Brett Kavanaugh Confirmation Thread

[hayden_horn 11358]

1 minute ago, bad_teammate said:

Clarence Thomas should never have been confirmed. It's not "dirty politics" to let women speak out about their sexual abuse and harrassment at the hands of powerful men trying to get on the highest court in the land. Fuck you.

i think one of the most ironic things graham said after her testimony was "the democrats better watch out for their judicial nominees. this always happens to us, it never happens to them."

um, lindsay, buddy, your party has already had a terrible day. you're making it worse. how about you stop nominating guys with checkered sexual pasts? is it that hard? and if something comes up, you might want to pull the rip cord next time instead of crashing into the ground 9.8m/s^2

[Incredulity 11446]

Can a R troll Pelosi and drop;

"We have to confirm him to find out what his character is."

[hayden_horn 11358]

2 minutes ago, GSU&UT said:

Wait, his vote is scheduled for tomorrow?

yeah, they scheduled it yesterday or tuesday, i forget; there's too much news on a daily basis

[MonkeyDoughnut 10100]

1 minute ago, GSU&UT said:

Wait, his vote is scheduled for tomorrow?

Currently, but very likely will be at minimum pushed back as they won't have the votes... too many lean votes that might have gone along if Ford was not credible are no longer going to do that based on her performance

[threesheets 1651]

Hope these presidential hopefuls don't ultimately end up making everyone root for Kavanaugh.

[David Dennison 18487]

Just now, hayden_horn said:

yeah, they scheduled it yesterday or tuesday, i forget; there's too much news on a daily basis

Walk that plank.

[Horn Dog 9588]

4 minutes ago, MixtyMotions said:

Dirty politics to stop Robert Bork worked.

Dirty politics to stop Clarence Thomas almost worked.

Dirty politics to stop Merrick Garland worked.

Dirty politics to stop Brett Kavanaugh might work.

Expect more dirty politics.

On another note:

Assume for a moment that Brett Kavanaugh goes down, and Amy Coney Barrett gets confirmed.  Did the nation win?  I think both GOP and Dem interests lose.

 

Noticed a lot of talk about Bork being wronged on conservative channels lately.  Is this really a thing now?

[Nice Guy Eddie 13388]

My guess is that the Republican Senators will initially act pissed off at Kavanaugh and that his youthful partying and potential illegal acts have wasted the time of the US Senate.  Then they will let him convince them over a few hours that he is completely innocent and that Dr. Ford owes him an apology.   the world's a stage.

Edited September 27, 2018 by Nice Guy Eddie

[elfenix 34161]

Dirty politics to stop Robert Bork worked. Dirty politics to stop Clarence Thomas almost worked.

Dirty politics to stop Merrick Garland worked.

Dirty politics to stop Brett Kavanaugh might work.

Expect more dirty politics.

On another note:

Assume for a moment that Brett Kavanaugh goes down, and Amy Coney Barrett gets confirmed.  Did the nation win?  I think both GOP and Dem interests lose.

 

 

Robert motherfucking Bork, at the moment of the biggest decision he ever fucking made, and having the example of two people making the correct fucking choice, still chose the wrong fucking answer. He's not qualified to judge a dispute as to who should get the last donut in North Bumblefuck, Alabama., But no, it's "he was only sunk due to dirty politics." Fuck you Tahoe. 

 

 

[Lurch 5918]

Dirty politics to stop Robert Bork worked.
Dirty politics to stop Clarence Thomas almost worked.
Dirty politics to stop Merrick Garland worked.
Dirty politics to stop Brett Kavanaugh might work.
Expect more dirty politics.
On another note:
Assume for a moment that Brett Kavanaugh goes down, and Amy Coney Barrett gets confirmed.  Did the nation win?  I think both GOP and Dem interests lose.
 

I don’t know anything about Barrett, but assuming she’s not an attempted rapist, yes the nation clearly won. How is this even a question?

[Woodrow Call 494]

When is Lindsey Graham coming out of the closet? 

[Incredulity 11446]

Ginsburg didn't get on because he smoked some mary jane and wasn't shifty enough to claim he didn't inhale.

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2 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

That's the real Lindsey. The occasional sane, rational Lindsey is the exception to the rule. 

Is that the Lindsey Graham that was awarded a Bronze Star a few years ago?

[Lagunamadre 1975]

4 minutes ago, MixtyMotions said:

Assume for a moment that Brett Kavanaugh goes down, and Amy Coney Barrett gets confirmed.  Did the nation win?  I think both GOP and Dem interests lose.

 

The women of the nation won by believing they are not powerless in the face of sexual assault, and by not having to stare at 2 men credibly accused of sexual assault every time they see the justices. 

GOP still wins as Barrett will be nearly identical in Kavanaugh in her opinions. Roe V. Wade will be neutered, corporations will be extolled, the executive branch power will go unchecked, etc. etc. If the GOP is lucky they might even roll back rights for those gays. 

All in all, I'd say it's a win win or a lose lose depending on how you view that half empty/full glass.  

[David Dennison 18487]

Just now, Nice Guy Eddie said:

My guess is that the Republican Senators will initially be pissed at Kavanaugh and that his youthful partying and potential illegal acts have wasted the time of the US Senate.  Then they will let him convince him over a few hours that he is completely innocent and that Dr. Ford owes him an apology.   the world's a stage.

From a purely political standpoint, a vote either way on Brett Kavanaugh is going to end the careers of some of these Republican senators.

[thrillhammer 682]

1 minute ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

My guess is that the Republican Senators will initially be pissed at Kavanaugh and that his youthful partying and potential illegal acts have wasted the time of the US Senate. 

He should begin and end his speech with, "sorry for partying".

[Gil Bang 25843]

8 minutes ago, MixtyMotions said:

Dirty politics to stop Robert Bork worked.

Dirty politics to stop Clarence Thomas almost worked.

Dirty politics to stop Merrick Garland worked.

Dirty politics to stop Brett Kavanaugh might work.

Expect more dirty politics.

On another note:

Assume for a moment that Brett Kavanaugh goes down, and Amy Coney Barrett gets confirmed.  Did the nation win?  I think both GOP and Dem interests lose.

 

Take off the sock, donut boy. 

[hayden_horn 11358]

2 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

Noticed a lot of talk about Bork being wronged on conservative channels lately.  Is this really a thing now?

it's a weird hill to die on. it was a weird hill in 1987. this is the guy that helped orchestrate the saturday night massacre for richard fucking nixon. why on earth di they nominate his ass to the supreme court?

[threesheets 1651]

Fox upset that the prosecutor was too nice. 

[David Dennison 18487]

Just now, hayden_horn said:

it's a weird hill to die on. it was a weird hill in 1987. this is the guy that helped orchestrate the saturday night massacre for richard fucking nixon. why on earth di they nominate his ass to the supreme court?

He also got a vote.

He lost.

[DDD Dad 14144]

3 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

Noticed a lot of talk about Bork being wronged on conservative channels lately.  Is this really a thing now?

I felt like Bork did get wronged.  What does that have to do with this?  (Whataboutism)

[Bat Guano 359]

20 minutes ago, Lagunamadre said:

If, after witnessing all of that, all you've got is "who paid for the polygraph", which is like $500, then you are drawing at fucking straws. ESPECIALLY after her summa cum laude Harvard lawyer said he paid for it and does not need reimbursement. 

Lindsey Graham might be losing it quicker than Trump, and that is saying something. 

 

[hobbes2702 12769]

Are people really defending Robert fucking Bork?

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2 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

it's a weird hill to die on. it was a weird hill in 1987. this is the guy that helped orchestrate the saturday night massacre for richard fucking nixon. why on earth di they nominate his ass to the supreme court?

Because Nixon was not as much of a bad guy in the late 80s. 

[Gil Bang 25843]

 

[bad_teammate 13116]

Just now, hobbes2702 said:

Are people really defending Robert fucking Bork?

It has to be young conservatives. Can't have been politically conscious in '87 to feel bad for Bork.

[sachick 1189]

5 minutes ago, Woodrow Call said:

When is Lindsey Graham coming out of the closet? 

Just realized who Graham reminded me of jsut now,, Beverly Leslie from Will & Grace.

[Foosters 17688]

Am I the only one reading between the lines when listening to GOP politicians and conservative commentators and picking up the veiled threats that sexual assault allegations are going to be brought against any future dem nominee?

Like, wouldnt you want to keep that to yourself?

Edited September 27, 2018 by Foosters

[Incredulity 11446]

1 minute ago, bad_teammate said:

It has to be young conservatives. Can't have been politically conscious in '87 to feel bad for Bork.

Never can tell.  You were politically conscious during the fall of the Soviet Union, yet you think socialism works.

[Horn Dog 9588]

2 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

I felt like Bork did get wronged.  What does that have to do with this?  (Whataboutism)

Tahoe...I mean Mixty, said Bork being wronged by “dirty politics” is just like BK being wronged.  

I know I will regret this but, out of curiosity, why do you think he was wronged?

[David Dennison 18487]

Just now, Incredulity said:

Never can tell.  You were politically conscious during the fall of the Soviet Union, yet you think socialism works.

Scandinavia says hi.

Mixed economies, how to they work?

[Ghost of LL 15327]

1 minute ago, Horn Dog said:

Tahoe...I mean Mixty, said Bork being wronged by “dirty politics” is just like BK being wronged.  

I know I will regret this but, out of curiosity, why do you think he was wronged?

Bork was qualified for the Court.

But his participation in the Saturday Night Massacre was unforgivable.  I'm perfectly fine, in retrospect, with it not having been forgiven.

[DDD Dad 14144]

1 minute ago, Horn Dog said:

Tahoe...I mean Mixty, said Bork being wronged by “dirty politics” is just like BK being wronged.  

I know I will regret this but, out of curiosity, why do you think he was wronged?

Because I felt that at the time he was qualified as a jurist based on the expectations of qualifications for the court at the time.

He was rejected for his substantive views on hot button issues.  It is essentially the sea change that has generally changed the nature of advice and consent on the supreme court in most of our lifetimes.  

[HenryJames 65852]

 

[RomaVicta 29704]

5 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

 

Excellent. No more rep to give today.

On the polygraph questions, somebody on TV snorted and said, "I guess they're saying she's in this for a free polygraph test."

[DDD Dad 14144]

Also, what GOLL said.

He and I have discussed Bork many times over the years.

[yoladu 4063]

46 minutes ago, Mapache said:

 

Does Don Jr. think he is winning?

i don't understand why he continues to tweet.

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5 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Am I the only one reading between the lines when listening to GOP politicians and conservative commentators and picking up the veiled threats that sexual assault allegations are going to be brought against any future dem nominee?

Like, wouldnt you want to keep that to yourself?

Threats don’t work if the people you’re threatening don’t realize it. 

[hayden_horn 11358]

4 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

Tahoe...I mean Mixty, said Bork being wronged by “dirty politics” is just like BK being wronged.  

I know I will regret this but, out of curiosity, why do you think he was wronged?

 

1 minute ago, Ghost of LL said:

Bork was qualified for the Court.

But his participation in the Saturday Night Massacre was unforgivable.  I'm perfectly fine, in retrospect, with it not having been forgiven.

 

1 minute ago, DDD Dad said:

Because I felt that at the time he was qualified as a jurist based on the expectations of qualifications for the court at the time.

He was rejected for his substantive views on hot button issues.  It is essentially the sea change that has generally changed the nature of advice and consent on the supreme court in most of our lifetimes.  

um, didn't bork support a poll tax?

[Pig Bellmont 8664]

1 minute ago, hayden_horn said:

it's a weird hill to die on. it was a weird hill in 1987. this is the guy that helped orchestrate the saturday night massacre for richard fucking nixon. why on earth di they nominate his ass to the supreme court?

He also published an article defending the right to discriminate in 1963 not long after firehoses were turned on children in Birmingham, AL.  A pretty disgusting read where Bork called protesters “a mob”. But, sure, let’s talk about how he was some unfortunate martyr and definitely *not* too racist for the Supreme Court 

 

[Mack Tripper 693]

1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Democrats yielding all their time to Kamala Harris during Kavanaugh’s testimony should be fun.

Is this happening?

[Bateshorn 9853]

16 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

Noticed a lot of talk about Bork being wronged on conservative channels lately.  Is this really a thing now?

This is an age old conservative meme that is untrue.  Bork was too conservative for the senate at the time of his nomination (he'd be fine now). TReagan was told well ahead of the nomination that Bork was unacceptable, to nominate somebody less incendiary.   He was given a full hearing and defeated in committee in a process that most people described as fair.  He insisted on a floor vote, the Reagan WH largely abandoned him, and he was defeated in a full floor vote 58-42. 

Although the GOP still complains about it, the general voting public largely agreed with the move and it faded out of the national conscious rather quickly.

Edited September 27, 2018 by Bateshorn

[hobbes2702 12769]

7 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

It has to be young conservatives. Can't have been politically conscious in '87 to feel bad for Bork.

I wasn’t politically conscious in 1987. I wasn’t even born. Even a rudimentary understanding of the history of Robert Bork would show how uniquely unqualified he was for the Supreme Court

[Huckleberry 32663]

Just now, hayden_horn said:

 

 

um, didn't bork support a poll tax?

Yes. Well he didn't support them but he believed that it was within the rights of States to impose poll taxes.

[David Dennison 18487]

Just now, hobbes2702 said:

I wasn’t politically conscious in 1987. I wasn’t even born. Even a rudimentary understanding of the history of Robert Bork would show how uniquely unqualified he was for the Supreme Court

This. He was rightly rejected. Reagan was an idiot for nominating him.

[Lagunamadre 1975]

Kavanaugh looks nervous as fuck. 

[hobbes2702 12769]

8 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Am I the only one reading between the lines when listening to GOP politicians and conservative commentators and picking up the veiled threats that sexual assault allegations are going to be brought against any future dem nominee?

Like, wouldnt you want to keep that to yourself?

Lindsey Graham said it. Explicitly. It wasn’t veiled. 

[Huckleberry 32663]

1 minute ago, Bateshorn said:

This is an age old conservative meme that is untrue.  Bork was too conservative for the senate at the time of his nomination (he'd be fine now). TReagan was told well ahead of the nomination that Bork was unacceptable, to nominate somebody less incendiary.   He was given a full hearing and defeated in committee in a process that most people described as fair.  He insisted on a floor vote, the Reagan WH largely abandoned him, and he was defeated in a full floor vote 58-42. 

6 Republicans voted no.

[Anastasis 23329]

Mrs. Kavanaugh looks none pleased.

[hayden_horn 11358]

ohh, here comes kavanaugh. 

this is terrible for him, of course, and he looks every bit of it.