Brett Kavanaugh Confirmation Thread

[realgreggym 835]

41 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

You have a problem with it when it's true? You prefer lies?

You're not making a whole lot of sense.

Yes, again I have a problem when Ds have no problem with murdering children through partial birth abortion or when a child is born and immediately murdered. I have a problem when Ds keep poor minorities in economic and educational slavery. You don't have a problem with that?

[realgreggym 835]

48 minutes ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

Please tell me you didn't graduate from UT. Please. 

I was going to ask you the same.

[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

2 minutes ago, realgreggym said:

I was going to ask you the same.

[Bozo_Casanova 26472]

8 minutes ago, realgreggym said:

When Ds have no problem with partial birth abortion or murder when a child is born. When Ds force poor minority kids into horrible underperforming schools, etc. Thats when its true.

[Huckleberry 32861]

8 minutes ago, realgreggym said:

Yes, again I have a problem when Ds have no problem with murdering children through partial birth abortion or when a child is born and immediately murdered. I have a problem when Ds keep poor minorities in economic and educational slavery. You don't have a problem with that?

He asked you if you have a problem with Republicans accusing Democrats of those things. You're not really understanding the conversation, apparently.

[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

1 minute ago, Huckleberry said:

He asked you if you have a problem with Republicans accusing Democrats of those things. You're not really understanding the conversation, apparently.

Well it is swam, so....

[wildcat09 29354]

1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

 

This. Most of the Dems on the committee didn't even know about the allegation until Feinstein told them. The Republicans didn't come up with this letter in a day. They knew beforehand that this could come out. Either they knew because they had a mole in Feinstein's office (which would be hilarious), or they knew because Kavanaugh knew it was an issue that could come up and told them when they were vetting him. 

If he knew that it was an issue that could come up, that makes it much harder to dismiss.

[thrillhammer 683]

7 minutes ago, realgreggym said:

1)Yes, again I have a problem when Ds have no problem with murdering children through partial birth abortion or 2)when a child is born and immediately murdered. 3)I have a problem when Ds keep poor minorities in economic and educational slavery. You don't have a problem with that? 

1)are you a woman?  do you want your body affected for 9 months or possibly the rest of your life with a baby you don't want, and are likely not responsible enough to raise properly? have you heard about the country's, and the world's, overpopulation problem? we could debate this forever, as r's and d's have debated forever, and not reach an agreement or consensus.  so we could therefore send it up to the supreme court to decide, which they did, supposedly for forever.

2)this is bullshit and another republican fallacy.  this has never happened, and will never happen.  because it would be murder.  stop trumping about with your fake news.

3) this is also bullshit and also another republican fallacy.  conservatives keep spouting this line, and they are the only ones that believe it.  who's side were you on when we wanted a 40 hr work week, paid sick leave and vacation time, welfare, unemployment, healthcare reform, etc.  that's right, you were on the owners side, never the workers, never the common people, never the working class.  you want fewer regulations so corporate profit can trump the people and "keep poor minorities in economic and educational slavery".your voting record proves it  99.9% of the time who you side with.  big business over citizens.  the one vote you got right was integration and civil rights.

 

[Message Board User 12395]

There was more evidence in the UVA Rolling stone rape story and the Duke lacrosse story than in the allegation against Kavanaugh.

 

[GHOSTUSER 361]

3 hours ago, Longhorn94 said:

This isnt acceptable. Accepting it as part of the game and that both sides do it is HOW we got Trump. It wasnt like this before. It all changed with Newt and was made worse by Reid and then worse under the Turtle. We have to go back to a more civil time, where there are moral and ethical lines that neither side crosses, where there is civility and respect from and for both sides, where we value fellow Americans more than the fuckin Russians, where our politicians do their jobs even if that means losing an election, where we demand they do the right thing for us, our children, and our grandchildren. We can be better than this. We ARE better than this. You can be part of the solution or you can keep on with the BUT BOTH SIDES! and continue to be part of the problem. But most on this board, and most are former republicans, have had enough. No more. Fuck this shit. If you cant at the very least be a moral and ethical person then fuck you, you dont belong in office of public trust. FUCK BOTH SIDES bullshit. We are either going back to a more civil, ethical time or we are flying this bitch into the ground. 

You’re absolutely correct that regaining civility and compromise in politics would result in shit actually getting done again. It’s hard reading the newspaper and all the bullshit going on in politics.  It’s pathetic that in basically a one party state that we have in Texas that the legislature has repeatedly failed to address and solve one of the core items they are tasked with - funding public education. With respect to national politics, it’s too late, blood is in the water and we just have sharks swimming ready to devour. The only thing that would change it would be, God forbid, another national catastrophe where we are attacked. Reinstating the draft for 2 years of military or service to the nation would over time help things tremendously. Young adults from different backgrounds working together instead of being siloed in likeminded bubbles. Realistically, that’s not going to happen and it’s going to get even worse.  

[jimmyjazz 45960]

Good lord.  The Saudis flew 4 of our commercial jetliners into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and a field which resulted in a "we are the world" bipartisan reaching across the aisle in newfound unity . . . that lasted about a month.

There will never be unity in America.  Getting back to merely how fractured we were when I was born would be a giant leap forward, but that ain't happening either.

I'm just glad to see the left is finally learning that they must fight dirty.  I suppose that won't last long, though.

[hobbes2702 13035]

41 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

There was more evidence in the UVA Rolling stone rape story and the Duke lacrosse story than in the allegation against Kavanaugh.

 

You literally have no way of knowing this.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13512]

The Senate should pause to take stock of this accusation.  Now if the accuser isn't willing to give testimony outside of the letter she sent,  the Senate should move forward with a vote.

Now the problem is that the GOP does not want to wait under any circumstances.   Elections are in two months and the Senators up for election want to be home.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

2 hours ago, Nivek said:

Incorrect. The democrats punish and tear down their own. And they lose because of it.

Republicans will gleefully support child predators and racists while actively weakening the country to appease their russian bosses.

Republicans are the OU of politics.

Grand Dragon Byrd agrees.  

[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

12 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

The Senate should pause to take stock of this accusation.  Now if the accuser isn't willing to give testimony outside of the letter she sent,  the Senate should move forward with a vote.

Now the problem is that the GOP does not want to wait under any circumstances.   Elections are in two months and the Senators up for election want to be home.

But if this ties in with the $200k baseball ticket purchases.....

[GHOSTUSER 361]

31 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Good lord.  The Saudis flew 4 of our commercial jetliners into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and a field which resulted in a "we are the world" bipartisan reaching across the aisle in newfound unity . . . that lasted about a month.

There will never be unity in America.  Getting back to merely how fractured we were when I was born would be a giant leap forward, but that ain't happening either.

I'm just glad to see the left is finally learning that they must fight dirty.  I suppose that won't last long, though.

The unity lasted quite a bit longer than just a month. In my opinion, it lasted until the start of the Iraq War. I know firsthand because was one of the only posters on Hornfans who was against the war from the beginning and knew it was bullshit yet was hounded and hated for my opinion by all of the Hornfans/Shaggy cool kids cabal. There was a lot of groupthink back then. The unity would have lasted longer if we didn’t have an idiot of a President like W.

[DixonHur 11307]

20 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Grand Dragon Byrd agrees.  

Not sure why Byrd's KKK affiliation (he was never a Grand Dragon, by the by) is constantly used as some sort of "both sides" argument.

Yes, he was once a big ole racist, but he ended up being one of the more "black friendly" politicians in American history.  

[Jiggy-Z 3432]

54 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Good lord.  The Saudis flew 4 of our commercial jetliners into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and a field which resulted in a "we are the world" bipartisan reaching across the aisle in newfound unity . . . that lasted about a month.

There will never be unity in America.  Getting back to merely how fractured we were when I was born would be a giant leap forward, but that ain't happening either.

I'm just glad to see the left is finally learning that they must fight dirty.  I suppose that won't last long, though.

I am just mystified why things are so polar with the population. I'm pretty sure solutions to our problems can be had and that solutions could be agreed upon by about 80% of the population.  My only guess is that, in general, we are ignorant, and would rather feel better about ourselves than become educated and solve problems.

[Huckleberry 32861]

28 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Grand Dragon Byrd agrees.  

You know your position is relevant and current when your go-to reference has been dead for 8 years and the reference itself is over 65 years old. But to be fair, it is definitely more current and relevant than "Lincoln was a Republican!"

[Jive Turkey 12603]

6 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

You know your position is relevant and current when your go-to reference has been dead for 8 years and the reference itself is over 65 years old. But to be fair, it is definitely more current and relevant than "Lincoln was a Republican!"

I have no doubt we’ll be hearing “But Hillary” for the next 20 years.

[lemonlime 5503]

 

8 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

You know your position is relevant and current when your go-to reference has been dead for 8 years and the reference itself is over 65 years old. But to be fair, it is definitely more current and relevant than "Lincoln was a Republican!"

I don't think we've gotten to Chappaquiddick yet on this thread.

[Biff Tannen 45691]

5 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

I have no doubt we’ll be hearing “But Hillary” for the next 20 years.

It's crazy that someone who LOST is their go to argument for anything.

[High Plains Drifter 11050]

18 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

The trolls are out in force tonight.  It must be a full moon. 

Waxing crescent actually.

[David Dennison 18860]

2 hours ago, realgreggym said:

Yes, again I have a problem when Ds have no problem with murdering children through partial birth abortion or when a child is born and immediately murdered. I have a problem when Ds keep poor minorities in economic and educational slavery. You don't have a problem with that?

Well, that's not what happens, so . . .

[sheeeit 129]

2 minutes ago, Jiggy-Z said:

I am just mystified why things are so polar with the population. I'm pretty sure solutions to our problems can be had and that solutions could be agreed upon by about 80% of the population.  My only guess is that, in general, we are ignorant, and would rather feel better about ourselves than become educated and solve problems.

It really isnt that hard to understand.  The communications in the world are so different today than anytime before.  The 24 hour constant presence of media, both professional and amateur, is new.  There was no medium to get the news out in real time before.  Now there is.  

People havent changed.  We just never had a way for literally everyone to express their opinions in real time before.  There have always been crazies and zealots but they never had a platform before.  I read an article critical of D Fienstein and the article author quoted a few random twitter responses in support of his position.  That is just ridiculous.  It is like judging the UT fan base based solely on the tweets of the 5 most ignorant belligerent fans out of the million or more fans in total.

I really do not believe we are any different as a people today than we have ever been.  Imagine the internet and twitter during WWII or Vietnam or the Kennedy assassination or any major event.  The kooks would be out in droves spouting the worst things imaginable and making up ridiculous stories and generally fueling the fire.

 

As to your last point about actually solving the issues of the country as grown ups- the only way, imo, is strict term limits on representatives where not a single one is ever running for reelection while in office. 

[High Plains Drifter 11050]

2 hours ago, AtticusFinch said:

Not if you are poor.  Then you pay no taxes

Poors don't buy gas? Or register their cars? One of your fellow morons upthread just claimed that corps pass all their taxes onto the consumer. Poors don't consume?

[High Plains Drifter 11050]

58 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Grand Dragon Byrd agrees.  

Damn, pre-Trump you were better than FC. Now you have sunk to his level.

SAD!

[jimmyjazz 45960]

20 minutes ago, sheeeit said:

It really isnt that hard to understand.  The communications in the world are so different today than anytime before.  The 24 hour constant presence of media, both professional and amateur, is new.  There was no medium to get the news out in real time before.  Now there is.  

As is often the case, one must ask "what is the cause, and what is the effect?"

Did big business suddenly decide to go rogue and develop a bunch of binary media outlets to which the public responded, or did the public begin to polarize which big business reacted to?

The answer is usually "follow the money".  Alternatively, consider "supply and demand".  The technology which enabled the echo chamber media outlets is somewhat new, but the utilization of that technology for anything beyond cat videos and recipes almost surely was a response to demand. 

To be honest, I don't actually think it's that clear-cut.  It's my belief that the American public began to polarize, and technology started to surface which enabled small media outlets to serve those polarized demographics.  As time went on and what had been simply a mild explosion from over-the-air network TV programming to cable news suddenly morphed into a shit ton of cable news and syndicated radio.  Eventually fax, email and the internet started to become more widespread.  Small pockets of echo grew into bigger groups that self-reinforced, which attracted more providers, which drove more demand, and before you knew it, here we were, never to return.

Edited September 14, 2018 by jimmyjazz

[GHOSTUSER 361]

I am just mystified why things are so polar with the population. I'm pretty sure solutions to our problems can be had and that solutions could be agreed upon by about 80% of the population.  My only guess is that, in general, we are ignorant, and would rather feel better about ourselves than become educated and solve problems.

Politics has become a virtue signaling, identity defining exercise. Trump gave his supporters what they were craving. Someone to tell the Obama lovers to fuck off. We are at the end of history and it’s not what Fukuyama predicted with liberal democracy but rather tyranny. We are going to get both flavors on each side of the political spectrum - that’s what’s in store. It doesn’t matter if there are trappings of democracy with elections, freedom of speech, etc. Trump’s tariffs, Republican stacking of the courts, Warren’s legislation to impose quotas on the composition of the board of directors of large companies, EU regulations, progressive nanny state bs, etc. Americans need to divorce themselves from the reality of where we are now and what our enlightened forefathers created. Where in the Constitution did it fix the number of Representatives in the House? Gerrymandered districts that are created to burnish the power of the party creating them and not the public. The W.O.P.R. from War Games conveys my feelings on the state of our so-called democracy.:

 

[David Dennison 18860]

16 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

Politics has become a virtue signaling, identity defining exercise. Trump gave his supporters what they were craving. Someone to tell the Obama lovers to fuck off. We are at the end of history and it’s not what Fukuyama predicted with liberal democracy but rather tyranny. We are going to get both flavors on each side of the political spectrum - that’s what’s in store. It doesn’t matter if there are trappings of democracy with elections, freedom of speech, etc. Trump’s tariffs, Republican stacking of the courts, Warren’s legislation to impose quotas on the composition of the board of directors of large companies, EU regulations, progressive nanny state bs, etc. Americans need to divorce themselves from the reality of where we are now and what our enlightened forefathers created. Where in the Constitution did it fix the number of Representatives in the House? Gerrymandered districts that are created to burnish the power of the party creating them and not the public. The W.O.P.R. from War Games conveys my feelings on the state of our so-called democracy.:

 

We are not at the end of history. The liberal tyranny you describe is nothing more than run-of-the-mill regulated capitalism. No one on the left is calling for socialism. Americans don't even know what socialism is. From the perspective of the modern right, Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan were bed wetting liberals standing in the way of profit.

Edited September 14, 2018 by David Dennison

[GHOSTUSER 361]

12 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

We are not at the end of history. The liberal tyranny you describe is nothing more than run-of-the-mill regulated capitalism. No one on the left is calling for socialism. Americans don't even know what socialism is. From the perspective of the modern right, Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan were bed wetting liberals standing in the way of profit.

So you have no issue with the state of California mandating solar panel on the roofs of new homes to be built. Maybe I don’t want that shit on the roof of MY OWN HOME for aesthetic reasons. Is that freedom in your opinion? I find shit like that suffocating.  If I was a woman and had to deal with the anti-abortion bs statutes like Texas passed saying I had to look at an ultrasound before getting an abortion, I’d feel violated by the state about a procedure involving my own fucking body. I’m not deluded to think that the stink of tyranny doesn’t affect one side of the the entire shitty political spectrum. I’m not an idiot who thinks I’d be fine with dispensing with all government and that I could live without it. I’d rather it just do what it’s supposed to do and focus on infrastructure, education, public safety, etc and leave me alone as much as possible. If people in this country were serious about really changing things for the better, we’d see efforts to pass Constitutional amendments on a host of issues lie term limits and limiting money. No one really wants that. You need this bs system we have to beat the other team into submission. Voting still matters on the local level. Thinking you have any real impact on the national level is myopic.

Edited September 14, 2018 by Iconoclast Texan

[atomheartbevo 89675]

5 hours ago, EMAWesome said:

  When was the last time you heard a Republican member of Congress accuse Democrats of trying to kill people with their health care legislation?  Let's stick to proven facts, not accusations because we live in the Internet Age and any jackass can accuse any other jackass of anything today. 

When was the last time you heard a Republican member of Congress actually give a shit about poor people getting health care?

And by poor people getting health care, I mean something other than a poor person showing up at an ER because their kid has the flu.

[David Dennison 18860]

12 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

So you have no issue with the state of California mandating solar panel on the roofs of new homes to be built. Maybe I don’t want that shit on the roof of MY OWN HOME for aesthetic reasons. Is that freedom in your opinion? I find shit like that suffocating.  If I was a woman and had to deal with the anti-abortion bs statutes like Texas passed saying I had to look at an ultrasound before getting an abortion, I’d feel violated by the state about a procedure involving my own fucking body. I’m not deluded to think that the stink of tyranny doesn’t affect one side of the the entire shitty political spectrum. I’m not an idiot who thinks I’d be fine with dispensing with all government and that I could live without it. I’d rather it just do what it’s supposed to do and focus on infrastructure, education, public safety, etc and leave me alone as much as possible. If people in this country were serious about really changing things for the better, we’d see efforts to pass Constitutional amendments on a host of issues lie term limits and limiting money. No one really wants that. You need this bs system we have to beat the other team into submission. Voting still matters on the local level. Thinking you have any real impact on the national level is myopic.

I have no issue with California mandating solar panels on the roofs of new homes because I know that the legislators who came up with such a mandate are accountable to voters. 

 

[ndawg 1242]

11 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

So you have no issue with the state of California mandating solar panel on the roofs of new homes to be built. Maybe I don’t want that shit on the roof of MY OWN HOME for aesthetic reasons. Is that freedom in your opinion?

Building codes are ancient, and are well within the established authority of the government. If California elected a government that aims to be carbon neutral, a solar panel mandate is a completely legitimate usage of that authority.

How you feel about the aesthetics of your house doesn't mean anything to me, but your house's impact on our planet does.

[GHOSTUSER 361]

2 minutes ago, ndawg said:

Building codes are ancient, and are well within the established authority of the government. If California elected a government that aims to be carbon neutral, a solar panel mandate is a completely legitimate usage of that authority.

How you feel about the aesthetics of your house doesn't mean anything to me, but your house's impact on our planet does.

And solar panels are the only way to be carbon neutral? I’m a farmer and have a wind turbine providing my needs. This is not a fucking building code for safety. It’s a fucking mandate. The state knows better than you. What about my example about the woman wanting an abortion and have to put up with bullshit I cited. If you can’t see the same oppressive line of thinking then I don’t know what to say

[ndawg 1242]

6 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

And solar panels are the only way to be carbon neutral? I’m a farmer and have a wind turbine providing my needs. This is not a fucking building code for safety. It’s a fucking mandate. The state knows better than you.

I'm not arguing that a solar panel mandate is the best possible means of accomplishing the goal of carbon neutrality, just that your civil liberties aren't being encroached by it. There is absolutely nothing about this mandate that suggests the government believes it knows any more than anybody else about the best way to power their home. The goal is to wean the power grid off of fossil fuels. If you've got wind turbines, adding solar panels will increase what you can contribute to the grid.

6 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

What about my example about the woman wanting an abortion and have to put up with bullshit I cited. If you can’t see the same oppressive line of thinking then I don’t know what to say

The aim of the legislation in question is to obstruct abortions, which constitutes the infringing of women's personal liberties. As such, it is completely wrong and should be stopped. You are able to compare the two, and while there are some similarities, you also seem unable (or unwilling) to also contrast the two. Building codes are not the same thing as reproductive rights, they're entirely different contexts. Building a house requires not only extracting a ton of limited planetary resources, but it also ties up land usage indefinitely in a way that has a tangible ongoing environmental impact. I don't know what to tell you if you can't see the differences as well as the similarities... those differences are why pie-in-the-sky fantasies like libertarianism don't actually work. There's always a tension between personal liberty and public good. Each issue, whether it's abortions or building codes, demands a far richer perspective than you're applying here. There isn't some grand unified theory that we can categorically apply to every issue and come out with the most sensible policy. Governing is hard.

[David Dennison 18860]

47 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

And solar panels are the only way to be carbon neutral? I’m a farmer and have a wind turbine providing my needs. This is not a fucking building code for safety. It’s a fucking mandate. The state knows better than you. What about my example about the woman wanting an abortion and have to put up with bullshit I cited. If you can’t see the same oppressive line of thinking then I don’t know what to say

If voters don't like it, they can change it.

[Mdhorn 5949]

3 hours ago, Johnny Sack said:

Grand Dragon Byrd agrees.  

Is he still alive or are you going to ride this outlier the rest of your life to justify all of the abuses of your party?  I'm saying this because he didn't really get out much later.  I knew his staff and they were pretty damn strong--like weekend at Bernies good.  But as long as you have that one guy, it'll justify Russia and whatever Mafia boss crime they commit now. Literally, when the Democrats flipped to Republicans due to civil rights, Byrd just stayed on.  

Edited September 14, 2018 by Mdhorn

[AtticusFinch 155]

2 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

Poors don't buy gas? Or register their cars? One of your fellow morons upthread just claimed that corps pass all their taxes onto the consumer. Poors don't consume?

They dont pay an income tax.  If you want to eliminate that and put in place a consumption tax I'm all for it.

[David Dennison 18860]

23 minutes ago, AtticusFinch said:

They dont pay an income tax.  If you want to eliminate that and put in place a consumption tax I'm all for it.

So you resent the poor because they don't pay federal income tax.

Good grief.

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3868]

If the Rs push Kavanaugh though without a transparent investigation into this accusation they either know Congress is lost or they are really stupid as it will fuel most women that have ever used #metoo to go out and vote against them. 

[Biff Tannen 45691]

1 hour ago, AtticusFinch said:

They dont pay an income tax.  If you want to eliminate that and put in place a consumption tax I'm all for it.

That's really weird that federal withholding comes out of their paychecks then.  Does their refund exactly equal the total amount that was taken out of their checks?

 

 

Narrator: it doesn't.

[ndawg 1242]

10 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

That's really weird that federal withholding comes out of their paychecks then.  Does their refund exactly equal the total amount that was taken out of their checks?

 

 

Narrator: it doesn't.

Also, so many people don't know the difference between payroll taxes (medicare/ss) and income tax. People who pay zero in income tax still give up ~7.65% of their income in payroll taxes.

[Post Oak 20217]

51 minutes ago, AtticusFinch said:

They dont pay an income tax.  If you want to eliminate that and put in place a consumption tax I'm all for it.

Does Trump?

[hobbes2702 13035]

3 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

As is often the case, one must ask "what is the cause, and what is the effect?"

Did big business suddenly decide to go rogue and develop a bunch of binary media outlets to which the public responded, or did the public begin to polarize which big business reacted to?

The answer is usually "follow the money".  Alternatively, consider "supply and demand".  The technology which enabled the echo chamber media outlets is somewhat new, but the utilization of that technology for anything beyond cat videos and recipes almost surely was a response to demand. 

To be honest, I don't actually think it's that clear-cut.  It's my belief that the American public began to polarize, and technology started to surface which enabled small media outlets to serve those polarized demographics.  As time went on and what had been simply a mild explosion from over-the-air network TV programming to cable news suddenly morphed into a shit ton of cable news and syndicated radio.  Eventually fax, email and the internet started to become more widespread.  Small pockets of echo grew into bigger groups that self-reinforced, which attracted more providers, which drove more demand, and before you knew it, here we were, never to return.

Don’t feed him.

[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

28 minutes ago, ndawg said:

Also, so many people don't know the difference between payroll taxes (medicare/ss) and income tax. People who pay zero in income tax still give up ~7.65% of their income in payroll taxes.

And every time they pay for gas, groceries, toasters, shoes.......

[burntorangebongos 10714]

If baseball ticket spending have anything to do with that guy involved, that ups the chances this is real. Also, it would be nice if congress, regardless of the party in charge was interested in being a functioning part of government and checking the executive branch. Fuck all the mother fuckers not doing their job.

[JimmyJames 12271]

I see that Johnny Sack of shit has sobered up again and is posting again. It’s early on a Friday night so maybe he’s just getting started and the fireworks are yet to come. 

Well Johnny, we all know that if  “grand dragon bird” was going to increase your bank account by at least two percent you’d vote him in as president, or better yet, dear leader supreme leader to the USA. Just go ahead and deny it or let us know whatever you’ve gotta say  and let the lolz henceforth come froth. 

[Pancho 44808]

What does it say about you and your party if you have to go all the way back to Robert Byrd to try to “prove” a point?

 

[Pancho 44808]