a really lame internet meme.

But the fact it could also work as a fascist dictator name by referencing the oligarchy that ruled the Republic of Venice is a nice coincidence. 

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Don't worry folks, as soon as all our bank accounts are emptied and used to balance the budget everything will be fine.  As to next year's budget, rest assured Mush will take care of it.

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7 hours ago, Firemans4Horn said:

The pillars of our democracy are in the process of being destroyed by racist, megalomaniac, technocrat grifters. 
 

 

Hey, maybe they'll fuck something up and accidentally cancel all of our mortgages. 

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2 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

So it looks like we will all be withdrawing all of our cash, burying it in the backyard, and getting by on prepaid debit cards shortly.


The Crypto President

By destroying the economy and the faith in the USD. 

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6 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

Hey, maybe they'll fuck something up and accidentally cancel all of our mortgages. 

As I paid off my mortgage in anticipation of this economic shitshow of uncertainty, there’s a chance it might happen.

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7 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

As I paid off my mortgage in anticipation of this economic shitshow of uncertainty, there’s a chance it might happen.

Thank you for your sacrifice.

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What could possibly go wrong.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/10/us/politics/migrants-deport-social-security-doge.html?unlocked_article_code=1.-k4.T5Nf.m-Dm8UB0A62d&smid=nytcore-ios-share

 

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Since taking office, the Trump administration has moved aggressively to revoke the temporary legal status of hundreds of thousands of immigrants who were allowed into the country under President Joseph R. Biden Jr.

Now, the administration is taking drastic steps to pressure some of those immigrants and others who had legal status to “self-deport” by effectively canceling the Social Security numbers they had lawfully obtained, according to documents reviewed by The New York Times and interviews with six people familiar with the plans.

 

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The goal is to cut those people off from using crucial financial services like bank accounts and credit cards, along with their access to government benefits.

The effort hinges on a surprising new tactic: repurposing Social Security’s “death master file,” which for years has been used to track dead people who should no longer receive benefits, to include the names of living people who the government believes should be treated as if they are dead. As a result of being added to the death database, they would be blacklisted from a coveted form of identity that allows them to make and spend money.

 

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The initial names are limited to people the administration says are convicted criminals and “suspected terrorists,” the documents show. But officials said the effort could broaden to include others in the country without authorization.

Their “financial lives,” the Social Security Administration’s acting commissioner, Leland Dudek, wrote in an email to staff, would be “terminated.”

 

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The move is the latest in an extraordinary series of actions by the Trump administration, pushed by Elon Musk and the Department of Government Efficiency to harness personal data long considered off limits to immigration authorities in order to advance President Trump’s vision for a mass migrant crackdown. This week, several top officials at the Internal Revenue Service moved to resign after the tax agency said it would help locate undocumented immigrants.

In another previously unreported development, Mr. Dudek in February reached an agreement with the Department of Homeland Security that would provide the last known addresses of 98,000 people to Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the federal agency responsible for deporting undocumented immigrants, other documents and interviews show. Personal information held by Social Security had been closely guarded under previous administrations, according to 12 current and former officials who said the agency had not engaged in such widespread data sharing with immigration authorities before.

By using Social Security data to blacklist immigrants, the administration is conscripting a broadly popular agency — one that exists to send benefits primarily to retired Americans and people with disabilities — in its effort to unwind what Mr. Trump has derided as the “open border” policies of his Democratic predecessor.

The new enforcement role for Social Security is raising fears that faulty data could result in people, including American citizens, mistakenly or improperly being placed on the list, upending their financial lives, according to interviews with current and former employees.

“Immigration enforcement is not within the scope of the Social Security Administration,” said Jason Fichtner, who held several senior positions at Social Security, where he was appointed by President George W. Bush. “The potential for errors can be very consequential.”

Elizabeth Huston, a White House spokeswoman, said the changes at Social Security would help advance the president’s immigration goals. “President Trump promised mass deportations, and by removing the monetary incentive for illegal aliens to come and stay, we will encourage them to self-deport,” she wrote in a statement. “He is delivering on his promise he made to the American people.”

Many changes at the Social Security Administration are being driven by Mr. Musk, who has spouted unfounded conspiracy theories about fraud perpetrated by undocumented immigrants, and about the agency sending billions of dollars to dead people. Mr. Trump has picked up many of those claims.

The billionaire, a top adviser to Mr. Trump, has also said without evidence that Democrats used the agency to grant immigrants Social Security numbers, making them eligible for benefits that kept them in the United States so they could shift the country’s demographics.

At the same time, Mr. Musk’s DOGE team has targeted the Social Security agency for cuts, alarming beneficiaries. Staff reductions have hobbled some local field offices, and recipients say it has become harder to receive services. Now, under Mr. Trump, the agency is taking on an additional mission of immigration enforcement, including those who entered under the Biden administration, according to a senior White House official not authorized to speak publicly. Mr. Biden allowed many migrants to enter the country temporarily as a way to incentivize them to avoid crossing the border country illegally. Those people became eligible to work in the United States, receive Social Security numbers and in some cases receive federal benefits.

More than 500,000 migrants from Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela and Haiti came under one of the so-called parole programs during the Biden administration that allowed them to fly into the country, if they had financial sponsors and passed security checks. Another 900,000 migrants used CBP One, a phone application used by the Biden administration, to enter at ports of entry and were given the opportunity to remain and work in the United States.

The Trump administration has targeted both programs. The program allowing migrants to fly in is scheduled to end later this month — and with it legal status for migrants already here, pending court challenges. Trump administration officials have also begun to revoke the parole of migrants who entered with the app.

On Tuesday, Aram Moghaddassi, a software engineer working for DOGE, sent Mr. Dudek the first batch of names to be added: a list of more than 6,300 immigrants Homeland Security officials had identified as having temporary legal status but who were now either on what he described as “the terrorist watch list,” or had been flagged as having “F.B.I. criminal records,” the documents show. The people’s parole status had been revoked that same day, Mr. Moghaddassi wrote.

The list included a 13-year-old and seven other minors, raising fears inside the agency that it was overly broad, according to one person familiar with the list who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive information.

The White House official said that nearly 1,000 of the migrants had received federal benefits worth a total of roughly $600,000 before their parole was cut off, including Medicaid, unemployment insurance and federal student loans — an average of $600 per person.

Mr. Moghaddassi did not respond to a request for comment.

Although the agency has renamed the death list the “ineligible master file,” according to the documents reviewed by The Times, it has not developed a new way to mark people as being ineligible for benefits. For now the immigrants added are being given supposed dates of death, according to two people familiar with the process.

Martin O’Malley, who served as commissioner of the Social Security Administration under Mr. Biden, described the strategy as inhumane.

“It’s tantamount to financial murder,” Mr. O’Malley said.

Andrew Biggs, who served at the agency during the George W. Bush administration, suggested that such changes would help enact Mr. Trump’s immigration policy.

“If you favor immigration enforcement, this makes sense,” he said.

Trump administration officials have presented the change as a way to fight crime.

In a memo addressed to Mr. Dudek on Monday, Kristi Noem, the homeland security secretary, wrote that the plan would “prevent suspected terrorists who are here illegally” from accessing “privileges reserved for those with lawful status.”

She did not say how the administration was determining if someone was a “suspected terrorist.”

The Death List
The Social Security agency’s death list is one of its most important data sets. Officials maintain it by collecting death records from state health records, funeral homes and family members, with roughly 3 million new death reports added each year. That prevents improper payments from going out.

Officials also share that information with other federal agencies to ensure that people who are dead no longer get benefits. And the Department of Commerce sells a version of the list to banks, credit bureaus and other financial institutions that want to avoid operating accounts for scammers using stolen Social Security numbers.

Those who have been put on the list mistakenly while still alive have reported calamitous effects, such as having their homes foreclosed and bank accounts canceled. In order to be removed, they have to go to field offices to try to prove their identity, a process known internally as “resurrection.” But even then the problem can take months to fix, or longer.

The repurposing of the death list, as well as the agency sharing addresses with immigration authorities, could face challenges under the federal tax and privacy laws that govern the maintenance of Social Security data, according to former officials and agency experts.

“The Social Security Administration has a legal obligation to keep accurate data to administer its programs, and strict laws govern the use and exchange of that data,” said Kathleen Romig, director of Social Security and disability policy at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a left-leaning think tank.

Trump officials have said that they want to modernize the nation’s deportation system by combining sets of data held by different agencies that have long been siloed, part of a broader effort to link personal data about the public scattered across the government.

Documents reviewed by The Times show that DOGE is playing an important role in that process, including in the agreement to share addresses that was struck in February.

Under the terms of that arrangement, immigration officials agreed to send thousands of Social Security numbers to the Social Security Administration, which would match them with personal data and send back associated addresses.

ICE collects as much information as possible to target, surveil and detain undocumented immigrants, although addresses in their records can sometimes be outdated.

Mr. Dudek gave permission to DOGE engineers and ICE leaders to use his agency’s data for law enforcement, the documents show. Michael Russo, the Social Security Administration’s then-chief information officer and a member of Mr. Musk’s team, also asked for the information to be sent to D.H.S. urgently.

Neither agency would confirm if the data had been sent.

Social Security regulations state that the agency may disclose information for law enforcement purposes in certain circumstances, including when a person has been indicted or convicted of “violent crimes,” and to investigate entitlement fraud. During the first Trump administration, the homeland security department, which oversees ICE, also pushed for broad access to Social Security data, but was rebuffed based on privacy concerns, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.

Among the DOGE associates privy to the data-sharing agreement were Akash Bobba, a recent college graduate who gained access to the Social Security systems in early February, according to court records; Scott Coulter, who was named as Social Security’s chief information officer last month; and Marko Elez, an engineer who resigned from his government positions earlier this year after being linked to an X account with racist posts that pushed for immigration policies based on eugenics.

After Mr. Trump and Vice President JD Vance called for him to be brought back into DOGE, Mr. Elez was quietly rehired.

 

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So what’s the over/under until SS collapses? It’s clearly by design, so the lawsuits should be interesting, if we’re still doing that sort of thing.

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https://web.archive.org/web/20250404195913/https://www.wired.com/story/doge-department-of-veterans-affairs-ai/

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“I think we should consider removing Drupal as part of our workflow, and all content should just live in the codebase,” he wrote.

 

Sources say that the regular office administrators and health workers staffed at VA locations around the country are often the ones responsible for making sure that the content about their facilities are clear and up-to-date on their VA webpages. Instead of being able to log into the CMS and update the appropriate text or pages, Lavingia’s suggestion would mean they’d need to go into the actual code of the website to make simple changes. Any mistakes could break the sites, and one source worried that such a technical task would be too big of an ask for non-technical VA staffers.

 

“There's over 1,000 VA editors that work in the hospitals as administrators and other roles that update the websites for each VA medical center and hospital every day. They are not engineers, they barely can use a CMS at all,” says the second VA worker, who was shocked by Lavingia’s suggestion. “This guy is suggesting we move all 55,000-plus pages of live content into the code

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That contract has not been renewed and the same work is now being executed by 1 internal VA software engineer spending ~10 hours/week.” VA workers say they have no idea who the post refers to.)

 

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On 4/9/2025 at 11:37 AM, Valmy77 said:

The sad part is...I think it absolutely is an accident. It is obviously a really lame internet meme.

But the fact it could also work as a fascist dictator name by referencing the oligarchy that ruled the Republic of Venice is a nice coincidence. 

Almost like something a simulation would come up with just to fuck with us. 



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