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2 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

by the way, i gave wildcat and iconoclast a timeout till friday at noon for their little exchange this morning, which seems like 6 months ago. yall try and keep the nastiness more generic, thanks.

Yeah that was pretty bad.

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5 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

I mean I appreciate the honesty, I guess, but the guy just admitted to sexually assaulting girls.

I'll bet you can see for miles on top of that high horse of yours.  I guess you're that one guy who never had one-night-stands with really drunk girls in high school and college.  THAT is what I admitted to, and yes, under today's standards that is considered rape.  I certainly didn't think it was at the time, but unlike others, I'm not going to act like it didn't happen.

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6 minutes ago, triplehorn said:

Is he really in Trump's' inner circle?  Because that very well could lead to worse exposure than anything.  You're either inside, or you're outside, and his bootlicking is beyond excessive. 

It appears Graham is more inner circle than any other senator.  And by inner circle, I mean very close to Javanka and Trump. 

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FondrenRoad

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25 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

So at 16 you would attend 10 parties where everyone knew women were being drugged and gang raped to fit in?

I certainly wouldn’t.  I might not have had the courage to report it.  But after the first gang rape I wouldn’t attend another.  Or 9 more like this lady alleges.   

And this lady is three years older than Kavanaugh.  Meaning he was 14-17 during the time period and she was 17-20.  

People are trying to malign me saying I’m claiming she deserved it.  Not at all.  If she’s telling the truth, string him up.  I just can’t get over going to parties ten times where gang rapes were happening.  It is hard to believe.  

Or perhaps while you were downstairs getting drunk and striking out, Blaine and Chet were up in Blaine's parents' room raping girls who were passed out.

You keep missing the point because your white male affluenza upbringing seems to prevent you from seeing anyone else's perspective, including someone who grew up with white female affluenza.

Consider it this way.

1) Girl has a set of friends she always hangs out with, and has teen angst just like every other high school kid.  Doesn't want to lose her friends.  Feels lonely even when around people.  (You know, just like Brett who made up quite a bit of shit in his yearbook signatures).

2) Girl goes to a party and drinks way too much.

3) Girl passes out and gets raped.

Here's what you miss.  First, the girl is ashamed of getting too drunk and putting herself in that situation.  That's the big one.  She thinks she bears some fault because she willingly got drunk and wasn't given a Bill Cosby cocktail.  

Girls' options:

A) File police report.  Tell her parents she's been getting drunk and high at parties, and that she got raped.  She may be ostracized at school and among peers (She'll think she will be whether she would have been or not).

B) Don't ever talk about it again.  Avoid the individuals who did it as best she can.  Keep her friends.   Go to parties, but keep her wits about her. Move on to college.

B is the easy choice for any assault victim.  Whether its Blasey Ford or Father Murphy and Johnny Sack.  Move on and bury your own embarrassment.

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Regardless of what happens is there any scenario where the process does not get uglier?  I don't think so.
I don't know how people can expect the other side to behave when they act so ugly.  Even on this board, where there are no real consequences, people act very ugly.  I don't see how it gets turned around.


1) Stop nominating rapists.
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Just now, DixonHur said:

I'll bet you can see for miles on top of that high horse of yours.  I guess you're that one guy who never had one-night-stands with really drunk girls in high school and college.  THAT is what I admitted to, and yes, under today's standards that is considered rape.  I certainly didn't think it was at the time, but unlike others, I'm not going to act like it didn't happen.

Well, it's not necessarily rape under today's standards.   Were they so drunk that they might not have been capable of consenting? 

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6 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

I'll bet you can see for miles on top of that high horse of yours.  I guess you're that one guy who never had one-night-stands with really drunk girls in high school and college.  THAT is what I admitted to, and yes, under today's standards that is considered rape.  I certainly didn't think it was at the time, but unlike others, I'm not going to act like it didn't happen.

I don't consider it a high horse simply because I have never had sex with a woman who was so drunk she couldn't consent and who then felt dirty and embarrassed afterward (your description).

As I said, I appreciate the honesty, but I don't think attempting to normalize that behavior is going to work out for you like you hope.

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Just wait,  30 years from now, assuming Congress is still around  USSC Justices are still confirmed by Congress, it’s not going to be about groping some drunken girl through her clothes. 

All those parents worried their sons might be falsely accused, but not checking their phones  

It’s going to be about 15 year-olds passing around nekkid photos of other 15 year-olds without their consent  

You know, child pornography. 

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Why would three women risk so much under penalty of perjury and of course outright public scrutiny for this situation?  Either they are telling the truth, one or more is true but one or more is false, or everything is false but possibly somehow they are getting some other type of motivation to come out?  It's hard for me to fathom that everything is a lie but on the other hand I can't see how much evidence might exist at this point now either absent corroboration.    

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24 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

It's called peer pressure you cro-magnon idiot.  Do you think these girls were telling their friends they got raped?  In HS the biggest concern is being accepted.  If you think a teenage girl, particularly an underclassman, is going to stay home watching M.A.S.H. reruns with her parents instead of going to a party with her friends, you're delusional.  She would convince herself that she was at fault and that she just needed to "be more careful". 

I mean, just look at your posts...it's 2018 and you're still blaming her for something when she was16 years old...how much shit do you think she would have gotten for coming out with this in 1982? 

Where's YOUR common sense?

She wasn’t 16.  She was in college.  She is three years older than Kavanaugh and graduated high school in 1980.  

Was Wooderson trying to fit in with high school sophomores?

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3 minutes ago, UTDD said:

Why would three women risk so much under penalty of perjury and of course outright public scrutiny for this situation?  Either they are telling the truth, one or more is true but one or more is false, or everything is false but possibly somehow they are getting some other type of motivation to come out?  It's hard for me to fathom that everything is a lie but on the other hand I can't see how much evidence might exist at this point now either absent corroboration.    

 

Attention whores, obviously. Or Soros money. Or both.

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I'm so fucking tired of this country.  Now apparently people are going through her tax records and claiming that a tax lein out there with her name on it is some sort of motive for these accusations.

And we still wonder why this stuff isn't reported.  

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4 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

This should be good. 

I wish, but it really won't. The Senate makes the decisions about Senate business and so the courts will rightfully refuse to even hear the case. Senate advice and consent should be completely independent of the Executive but that will never be reality as politics are purely party based. 

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I'm so fucking tired of this country.  Now apparently people are going through her tax records and claiming this the fact that a tax lein out there with her name on it  is some sort of motive for these accusations.

And we still wonder why this stuff isn't reported.  

This.

Every woman now knows that if you report an act of sexual assault by someone associated with those in power:

1) you subject yourself to possible criminal sanction (if you prepare an affidavit or testify)

2) your entire life and personal and professional reputations will be attacked and destroyed from every angle

3) you still probably won't be believed, and won't obtain any justice

 

Yeah, it's actually a wonder how any of these things are EVER reported.  A woman knows she is facing that gauntlet, and STILL chooses to come forward.....and the presumption is still that she's a liar, a whore, or both.  Truly amazing.

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4 minutes ago, retread said:

 

I know Avenatti is an asshat, but they took his client's information and questioned Kavanaugh on it without ever responding to Avenatti (her attorney). That seems a bit, uh, shady.

It also changes the timeline on the Kavanaugh calendar. He knew about the latest allegation when he released the calendar that has BEACH WEEK on it. Which, interestingly, is actually a note in favor of the calendar's credibility.

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4 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

what insight could Ted Cruz possibly have about goings on at high school parties

You'd be surprised what one learns standing in a bathrobe in the girls' hallway of a dorm, just watching... 

(https://www.thedailybeast.com/ted-cruz-at-princeton-creepy-sometimes-well-liked-and-exactly-the-same) 

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The details weren't even out yesterday. Let's have Judge testify.

I guess Grassley doesn't believe the testimony of this alleged eye witness is all that relevant.  Can't figure out why he would think that.

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1 minute ago, Huckleberry said:

I know Avenatti is an asshat, but they took his client's information and questioned Kavanaugh on it without ever responding to Avenatti (her attorney). That seems a bit, uh, shady.

It also changes the timeline on the Kavanaugh calendar. He knew about the latest allegation when he released the calendar that has BEACH WEEK on it. Which, interestingly, is actually a note in favor of the calendar's credibility.

I think the calendar is credible.  Mainly because I don’t think it helps him.  Or could help him.  

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I think the calendar is credible.  Mainly because I don’t think it helps him.  Or could help him.  

I gotta tell ya.....I can't even find the fact that someone maintained a calendar in high school credible.  I can't think of any guy I knew who did so.  Add to that the fact that he KEPT it for 30 years?  That's just amazing.  I mean, I'm sure there's something to look at and tell whether it really is 30 years old, and if it's true.....man, that's just WEIRD.

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3 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

I guess Grassley doesn't believe the testimony of this alleged eye witness is all that relevant.  Can't figure out why he would think that.

The questioning in tomorrow's hearing can only related to Blasey-Ford's accusations, not the others (Grassley's orders) - CNN

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