Brett Kavanaugh Confirmation Thread

[JimmyJames 12271]

20 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

It’s from the Orrin Hatch column I posted earlier from the WSJ. Isn’t going to thank me for posting shit from the WSJ? Most of you poors probably don’t have a subscription. Most satisfying money I spend every month

 Oh so now we’re all “poors?” And your subscription to the Wall Street journal is the “most satisfying money I spend every month?”

Man I hope youre a troll because otherwise you’re the saddest sack of shit I’ve seen in a while.

[tantric superman 4667]

15 minutes ago, Aphelion said:

I'm not claiming some crazy conspiracy in which Ford is a paid actor or planted/hired by the democrats.  I'm making a general claim that people and groups will take more extreme measures and actions based on the severity of the circumstances.  If a person gets into a heated argument with a friend, he may be willing to get into a fist fight but would be unwilling to hit him with a bat.  That same person may be willing to hit a home intruder over the head with a bat.  In war, the US is typically unwilling to launch nukes; under extreme circumstances we would be.  The tactics one is willing to use obviously vary based on the circumstances.  Gorsuch and Kavanaugh were different circumstances and this was evident from the very beginning of the Kavanaugh nomination and is evident with just a cursory review of the situations.  The argument that some activity is not an employable tactic by a group because they were unwilling to use the same tactic in a less desperate situation is a bad argument. 

I wish Ford had hit Kavanaugh with a bat right in the balls.

[tantric superman 4667]

Gov. Abbott says Beto is part of the Soros thing too.

 

Small world.

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

1 hour ago, JimmyJames said:

If there was any doubt that this guy was trolling this post eliminates it. 

I've known Icono on these boards for about a decade and a half now. If he's trolling, it's the longest troll in Internet history. Shit, his saga of bizarre posts goes all the way back to the "I can't believe these black people are reading the Financial Times" debacle on Hornfans circa, what, maybe 2004? Then there was the meth-for-gay-sex disaster, his weekly meltdowns during NFL season, his love not just for UT, but also LSU and UH, his four-hour-at-a-time hard-ons for Tom Herman and now Bart O'Kavanaugh.

No troll. Sick puppy.  

Edited October 4, 2018 by MaybeACoordinator

[Grade of D as in David 13253]

4 hours ago, triplehorn said:

 

This is squarely an attempt by the WH/Senate GOP to shield Brett from lying to the FBI.  It's one thing to lie to a GOP controlled SJC - they willingly accept his lying to the senate if helps him pass through.  FBI not so much.  Crazy to think that Trump tapping Brett could lead to him losing his job, getting disbarred, and potentially serving time for a felony.

 

Would it surprise you? The president is a bizzaro king Midas where everything he touches turns to shit. Work in his administration, get ready for some legal bills. Buy casino, run them into the ground. 

 

He's toxic, only idiots and miscreants would willingly associate with him much less work with or for him.

[TwiceHorn 31440]

"Troll" has become synonymous for "unpopular viewpoint maintained strenuously" in the Cloak Room.  Jimmy James is one of the worst about calling people he disagrees with trolls.

Edited October 4, 2018 by TwiceHorn

[Chuckie Finster 22694]

[Fico 1778]

Does it blow anyone else’s mind as they read this thread to know that Icono, who is of Persian decent I believe, wears tailored counterfeit NFL jerseys, was a serious drug attic who literally S’d the D for drugs /Bob Saget (NTTIAWWT), and is now quoting scripture is supporting Trump hardcore and acting like he is rational, level headed and of sound mind?

Or is it just me?

This shit is wild. People are insane.

[Zonahorn 8079]

3 hours ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

Thank you Orrin Hatch for bringing the wood to those who say Judge Kavanaugh doesn’t have “judicial temperament”. I have never been more fired up to vote Republican in the midterm. Sorry Beto, I’d much rather grab a beer with you than Ted and you seem like a good dude, but the Democrats needs to be put in their place. The GOP base is as energized as I have seen it. This is one of the best columns I have read about this farce. The Democrats were going to pull out all of their dirty tricks to stop whichever nominee we chose.

P.S. Tucker Carlson’s new book Ship of Fools has been a fantastic. I have already read half of it and it just came out yesterday.

Brett Kavanaugh’s Righteous Anger

His foes seem to think a good judge would respond like a robot to scurrilous personal attacks.

Orrin Hatch

Oct. 2, 2018 6:35 p.m. ET

A notable shift occurred in the left’s anti-Kavanaugh campaign over the weekend. Attention has turned away from Christine Blasey Ford’s allegations of sexual assault—the entire reason for last week’s hearing and the ensuing delay in Judge Brett Kavanaugh’s confirmation vote—and toward his behavior at the hearing.

We’re starting to see arguments like the following: Even if Judge Kavanaugh is innocent, what he said at the hearing, and how he said it, is disqualifying.

This is rich. The hearing occurred in the first place only because of Democratic duplicity. It occurred only because Senate Democrats sat on Ms. Ford’s allegations for six weeks rather than referring them to committee investigators, as they should have done immediately. It occurred only because Ms. Ford’s lawyers—recommended to Ms. Ford by Senate Democrats—refused to tell their client of our invitation to testify privately in California, as she said she preferred.

That Judge Kavanaugh had the temerity to defend himself vigorously is now being counted as a strike against him. Over and over we hear him described as “angry,” “belligerent” or “partisan,” followed by the claim that his conduct at the hearing shows that he lacks a judicial temperament. Even “Saturday Night Live” got in on the action.

You’ve got to be kidding me. Do the people making this argument really expect a man who until five seconds ago had an unblemished reputation to sit passively while his reputation is viciously and permanently destroyed? While he is accused of the most horrific and obscene acts imaginable? Judge Kavanaugh’s critics seem to be aghast that he is a human being who is unwilling to take slander lying down.

Had Judge Kavanaugh sat dispassionately through Thursday’s hearing and denied the allegations weakly, his critics would have taken his lack of forcefulness as proof of guilt. We all know this. We’re not stupid. Spare us the pearl-clutching.

More to the point, this whole “temperament” argument is a non sequitur. Obviously Judge Kavanaugh would recuse himself if his own case came before the court. We’re told that a man who reacts with understandable indignation when he is falsely accused cannot be a dispassionate arbiter of disputes involving third parties. 

But we don’t need to guess about how Judge Kavanaugh behaves when he’s actually on the bench. He has a 12-year track record. And here’s what the American Bar Association had to say about him after interviewing more than 100 fellow judges and lawyers who know and have appeared before him: “Lawyers and judges overwhelmingly praised Judge Kavanaugh’s judicial temperament.”

Then there’s the matter of Judge Kavanaugh’s alcohol consumption. Not since Prohibition have so many news outlets reported on drinking habits with such interest. 

Countless articles have been written about how Judge Kavanaugh “lied” about his high-school and college drinking at the hearing, thereby calling into question his honesty. These articles claim the judge portrayed himself as a “choirboy” who, in the words of the New York Times, enjoyed “a beer or two as a high school and college student.” Then they hit back with quotes from college acquaintances who say they saw the judge drink quite a lot.

This is known in the business as a straw man. Judge Kavanaugh never claimed he always drank in moderation. To the contrary, he admitted, “Sometimes I had too many beers.” If Judge Kavanaugh’s opponents want to claim he lied about his drinking when he was younger, perhaps they should stop lying about what he actually said.

A slightly different straw man concerns Judge Kavanaugh’s statements at the hearing that he never blacked out from drinking. The Times and others have gathered testimonials from classmates who say they heard the judge “slur his words” and saw him “staggering” from alcohol consumption, as if this were proof that he blacked out from drinking. But of course Judge Kavanaugh never denied that he slurred his words or staggered. He said he never blacked out. Even a teetotaling Mormon knows the difference.

What’s going on here is obvious. Having failed to bring down Judge Kavanaugh with unsubstantiated allegations of sexual abuse, his opponents are now trying to call into question his character in defending himself from those allegations. It’s the ultimate set-up job. If the initial charges don’t work, we’ll destroy him when he defends himself. The good judge is damned no matter what he does.

This is further evidence that this whole sordid saga was never about the truth. It was never about justice for Ms. Ford. It was always and only about defeating Judge Kavanaugh by any means necessary. If the claims about sexual assault—a serious and important topic that deserves respectful consideration, not this farce—fail to stick, we’ll take him down with straw men about drinking and nitpicking about yearbooks.

The latest claim is that Judge Kavanaugh lied when he testified that he first learned about Deborah Ramirez’s allegations of lewd conduct from “the New Yorker story.” NBC News reports he might have discussed the matter with fellow Yale alumni before the story’s publication. In fact, he testified he’d heard “that she was calling around to classmates trying to see if they remembered” the events she described. The New Yorker quotes him denying the allegations—so it seems a fair conclusion he learned of the precise claim from the New Yorker story as it was being prepared for publication.

He also reportedly threw ice at someone in a bar in 1985. So there’s that.

I for one have had enough of this charade. Judge Kavanaugh is a good man and a good judge who doesn’t deserve this treatment or anything like it. What he does deserve is confirmation.

Mr. Hatch, a Utah Republican, is president pro tempore of the U.S. Senate and a member of the Judiciary Committee.

 

 

You're actually retarded

[TwiceHorn 31440]

2 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

 

I don't disagree that he lacks the temperament.  But law professors opining on judicial temperament is laughable, man.

[David Dennison 18851]

2 minutes ago, Fico said:

Does it blow anyone else’s mind as they read this thread to know that Icono, who is of Persian decent I believe, wears tailored counterfeit NFL jerseys, was a serious drug attic who literally S’d the D for drugs /Bob Saget (NTTIAWWT), and is now quoting scripture is supporting Trump hardcore and acting like he is rational, level headed and of sound mind?

Or is it just me?

This shit is wild. People are insane.

I'd like to hear more about the S-ing Ds for drugs.

[Gil Bang 25922]

2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I'd like to hear more about the S-ing Ds for drugs.

It happened.  Wasn't my cock, for the record. 

[David Dennison 18851]

Literal cocksucker, huh?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

17 minutes ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

I've known Icono on these boards for about a decade and a half now. If he's trolling, it's the longest troll in Internet history. Shit, his saga of bizarre posts goes all the way back to the "I can't believe these black people are reading the Financial Times" debacle on Hornfans circa, what, maybe 2004? Then there was the meth-for-gay-sex disaster, his weekly meltdowns during NFL season, his love not just for UT, but also LSU and UH, his four-hour-at-a-time hard-ons for Tom Herman and now Bart O'Kavanaugh.

No troll. Sick puppy.  

Whoever said Icono could at times be mistaken for Hank Scorpio, an actual funny satirical poster, was spot on.

[GRHorn 105]

5 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I'd like to hear more about the S-ing Ds for drugs.

I bet you would. 

[Blotto 23491]

2 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

It happened.  Wasn't my cock, for the record. 

So you brought the meth?

[Anastasis 23464]

3 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I'd like to hear more about the S-ing Ds for drugs.

We know. 

[David Dennison 18851]

2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Whoever said Icono could at times be mistaken for Hank Scorpio, an actual funny satirical poster, was spot on.

And then there's Anastasis.

He's the anti-Hank Scorpio.

[GRHorn 105]

8 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I'd like to hear more about the S-ing Ds for drugs.

I don’t see what the big deal is.  This forum is 98% of y’all sucking each other’s dicks all day. 

[Anastasis 23464]

Just now, David Dennison said:

And then there's Anastasis.

Sorry to interrupt your jerk session. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Sucking dick talk not going away

[Zonahorn 8079]

Just now, GRHorn said:

I don’t see what the big deal is.  This forum is 98% of y’all sucking each other’s dicks all day. 

Amazing how some of you right wingers get triggered by the number of liberals on this site. Go to Redstate if you want a safespace.

[scottsins 1966]

56 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

It’s from the Orrin Hatch column I posted earlier from the WSJ. Isn’t going to thank me for posting shit from the WSJ? Most of you poors probably don’t have a subscription. Most satisfying money I spend every month

Lol.  I was wishfully thinking that you weren’t actually making ANOTHER “LOOK AT WHAT ORRIN HATCH SAID” post.

negged for the “poors” comment, because, it’s lame AF, not accurate, and ignorant to think that you need a subscription to view WSJ articles.

[David Dennison 18851]

Just now, scottsins said:

Lol.  I was wishfully thinking that you weren’t actually making ANOTHER “LOOK AT WHAT ORRIN HATCH SAID” post.

negged for the “poors” comment, because, it’s lame AF, not accurate, and ignorant to think that you need a subscription to view WSJ articles.

Ironic, too, considering the sucking dick for drugs thing. Non-poors usually just pay for their drugs like grown ups.

[wildcat09 29348]

Did he really brag about being rich enough to afford a subscription to the WSJ?

That might be the most insane shit he’s ever said.

[JimmyJames 12271]

23 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

"Troll" has become synonymous for "unpopular viewpoint maintained strenuously" in the Cloak Room.  Jimmy James is one of the worst about calling people he disagrees with trolls.

It’s true. But it’s only because I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. I used to call swam and badmofo trolls, mainly because I refused to believe that real people, especially swam a UT grad, could actually be that damn stupid. sadly, I was wrong.

[Anastasis 23464]

49 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

 

All the meth-fueled dick sucking talk aside, it will be a god damn travesty if the 302s aren't leaked., 

[MixtyMotions 102]

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/03/654015874/poll-amid-kavanaugh-confirmation-battle-democratic-enthusiasm-edge-evaporates

Quote

 

Just over a month away from critical elections across the country, the wide Democratic enthusiasm advantage that has defined the 2018 campaign up to this point has disappeared, according to a new NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll.

In July, there was a 10-point gap between the number of Democrats and Republicans saying the November elections were "very important." Now, that is down to 2 points, a statistical tie.

 

 

[Gil Bang 25922]

1 minute ago, JimmyJames said:

It’s true. But it’s only because I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. I used to call swam and badmofo trolls, mainly because I refused to believe that real people, especially swam a UT grad, could actually be that damn stupid. sadly, I was wrong.

Yeah...swam is definately that damn stupid.  

[Horn Dog 9816]

14 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Literal cocksucker, huh?

I knew I had seen Ironoclast before....

 

[Stros 153]

Sen. Cory Booker wants to “move onto a new candidate” and does not care whether Kavanaugh is “innocent or guilty.”

[retread 2951]

CNN: Right now it looks like 1st vote Friday and final vote Saturday.

[scottsins 1966]

Finally I can get paid on my Kavanaugh confirmation PredictIt shares.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

3 minutes ago, retread said:

CNN: Right now it looks like 1st vote Friday and final vote Saturday.

Sure Jan gif

[Anastasis 23464]

Just now, scottsins said:

Finally I can get paid on my Kavanaugh confirmation PredictIt shares.

I naively bet the no big. Gonna try to recoup by covering the oct 6 and 7 timing. 

[Zonahorn 8079]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Sure Jan gif

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

I naively bet the no big. 

Does that pay off if Kav withdraws? 

[tantric superman 4667]

13 minutes ago, Stros said:

Sen. Cory Booker wants to “move onto a new candidate” and does not care whether Kavanaugh is “innocent or guilty.”

I don't either.  He sucks either way.

[Anastasis 23464]

2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Does that pay off if Kav withdraws? 

yes

[bad_teammate 13193]

A supplemental FBI report where the two most important participants aren't interviewed lol

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Just now, bad_teammate said:

A supplemental FBI report where the two most important participants aren't interviewed lol

And one of them is the suspect that really doesn’t want to be questioned by the FBI.  

Corrupt AF

[Stros 153]

And one of them is the suspect that really doesn’t want to be questioned by the FBI.  
Corrupt AF

Despite being investigated by the FBI 6 times.

[Jag102 98]

20 hours ago, A-Tex Devil said:

I bill $835. That’s cheap. 

In any event, to say she was not credible is mental gymnastics for me.  Perhaps she got BK mixed up with someone else.  I doubt it, but it is possible.  Even if he is completely innocent, he disqualified himself in my eyes with the way he approached things Thursday.  Seriously fuck that guy and Squee too.  

Yea, that's your published rate, not a single one of your clients pays that rate. Why don't you just go ahead and say your rate is $9000 an hour, your still gonna get the same amount, not that, please. I like the statment "Even if he is completely innocent...", if he is innocent, then he gets the job. You don't like the way he defended his innocence, so he gets the same result as if he was guilty. Is that justice...?

[GRHorn 105]

34 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

I naively bet the no big. Gonna try to recoup by covering the oct 6 and 7 timing. 

You bet against Cocaine Mitch. You have only yourself to blame. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[MixtyMotions 102]

2 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

You bet against Cocaine Mitch. You have only yourself to blame. 

McConnell and Pelosi are both extraordinarily good at their jobs.  They know what votes they can get and what they can't.  

[softlynow 1814]

16 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

And one of them is the suspect that really doesn’t want to be questioned by the FBI.  

Corrupt AF

And yet you think the old rules of decency, optics and long term strategy apply. They really don’t. Flake found his middle path to preserve his path forward as a Republican, whether as a candidate in 2020, or on Fox, while looking to the pliable rubes in the middle and Reagan Dems that he did the right thing.

Doing both always required voting for Kavanaugh.

When it comes to Pubs these days and integrity, always bet the under. 

[Patrick Bateman 3911]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

I'm going to guess by the overwhelming call for transparency by those involved, the investigation was inconclusive or led to no real new findings..... 

 

[Gap03 3304]

4 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

I'm going to guess by the overwhelming call for transparency by those involved, the investigation was inconclusive or led to no real new findings..... 

 

Agreed.  No way Cornyn or Kennedy take this position without having a sense of what it says already.

[Gil Bang 25922]