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Top 5 Gangster Movies of All Time


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1) Menace II Society

2) Once Upon a Time in America

3) Casino

4) Goodfellas 

5) Dead Presidents (does this one count?)

 

Honorable Mention: The Departed

 

The Godfather is like the Lockhart BBQ joints of movies. Sure it was the original gangster movie and was good at the time, but goddamn it doesnt hold up. Once Upon a Time in America took the mantle, what, 10 years later ?

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11 hours ago, Helobious said:

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Holy living fuck at omitting Goodfellas. The Godfather is romanticized trash that portrays a sense of honor and order in the mafia that had no basis in reality. Goodfellas was the real deal.

1) Goodfellas

2) Blood In, Blood Out

3) Menace 2 Society

4) Boyz n the Hood

5) Scarface

Scarface top five but Godfather I and II are trash...ok sure...i assume you mean the Al Pacino version. do you even know that version of Scarface is a remake? 

 

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31 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

1) Menace II Society

2) Once Upon a Time in America

3) Casino

4) Goodfellas 

5) Dead Presidents (does this one count?)

 

Honorable Mention: The Departed

 

The Godfather is like the Lockhart BBQ joints of movies. Sure it was the original gangster movie and was good at the time, but goddamn it doesnt hold up. Once Upon a Time in America took the mantle, what, 10 years later ?

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18 hours ago, Celery Man said:

What the fuck is wrong with you people. It starts with Goodfellas.

 

honestly even Casino I’d put above The Untouchables.

 

3 hours ago, Celery Man said:

Donnie Brasco, Carlito's Way, A Bronx Tale - these all to me fall into the category of fun mafia movies that have really great mob movie scenes but also aren't actually great movies. "Now youse can't leave" "fuhgeddaboutit". I think Donnie Brasco is probably the best out of these and Lefty (and Pacino's portrayal of him) is a great mob character. He may be the best combination of.... he's not much more than a piece of shit thief scumbag and yet you can empathize with his plight, living the consequence of a lifetime of being a piece of shit. It's also interesting how much of the plot is relatable to corporate drones - he's got some ambition to be more than essentially a low level manager and it's never going to happen for him, and then he's getting batted around in a power struggle at the higher levels, his golden boy protege is ripped from him, it all blows up and they're going to chuck him out with the trash.

 

I'm coming back around on Donnie Brasco being a good movie. It suffers from being very late 90s.

I haven't watched The Untouchables in maybe 8 years or so but I remember thinking it was not nearly as good as I remembered it. It may also be just suffering from seeming very of its time.

Donnie Brasco is overrated tripe. I've tried to watch it 3 or 4 times in my life and have wound up finding better shit to do and never finishing it. That includes turning it off at least once and turning the tv over to a Chopped or something else like it. 

The Untouchables gets knocked because it's not off-broadway enough for a lot of you guys who fancy yourselves as enlightened movie critics. Capone beats the literal brains out of a guy with a baseball bat. Ness throws Frank Nitty off of a fucking building to his death (I know this factually didn't occur, but it's a satisfying ending). It's set in Chicago at Capone's height.

There are several iconic movie scenes and lines with great fucking actors in them - the blood oath scene with Costner and Connery; the mounty border raid "The surprise is half the battle." "Many things are half the battle, losing is half the battle. Let's think about what's the whole battle."; Ness confronting Capone in his hotel; and of course the train station with the stairs, the shootout, the stroller - "You got him?" "Yeah, I got 'em." .... "Take 'em." bang!

It's a movie about Al fucking Capone and Elliott Ness, was written by David Mamet, directed by Brian De Palma, and Connery won the academy award for Best Supporting Actor. It is about as gangster as a movie can get and it was really well done. 

I don't expect it to be in many gangster top 5's, but deriding it is silly.

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Also, for everyone who obsesses about Goodfellas being at the top of the heap, I don't even think that's Ray Liotta's best gangster movie.

Copland is one of the most underrated movies of all time. The cops were the gangsters, Harvey Keitel was terrific, a coked out Liotta was fantastic and Stallone was actually really good as the buffoonish foil to Keitel's menacing mob of miscreants. Oh, and DeNiro had an amazing scene while literally eating a sandwich and going on a tirade with his mouth full.

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13 hours ago, Carl Spackler said:

Any top 5 list of gangster movies that does not include Goodfellas, The Godfather, and The Godfather II is objectively wrong.

Surprised that Donnie Brasco and Eastern Promises have not at least been mentioned yet.

Yup.

Any serious person is just debating the final 2 spots.

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The Departed is a fucking incredibly entertaining film and I really couldn't care less about it's flaws.  It's pretty easily in my Top 5.

For me the hard part is Casino vs Scarface.  I'd probably go with Casino, just because Nicky Santoro is more or less the same character as Tommy DeVito, and I can't think of any other character deaths I've enjoyed as much as those two.  Plus, every douchebag I knew in college had a Tony Montana poster in their dorm room so I guess Scarface suffers the hit.

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I love the drift from subjective to objective in Surly discussions. 

It's stupid to think that there is a definitive top five of any genre. I enjoy reading everyone's choices. I'm reminded of movies that I've forgotten or never seen. 

The Untouchables was crap to me. Donnie Brasco is, to me, over-rated. I'm glad to be reminded of Carlito's Way which is really great.

Dillinger is inarguable to me as among the top five.

I'm not getting into a knife fight over any of it.

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Oh, and DeNiro had an amazing scene while literally eating a sandwich and going on a tirade with his mouth full.


Would have been totally justified if he'd received an Oscar for this and "yeww blewww it!" alone. Copland is a gem.

Some of y'all would benefit from checking out Noir Alley on TCM. Great fucking gangster films pop up all the time.

My only issue w/ The Untouchables is that Costner is the worst actor in every scene he's in except for maybe the 8 year old girl playing his daughter. That and the horribly annoying music score.
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9 hours ago, Celery Man said:

Don’t get me wrong because obviously the godfathers are a couple of the greatest all time films, but apart from sorta kinda the deniro bit of II they have nothing to do with the actual mafia. They were never any more honorable than Clemenza.

High level. Like a corporate entity, but with illegal murder.

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5 hours ago, GreenspointTexas said:

1) Menace II Society

2) Once Upon a Time in America

3) Casino

4) Goodfellas 

5) Dead Presidents (does this one count?)

 

Honorable Mention: The Departed

 

The Godfather is like the Lockhart BBQ joints of movies. Sure it was the original gangster movie and was good at the time, but goddamn it doesnt hold up. Once Upon a Time in America took the mantle, what, 10 years later ?

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56 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

One movie that's completely forgotten about is Road to Perdition.  I'll watch it maybe every 3 years and every time it's fantastic.

 

Shit man, good call.

I haven't watched that in years.  I have it on DVD somewhere.  Need to dust it off, but that movie absolutely blew me away in the theatres.

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