Brett Kavanaugh Confirmation Thread

[Francisco 2.0 32,428]

43 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Fox had a black contributor?

[JimmyHoffa 1,188]

3 minutes ago, retread said:

It's not like we haven't watched this play out for the last decade. Catholic Priests, Penn St., Olympic gymnists, etc. All abused, and the vast majority kept silent for years. Turning a blind eye to this just enable future abusers.

Yep- we need more of this- (not the act itself obviously the reaction)

 

[Dolemite 143]

Just now, Bozo_Casanova said:

LIndsay Graham is your next attorney general. Calling it now. 

I think the Huber guy in Utah gets it.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

 

[zork 629]

6 minutes ago, Dolemite said:

She should go now to the local Maryland police. See what they say since no longer a secret. Whoever leaked her name to the press took care of that.

She should have done that 35 or 30 years ago.  Keeping silent was the worst thing she should have done in retrospect.  She should have told her friends.  Told her parents.  Why wouldn't she tell her parents?  Maybe being 15 and drinking at a party would inhibit telling her parents?  Waiting certainly didn't help.

[Goofyboy 3,296]

In 2016 I was a moderate.  Socially liberal, fiscally conservative, but not quite a libertarian.  I would have considered voting for Kasich had he won the nomination.
Now?  I will probably never be able to vote for a Republican in my life.  I find the lot of you disgusting in ways I can't even describe.  It bothers me that you even exist.
I wonder how many of me there are...

Hi! I’ve been voting Libertarian or democrat for a long, long time. The GOP has lost me.

[atomheartbevo 89,799]

14 minutes ago, retread said:

After watching the foaming-at-the-mouth performance during his opening statement, it's pretty scary to think about him being on the SCOTUS.

Graham hasn't been nominated yet, but it is scary to think about.

Edited September 27, 2018 by atomheartbevo

[GopherRock 1,769]

There are several women in my FB feed who are all-in on the "Leave BK Alone!!!" angle. Incidentally, all are mothers of young daughters.

 

I am disappointed.

[Francisco 2.0 32,428]

 

[Bama Chick 28,596]

She should have done that 35 or 30 years ago.  Keeping silent was the worst thing she should have done in retrospect.  She should have told her friends.  Told her parents.  Why wouldn't she tell her parents?  Maybe being 15 and drinking at a party would inhibit telling her parents?  Waiting certainly didn't help.

And there’s the brushing off and reaction of a person who’s never been in a situation of being a victim of sexual assault.

I’ll tell you why - having to tell your parents - especially your father - that you were attacked or raped can be just as traumatic as the assault.

Fuck you for your “why didn’t she” questions.

[Bozo_Casanova 26,554]

1 minute ago, zork said:

She should have done that 35 or 30 years ago.  Keeping silent was the worst thing she should have done in retrospect.  She should have told her friends.  Told her parents.  Why wouldn't she tell her parents?  Maybe being 15 and drinking at a party would inhibit telling her parents?  Waiting certainly didn't help.

How many survivors of sexual abuse, assault or violence do you know? They usually don't tell. They often blame themselves and they often don't think they will be believed. A 65 year old woman called C-Span today and described how she was assaulted by an older boy at a party when she was 15. She began her story by saying "of course I was not as blameless as Dr Ford."

[JimmyJames 12,271]

8 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

LIndsay Graham is your next attorney general. Calling it now. 

I think you might be right. And I wonder what the Russians have on the guy. 

And yeah Hugo I know he’s gay. Nobody cares about that since its not the 1950s. 

 I’m sure that’s not what it may or may not be about. He’s done a complete 180 after his private golf sessions though with the leader of the crime syndicate currently in charge of our country.  

Edited September 27, 2018 by JimmyJames

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

1 minute ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

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[Brisketexan 105,337]

5 minutes ago, zork said:

Maybe being 15 and drinking at a party would inhibit telling her parents? 

Maybe?

You fucking dumbass.  You clearly haven't been reading any of the countless stories of women relating EXACTLY that calculus from back in the day.  There are literally thousands of stories JUST LIKE THAT all over the web right now.

[Lurch 5,931]

I think you might be right. And I wonder what the Russians have on the guy. 
And yeah Hugo I know he’s gay. Nobody cares about that since its not the 1950s. 
 I’m sure that’s not what it may or may not be about. He’s done a complete 180 after his private golf sessions though with the leader of the crime syndicate currently in charge of our country.  

The people voting for him care.

[Brisketexan 105,337]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

They

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They. Will.  Fall.  In. Line.

Bet on evil.  It's got the track record.  It's a proven winner.

[MidTexHorn 822]

2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

They

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Just getting their talking points in order. This is a done deal. 

[JimmyJames 12,271]

Just now, Lurch said:

 

The people voting for him care.

 

Maybe so. And I’m not saying there is something or not. But his current actions are completely different than how he was earlier. Something has changed. I guess I’m like a cop. I don’t usually believe in coincidences. 

[Huckleberry 33,096]

She should have done that 35 or 30 years ago.  Keeping silent was the worst thing she should have done in retrospect.  She should have told her friends.  Told her parents.  Why wouldn't she tell her parents?  Maybe being 15 and drinking at a party would inhibit telling her parents?  Waiting certainly didn't help.

Jesus. You're usually pretty tone deaf but this is incredible. Did Bill Cosby, Larry Nassar, the Catholic Church scandals, etc. not happen in your world?

[atomheartbevo 89,799]

14 minutes ago, Dolemite said:

She looks acts and acts like she suffered abuse but it wasn't by Kavanaugh. It would have turned up in first FBI background check. If not the first one, surely for the one before he worked in the white house. 

Yeah, no.  A simple look at his yearbook entries and the entries of those he hung out with would raise a lot of red flags that he was fucking around quite a bit.  But he was also "one of them" - no, not the Deep State, but an East Coast elite, and there were plenty of those in Washington that vouched for each other, allowing background checks to probably go through faster than a peon from Texas.

It comes down to having a clean record, and who the folks doing the background check actually talk to.  When I went into the military, I had to go through a background check, and I was sweating bullets, because I knew if they talked to the wrong (or right depending on your view) people, my character would be called into question.   I wasn't trying to rape anybody or anything either, but, as an example, my trips to Mexico might have raised some red flags to somebody who wasn't from Texas.

[BurntOrange&White 40,011]

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I think this is right. They gotta line up their talking points on why and etc.

[JimmyJames 12,271]

1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

Yeah, no.  A simple look at his yearbook entries and the entries of those he hung out with would raise a lot of red flags that he was fucking around quite a bit.  But he was also "one of them" - no, not the Deep State, but an East Coast elite, and there were plenty of those in Washington that vouched for each other, allowing background checks to probably go through faster than a peon from Texas.

It comes down to having a clean record, and who the folks doing the background check actually talk to.  When I went into the military, I had to go through a background check, and I was sweating bullets, because I knew if they talked to the wrong (or right depending on your view) people, my character would be called into question.   I wasn't trying to rape anybody or anything either, but, as an example, my trips to Mexico might have raised some red flags to somebody who wasn't from Texas.

I’m gonna go on record that I never visited boys town and never saw the donkey show. But I heard quite a lot about it from people I knew who did. 

And I’ve got a letter signed by 65 women backing that up in case I need it. So case closed. 

[atomheartbevo 89,799]

10 minutes ago, zork said:

She should have done that 35 or 30 years ago.  Keeping silent was the worst thing she should have done in retrospect.  She should have told her friends.  Told her parents.  Why wouldn't she tell her parents?  Maybe being 15 and drinking at a party would inhibit telling her parents?  Waiting certainly didn't help.

I hope you have a bunch of daughters someday.

But I hope none of them ever have to ask to speak to you alone, and start off the conversation with "dad, I was at a party last night and something happened."

[zork 629]

 

Just now, Huckleberry said:

9 minutes ago, zork said:

She should have done that 35 or 30 years ago.  Keeping silent was the worst thing she should have done in retrospect.  She should have told her friends.  Told her parents.  Why wouldn't she tell her parents?  Maybe being 15 and drinking at a party would inhibit telling her parents?  Waiting certainly didn't help.

Jesus. You're usually pretty tone deaf but this is incredible. Did Bill Cosby, Larry Nassar, the Catholic Church scandals, etc. not happen in your world?

Did those scandals get solved because people remained silent or because some of the brave souls spoke up, to parents, trusted individuals, etc?  Speak up to protect yourself and others who might unknowingly go to 9 or10 extra parties with quaalude punch.(assuming it is/was known that is/was going on)  

[used2b 249]

How could this have been caught on the background check if she didn’t tell anyone. 

 

[Celery Man 20,996]

1 minute ago, zork said:

 

Did those scandals get solved because people remained silent or because some of the brave souls spoke up, to parents, trusted individuals, etc?  Speak up to protect yourself and others who might unknowingly go to 9 or10 extra parties with quaalude punch.(assuming it is/was known that is/was going on)  

[Huckleberry 33,096]

 
Did those scandals get solved because people remained silent or because some of the brave souls spoke up, to parents, trusted individuals, etc?  Speak up to protect yourself and others who might unknowingly go to 9 or10 extra parties with quaalude punch.(assuming it is/was known that is/was going on)  

Yes, brave people spoke up. Many of them decades after the abuse.

You seem ignorant.

[TexArcher 38,068]

15 minutes ago, zork said:

She should have done that 35 or 30 years ago.  Keeping silent was the worst thing she should have done in retrospect.  She should have told her friends.  Told her parents.  Why wouldn't she tell her parents?  Maybe being 15 and drinking at a party would inhibit telling her parents?  Waiting certainly didn't help.

I got my ass kicked once.  I was 12 and he was 17.  I fought back, but he was way too strong.  It was embarrassing and emasculating.

You know what worse?

Having to explain to everyone in school why my eye was swelled shut and purple.  I lied and said there were two of them and I got one but the other got me.  Etc.

I can tell this story as an adult.  I couldn't as a youth.  If I'd had the choice to never speak of it to anyone, you bet your ass I wouldn't have.

Now multiply this by ten million.  Who am I, who are you, who are any of us to tell that young lady how she should've responded to what happened to her?

And we wonder why so many rapes go unreported.  Look at the response the victims often get.  

Edited September 27, 2018 by TexArcher

[Ghost of LL 15,539]

7 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

They. Will.  Fall.  In. Line.

Bet on evil.  It's got the track record.  It's a proven winner.

They didn't on repealing Obamacare.  

This is far worse.

They don't have the votes.

[atomheartbevo 89,799]

1 minute ago, used2b said:

How could this have been caught on the background check if she didn’t tell anyone. 

 

Deep State monitors the whole population and knows when you've been naughty and nice.  Moose out front shoulda told ya.

[Bozo_Casanova 26,554]

Just now, Ghost of LL said:

They didn't on repealing Obamacare.  

This is far worse.

They don't have the votes.

That's my bet.

[BurntOrange&White 40,011]

Yes, brave people spoke up. Many of them decades after the abuse.

You seem ignorant.

His posting history says he’s full retard

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

5 minutes ago, Bevo VIII said:

I think this is right. They gotta line up their talking points on why and etc.

It’s been “peace with honor” this whole time.

Kavanaugh wasn’t trying to get on the Supreme Court today.  He was trying to crush the libs along with the GOP Senators.

They knew this thing was cooked from dawn.  

Kavanaugh the martyr strategy in full effect. 

Edited September 27, 2018 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Dolemite 143]

8 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Yeah, no.  A simple look at his yearbook entries and the entries of those he hung out with would raise a lot of red flags that he was fucking around quite a bit.  But he was also "one of them" - no, not the Deep State, but an East Coast elite, and there were plenty of those in Washington that vouched for each other, allowing background checks to probably go through faster than a peon from Texas.

It comes down to having a clean record, and who the folks doing the background check actually talk to.  When I went into the military, I had to go through a background check, and I was sweating bullets, because I knew if they talked to the wrong (or right depending on your view) people, my character would be called into question.   I wasn't trying to rape anybody or anything either, but, as an example, my trips to Mexico might have raised some red flags to somebody who wasn't from Texas.

White House clearance to be the secretary for Bush is a heavy duty deal and this sort of behavior is what they look for. They look for it because of its potential to be used as blackmail. Imagine the value of a person who sees Bush daily being compromised.

Edited September 27, 2018 by Dolemite

[Incredulity 11,683]

6 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

15 minutes ago, zork said:

She should have done that 35 or 30 years ago.  Keeping silent was the worst thing she should have done in retrospect.  She should have told her friends.  Told her parents.  Why wouldn't she tell her parents?  Maybe being 15 and drinking at a party would inhibit telling her parents?  Waiting certainly didn't help.

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Jesus. You're usually pretty tone deaf but this is incredible. Did Bill Cosby, Larry Nassar, the Catholic Church scandals, etc. not happen in your world?

I know your the king og holier than thou, but the comparison of systemic abuse cases to whatever Kavanaugh is ACCUSED of is retarded.

[Ghost of LL 15,539]

Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:

It’s been “peace with honor” this whole time.

Kavanaugh wasn’t trying to get on the Supreme Court today.  He was trying to crush the libs. 

They knew this thing was cooked from dawn.  

Kavanaugh the martyr strategy in full effect. 

I agree with that.  Bill Shine out front shoulda told you.

[JimmyJames 12,271]

2 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

They didn't on repealing Obamacare.  

This is far worse.

They don't have the votes.

The fact that they even had the hearing in the first place makes me think this is correct. But what the fuck do I know. 

[atomheartbevo 89,799]

1 minute ago, Ghost of LL said:

They didn't on repealing Obamacare.  

This is far worse.

They don't have the votes.

If they did, they would have already done it. 

And I guarantee they don't want to vote on it, because folks like Ted Cruz could lose a point or two at the polls.

[zork 629]

Just now, atomheartbevo said:

I hope you have a bunch of daughters someday.

But I hope none of them ever have to ask to speak to you alone, and start off the conversation with "dad, I was at a party last night and something happened."

I have one of each, both 10 and under.  We are starting early on how no matter what you can trust us.  Probably won't matter but we are trying to be understanding and preaching that we can't help you with X if we don't know it is happening.  There have been a few events from school that have already come to our attention due to communication from them to us.  We reiterate as often as we can.  

It is understandable that she didn't tell anyone for any amount of reasons.  Just that because she didn't it was not a slam dunk that it could have been if there had been corroboration of any kind.  Or put it in a diary or something if you can't tell in the X amount of years.  

[used2b 249]

Lindsey Graham was met with applause and cheers when he walked into the GOP meeting this evening.  His little speech to me sounded like the last gasps and screeches of the white male establishment clinging to a life raft after Durbin’s cornering of BK about the fbi investigation. 

As a female I feel even more alienated than I did November 2016. 

I will be more surprised if he’s not confirmed.

 

[Huckleberry 33,096]

White House clearance to be the secretary for Bush is a heavy duty deal and this sort of behavior is what they look for. They look for it because of its potential to be used as blackmail. 

So now the GWB administration is on the up and up? According to you they covered up the 9/11 inside job but you think they played a background check by the book?

[atomheartbevo 89,799]

1 minute ago, Dolemite said:

White House clearance to be the secretary for Bush is a heavy duty deal and this sort of behavior is what they look for. They look for it because of its potential to be used as blackmail. 

He'd been out of high school for nearly 20 years.  I have a hard time believing they'd poke through his yearbook.

Hell, look at his little debts that popped up and then disappeared.  Honestly, that raises more flags for me, than whether he was drinking and groping in the 80s.

[Dolemite 143]

So you don't think the FBI would care about a rapist next to Bush day to day? 

[Gengs1 2,583]

4 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

They didn't on repealing Obamacare.  

This is far worse.

They don't have the votes.

They will get the votes

obama care failed due to single vote of McCain, he isn’t around today 

[Huckleberry 33,096]

I know your the king og holier than thou, but the comparison of systemic abuse cases to whatever Kavanaugh is ACCUSED of is retarded.

This post makes zero sense. What does it have to do with an alleged holier-than-thou attitude? And I didn't compare the cases, I pointed out that at this point anyone who doesn't live under a rock understands that abuse victims frequently don't tell anyone for years if ever.

Try to be a better thinker.

[BurntOrange&White 40,011]

It’s been “peace with honor” this whole time.
Kavanaugh wasn’t trying to get on the Supreme Court today.  He was trying to crush the libs. 
They knew this thing was cooked from dawn.  
Kavanaugh the martyr strategy in full effect. 

You can tell it was done when the republicans took over for the prosecutor lady and started spewing partisan dribble

[Huckleberry 33,096]

So you don't think the FBI would care about a rapist next to Bush day to day? 

You don't think they cared about 3,000 Americans being killed in towers by airliners so you tell me, smart guy.

[atomheartbevo 89,799]

2 minutes ago, zork said:

I have one of each, both 10 and under.  We are starting early on how no matter what you can trust us.  Probably won't matter but we are trying to be understanding and preaching that we can't help you with X if we don't know it is happening.  There have been a few events from school that have already come to our attention due to communication from them to us.  We reiterate as often as we can.  

It is understandable that she didn't tell anyone for any amount of reasons.  Just that because she didn't it was not a slam dunk that it could have been if there had been corroboration of any kind.  Or put it in a diary or something if you can't tell in the X amount of years.  

If your kids put you on a pedestal, as many kids do, it's going to be a lot harder for them to tell you than you think, both because they will blame themselves, and because they don't want you being ashamed of them.  It doesn't matter how much you tell them you would not be ashamed of them, they will still feel some shame.

And it's worse in the social media age, where a few photos can be blasted out to hundreds in a few minutes, unlike whispered rumors slowly making their way around school when we were kids.

[Incredulity 11,683]

1 minute ago, Huckleberry said:

This post makes zero sense. What does it have to do with an alleged holier-than-thou attitude? And I didn't compare the cases, I pointed out that at this point anyone who doesn't live under a rock understands that abuse victims frequently don't tell anyone for years if ever.

Try to be a better thinker.

Yup, you’re down to earth.

 

[triplehorn 2,664]

I don't think they've got the votes either.  They NEVER pass up an opportunity to be smug.  the drama was targeting the GOP undecideds