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I'm surprised Ford is actually testifying. If she across as credibly and sympathetically as say, Juanita Broderick, Kavanaugh is done.  Her written testimony is believable.  I don't know if it's true, but she doesn't come across as a crazy person.  I think that is all it will take. I don't like that as our new standard, but it's political reality.  What has been lacking until the last day or so was people telling their story under penalty of perjury.  We now have 2 people who have sworn statements before the Senate.  The 3rd accuser's story is sensationalized, but there appear to be at least some elements being corroborated.  She stated, for example, that at these parties the punch was spiked with grain alcohol and/or drugs.  Who didn't go to a college party where the punch had everclear added to it? It was expected.  Qualudes is a whole different thing, however.  Nevertheless, Mark Judges' girlfriend at the time appears to be ready to confirm that he told her about a time where a drunk girl pulled a train at a party.   Not exactly the same as gang-rape parties, and I think 98% of her story is bs, but 2% is enough to sink Kavanaugh, even if he was not directly involved.
We'll have the testimony today, but I expect we will be moving on to a new candidate afterwards.

You’ve shown to have a more open mind than most. I’m not sure I agree with the lamenting of a lowered standard but otherwise solid post. Pos rep.
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the thing though is that it's not a job as a truck driver, it's arguably the most important job in the world.  if you just used your intuition that the other checks must have cleared him for these allegations, that were not known at the time of those checks, and that that is good enough, it would be an indication that you are not qualified for your own job.

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8 hours ago, Johnny Sack said:

His life and reputation are completely ruined regardless.

If he did what is alleged, he deserves it and more. 

If he didn’t and this is just a last minute political hit job, this is a travesty.   

Bro, did you read his yearbook?  He was fucking around. 

And what are your feelings on it being revealed that he and other members of his school were publicly declaring that Renate lady to be the town bicycle?

That lady publicly endorsed him, only to find out he and the others were publicly saying she was a slut. So that stigma will now hang over her for the rest of her life.  When her relatives, friends, associates, etc. search on Google, that is what will pop up  

There are over 330 million people in this country. I’m fairly certain we could find a handful of candidates who were actually good people all their lives. 

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4 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Bro, did you read his yearbook?  He was fucking around. 

And what are your feelings on it being revealed that he and other members of his school were publicly declaring that Renate lady to be the town bicycle?

That lady publicly endorsed him, only to find out he and the others were publicly saying she was a slut. So that stigma will now hang over her for the rest of her life.  When her relatives, friends, associates, etc. search on Google, that is what will pop up  

her life and reputation don’t matter. 

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Been thinking some more about Dr. Ford's memory gaps. Honestly, when I recall wild shit at parties I can't recall many details around the wild stuff. For example, when I was 14 or 15 (not sure about the exact age. My reference point is that my brother was either a senior in high school or a freshman in college but I can't figure out which), he had some friends over, girls and boys. I had one friend there. It was at our house and my parents were out of town, but I can't remember why. I can't remember anything else about the day leading up to to the party. It was in the summer but I can't remember when.My brother gave me peach schnapps ( I had never drank before, so maybe that makes it more likely I was 14 but still not sure), everyone got wasted, skinny dipping happened (really cool when you're 14 or 15). I can remember the name of my friend there and that of one of the girls my brother had over. And vividly remember her swimming naked. No clue on the others though I know I could identify them at the time. No other details but I'm absolutely certain about the things I do recall. This is very similar to Dr. Ford's recollection and consistent with our understanding of memory in general. The gaps should not undermine her in any way.

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I tired of the complaints that life isn’t being fair to kavanaugh.  The senators should only care about being fair to the American public and putting a qualified candidate on the bench.   To me, kavanaughs main qualification was that he was a loyal soldier to the gop for a decade and was rewarded with a seat on the dc circuit court.  By the way, I still don’t understand his qualifications for his appointment to that court other than working in the WH.   Add these growing allegations, and he should be dumped.

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 Women saw her about face on him since he was a cruel dick  to her and it triggered memories of themselves or friends that got this treatment. Her reputation being stained by them was hurtful and her heartfelt pain of that resonated. "What goes through the minds of 17 year old boys to be so cruel?" Those 17 year old boys grow up to be cruel men if they are never disabused of their sense of entitlement. BK is the poster boy for those pricks.

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19 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

We’ll see about her testimony, so far she has been extremely vague not giving anything of substance.

Her opening statement has already been put online.  Her statement is very credible, and if she delivers it under oath Kavanaugh is done. The optics of the hearing today will cement the house, and put the Senate in play. 

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 Women saw her about face on him since he was a cruel dick  to her and it triggered memories of themselves or friends that got this treatment. Her reputation being stained by them was hurtful and her heartfelt pain of that resonated. "What goes through the minds of 17 year old boys to be so cruel?" Those 17 year old boys grow up to be cruel men if they are never disabused of their sense of entitlement. BK is the poster boy for those pricks.

This is why his past matters. Had he just been a drunk rowdy mean kid but no sexual assault allegations and he got it all straightened out fine. He didn’t. He’s doubling down on lies even today. He’s that guy still and NO I don’t want that man on the court. We’re getting a conservative that’s fine, at least make sure they are a decent human.
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Fun markets to watch today:

https://www.predictit.org/v2/markets/detail/4602/How-many-Yea-votes-will-Kavanaugh-receive-in-a-confirmation-vote-by-Oct-31

https://www.predictit.org/v2/markets/detail/4858/Will-Brett-Kavanaugh-be-the-next-confirmed-Supreme-Court-justice

Pre-hearing trading moving in Kavanaughs favor, but very thin volume. 

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8 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

Or maybe the Montgomery County Police Department, where the crime occurred and has the power to arrest the ones responsible and hold them accountable. This after all is about justice for the victims, correct? Dr. Ford has yet to file a report, why? She was apparently in the area when she took her polygraph.

 

It's hilarious you tards still stroke the FBI chicken, when according to Biden their reports don't mean shit, and they couldn't even figure out that Kavanaugh was the leader of Rape Pack '82 through 6 separate background checks.

Stop trotting out that background check crap.  That was explained pages ago.  Troll.

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12 minutes ago, horncyclist said:

Been thinking some more about Dr. Ford's memory gaps. Honestly, when I recall wild shit at parties I can't recall many details around the wild stuff. For example, when I was 14 or 15 (not sure about the exact age. My reference point is that my brother was either a senior in high school or a freshman in college but I can't figure out which), he had some friends over, girls and boys. I had one friend there. It was at our house and my parents were out of town, but I can't remember why. I can't remember anything else about the day leading up to to the party. It was in the summer but I can't remember when.My brother gave me peach schnapps ( I had never drank before, so maybe that makes it more likely I was 14 but still not sure), everyone got wasted, skinny dipping happened (really cool when you're 14 or 15). I can remember the name of my friend there and that of one of the girls my brother had over. And vividly remember her swimming naked. No clue on the others though I know I could identify them at the time. No other details but I'm absolutely certain about the things I do recall. This is very similar to Dr. Ford's recollection and consistent with our understanding of memory in general. The gaps should not undermine her in any way.

As a man trying to empathize, I see Dr. Ford’s memory similar to my memory going through a near death experience in a car crash.  I can’t remember the exact date or all the names of the people involved but the moment of “oh shit, I’m about die” and the details of vehicle coming at me is seared into my memory visually.  

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23 minutes ago, burntorangebongos said:

 Women saw her about face on him since he was a cruel dick  to her and it triggered memories of themselves or friends that got this treatment. Her reputation being stained by them was hurtful and her heartfelt pain of that resonated. "What goes through the minds of 17 year old boys to be so cruel?" Those 17 year old boys grow up to be cruel men if they are never disabused of their sense of entitlement. BK is the poster boy for those pricks.

Brock Turners grow up to be Brett Kavanaughs who give future Brock Turners slaps on the wrist for sexual assault 

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11 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

Amazing that a key player behind the Bill Clinton impeachment is very possibly going to lie under oath today about his own past sexual conduct.   This time, non-consensual. 

Even more amazing that such a serial rapist on the Starr staff was never attacked about any of this by Clinton's lawyers.

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8 hours ago, Celery Man said:

To people like you, but sure trot them on out. With Ramirez and Avenatti’s client and Judge and fuck it let’s just have an investigation.

You can't possibly think there is one iota of credibility with Ramirez or creepy porn lawyer's client can you?  Especially CPL's client.  Claims to go to party where guys are spiking drinks and running rape trains on women.  What does she do?  Does she go to law enforcement?  Does she go to anyone's parents?  No, she goes back to nine more of these parties.  Claims to tell women to avoid the punch.   If any of this actually happened she would have been telling those women to avoid the parties, not the punch.  If you believe any of this you are straight up either insane or an idiot with the critical thinking ability of a small rock.

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32 minutes ago, horncyclist said:

Been thinking some more about Dr. Ford's memory gaps. Honestly, when I recall wild shit at parties I can't recall many details around the wild stuff. For example, when I was 14 or 15 (not sure about the exact age. My reference point is that my brother was either a senior in high school or a freshman in college but I can't figure out which), he had some friends over, girls and boys. I had one friend there. It was at our house and my parents were out of town, but I can't remember why. I can't remember anything else about the day leading up to to the party. It was in the summer but I can't remember when.My brother gave me peach schnapps ( I had never drank before, so maybe that makes it more likely I was 14 but still not sure), everyone got wasted, skinny dipping happened (really cool when you're 14 or 15). I can remember the name of my friend there and that of one of the girls my brother had over. And vividly remember her swimming naked. No clue on the others though I know I could identify them at the time. No other details but I'm absolutely certain about the things I do recall. This is very similar to Dr. Ford's recollection and consistent with our understanding of memory in general. The gaps should not undermine her in any way.

I’ve been trying to test my memory of particular parties too.  Basically the same.  Id be able to identify my regular group of friends that went everywhere with me as present and the location if it was one of the regular spots.  Outside of that, probably nothing.  Where, when, who else, couldn’t come up with anything. 

So I try to think about ones where something “memorable” happened to see if I remember the specifics of that party more (I’ve not been sexually assaluted or anything so I don’t have something traumatic.). Nope.  

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4 hours ago, scottsins said:

 


Who gives a fuck? Swetnick did state that she saw BK in a line outside a room waiting his turn to run train on a drunk female.

 

Yeah, but does she know exactly how many people were in line and the color of the carpet? She has unpaid speeding tickets and her exes don't like her. She was drinking at the party. 

We can only conclude that she is an ebil lib who only cares about her team and hates America. Let's shame her not the sick fucks in the White House and being put on the Supreme Court! They deserve to be regarded as good men until credible evidence proves them otherwise. Their word is more valuable. Their integrity less questionable.

They're good Christians, even the salty sailors! They value family values as very valuable!

They're not entitled rich boys who think they can do anything. They'd never consider grabbing women by the pussy or laughing hysterically while terrorizing a teenage girl. Good men all!

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6 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

That makes no sense. 

It makes perfect sense.  Kavanaugh was on Starr's staff.  How much credibility could a special prosecutor investigating a sexual incident in the White House have if one of his staff members was going around raping every woman in Maryland when he was in high school?  Clinton's lawyers would have gone through every closet of every member of Starr's staff looking for skeletons and they would have paraded this one out for the media the second they got a hold of it if there was anything to this.

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Just now, EMAWesome said:

It makes perfect sense.  Kavanaugh was on Starr's staff.  How much credibility could a special prosecutor investigating a sexual incident in the White House have if one of his staff members was going around raping every woman in Maryland when he was in high school?  Clinton's lawyers would have gone through every closet of every member of Starr's staff looking for skeletons and they would have paraded this one out for the media the second they got a hold of it if there was anything to this.

No they wouldn't.   That's an absurd and unfounded assumption.   Which is only underscored by your gross exaggeration of the allegations against Kavanaugh.   

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9 hours ago, retread said:

If only there were an investigative body in the federal govt to sort all this out ....

So you want the same investigative agency that, if these accusations are true, missed all of this at least six times while previously investigating his background to investigate him again?  Wouldn't you want a more competent group of investigators doing this?

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Clinton's lawyers would have gone through every closet of every member of Starr's staff looking for skeletons and they would have paraded this one out for the media the second they got a hold of it if there was anything to this. 

This is really not solid reasoning. It's horseshit conjecture that fits your biases.

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14 minutes ago, EMAWesome said:

You can't possibly think there is one iota of credibility with Ramirez or creepy porn lawyer's client can you?  Especially CPL's client.  Claims to go to party where guys are spiking drinks and running rape trains on women.  What does she do?  Does she go to law enforcement?  Does she go to anyone's parents?  No, she goes back to nine more of these parties.  Claims to tell women to avoid the punch.   If any of this actually happened she would have been telling those women to avoid the parties, not the punch.  If you believe any of this you are straight up either insane or an idiot with the critical thinking ability of a small rock.

The reason I think differently about it than you is because I’m not a fucking idiot.

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10 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

Lying about something like that and inviting withering scrutiny from shitstains like you and trump is even more unbelievable to me than something like that actually happening in the 80s. 

Depends on how much Democrats have donated to her GoFundMe account for her legal defense.   I guarantee she is getting some kind of under the table financial compensation for whoring herself out to the Democrat Senators.  Yep,  I'll get a lot of neg reps for that statement.  Nope, I have no fucks to give about it.  Facts don't give a shit about feelings and the fact is her accusation would never make it out of a grand jury based on her statement.

 

While I'm on the subject of whores let's discuss Ford's attorneys. 

Ford's legal team every day since this first surfaced--"She passed two lie detector tests, she passed two lie detector tests, she passed two lie detector tests, she passed two lie detector tests, she passed two lie detector tests, she passed two lie detector tests, she passed two lie detector tests, she passed two lie detector tests, she passed two lie detector tests..................."

Senate Judiciary Committee yesterday-"Do you mind if we look at the charts and some of the video from one of those lie detector tests?"

Ford's legal team-"Why?  It isn't that big of a deal."

 

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11 minutes ago, EMAWesome said:

So you want the same investigative agency that, if these accusations are true, missed all of this at least six times while previously investigating his background to investigate him again?  Wouldn't you want a more competent group of investigators doing this?

 

38 minutes ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

Stop trotting out that background check crap.  That was explained pages ago.  Troll.

Sigh.

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1 minute ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

 

Sigh.

If their background checks can't turn up any of this stuff why in the fuck are we doing them to begin with?  What else are they missing?   If their background checks are this poor ISIS could get high level jobs in the federal government.

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Regardless of the outcome of these proceedings, I hope we can get a political consensus against the death penalty from all of the Republicans who now believe so strongly that victim/witness identifications are so unreliable.   If they're too unreliable to keep an accused off the Supreme Court, they should certainly be too unreliable to put an accused on death row. 

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1 minute ago, Buzzrock said:

If you want as unbiased a report as you’re gonna get from a guy in the room (and maybe the only one who was in the room for Anita Hill as well), Jamie Dupree is your man. Worth a like and follow.

http://jamiedupree.blog.ajc.com/2018/09/27/live-updates-from-inside-the-kavanaugh-ford-hearing-room/

Anyone know why the guy who was alleged to be literally in the room (Mark Judge) is not testifying today?  Anyone?

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15 minutes ago, EMAWesome said:

I guarantee she is getting some kind of under the table financial compensation for whoring herself out to the Democrat Senators.  Yep,  I'll get a lot of neg reps for that statement.  Nope, I have no fucks to give about it.  Facts don't give a shit about feelings and the fact is her accusation would never make it out of a grand jury based on her statement.

Negged for guaranteeing an obfuscation and probable lie. You deserve a cuff to the face for calling Dr. Ford a whore. You're somewhat revolting.

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1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

Her opening statement has already been put online.  Her statement is very credible, and if she delivers it under oath Kavanaugh is done. The optics of the hearing today will cement the house, and put the Senate in play. 

How is Kavanaugh done?  There are still 51 republican senators who will call her a lying librul whore and confirm him on Saturday.  It's gonna happen.  This is all just political theater.  

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