Brett Kavanaugh Confirmation Thread

[Hank Kingsley 21032]

3 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

Jews marrying other Jews is how they survived as a people over the millennia. It’s pretty sad that Reform Jews living in the US now free of persecution and discrimination are abandoning their faith and tradition that their ancestors fought so hard to maintain. I will give you 2 examples. Last year in the NYT, I read that some Reform Jews are not even getting their sons circumcised!! God’s covenant with Abraham and the marker of being Jewish. and they are ignoring because of some bullshit leftist reasons. The last Passover Seder I went to the host had this ultra-abridged Haggadah. It was 20 pages at best with illustrations. I am not a Jew but I was offended that such an important holiday that I have so much respect for was treated with such a trifling ceremony.

[bad_teammate 13224]

4 minutes ago, tantric superman said:

I think that "middle stance" was only really popular until they all got free reign to ridicule the victim by DOTUS.

100% this

Before receiving marching orders, immediately after watching Ford's testimony, the conservatives were silent. They were talking about how credible a witness she was on FOX. After Kavanaugh's testimony, however, the plan of attack was becoming clearer and they started coming out of the woodwork. The more time that passes from Ford's credible testimony, the nastier conservatives are free to become.

[Js1 85531]

Icono cares a lot about baby dicks being circumcised or not. 

[bad_teammate 13224]

1 minute ago, Hank Kingsley said:

He gets knock-off NFL jerseys from China and then has them tailored to suit his figure.

Yes. He needs help.

Y'all need to stop quoting him.

Make Ignore Great Again

[David Dennison 18945]

4 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

Jews marrying other Jews is how they survived as a people over the millennia. It’s pretty sad that Reform Jews living in the US now free of persecution and discrimination are abandoning their faith and tradition that their ancestors fought so hard to maintain. I will give you 2 examples. Last year in the NYT, I read that some Reform Jews are not even getting their sons circumcised!! God’s covenant with Abraham and the marker of being Jewish. and they are ignoring because of some bullshit leftist reasons. The last Passover Seder I went to the host had this ultra-abridged Haggadah. It was 20 pages at best with illustrations. I am not a Jew but I was offended that such an important holiday that I have so much respect for was treated with such a trifling ceremony.

No. They are ignoring it because it's nonsense. 

[Dirk X West 772]

Nobody told me this was gonna be "Iconoclast Texan's bizarre theories on Israel and Judaism" Friday.

[Zonahorn 8079]

10 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

Jews marrying other Jews is how they survived as a people over the millennia. It’s pretty sad that Reform Jews living in the US now free of persecution and discrimination are abandoning their faith and tradition that their ancestors fought so hard to maintain. I will give you 2 examples. Last year in the NYT, I read that some Reform Jews are not even getting their sons circumcised!! God’s covenant with Abraham and the marker of being Jewish. and they are ignoring because of some bullshit leftist reasons. The last Passover Seder I went to the host had this ultra-abridged Haggadah. It was 20 pages at best with illustrations. I am not a Jew but I was offended that such an important holiday that I have so much respect for was treated with such a trifling ceremony.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

 

[Buzzrock 14936]

This doesn’t sound like a “no” speech

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Collins was always a yes

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

She is a completely hollow human being. 

[horncyclist 1391]

Well, they have the votes.

[GHOSTUSER 361]

This is for those harping on Kavanaugh not having “judicial temperament”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-it-feels-to-be-falsely-accused-1538695989

How It Feels To Be Falsely Accused

My high-profile clients know the painful personal costs of defamation.

Libby Locke

Oct. 4, 2018 7:33 p.m. ET

As an attorney, I represent people at the pinnacle of their careers facing front-page reputational attacks. I spend countless hours, day and night, counseling and consoling high-profile clients—from CEOs to celebrities—experiencing acute trauma. Those falsely accused of misconduct—professional or personal, sexual or criminal—face a hellish choice: Let it go and allow the lie to persist as a permanent blot, or fight back through the legal process to clear their name. As we talk through the decision, my clients grapple with the damage to their relationships, lives and reputations.

They lament the unfairness of having their reputations destroyed—legacies built from work, faith, relationships and day-to-day treatment of others over a lifetime. They slowly realize there is no easy fix, in part because First Amendment precedents place an enormous burden of proof on defamation plaintiffs. Most poignantly, they grieve over the damage to their families. 

They worry about who has seen the defamation. The parents of their children’s classmates? The neighbors? The cashier who sees their name on a credit card? They stress out wondering if they’ll ever be able to go to a social gathering without encountering someone who thinks it’s true. They get angry. They cry. For most, it is their darkest hour. 

That is why I was not at all surprised by Judge Brett Kavanaugh’s emotional response last week, shifting from moral indignation at the absurd and vicious political theater to sorrow at the impact of the accusation on his family. Like my clients, Judge Kavanaugh is facing the gut-wrenching trauma of this high-profile—indeed, the most high-profile—reputational attack. 

He also faces a Catch-22 as a judicial nominee. His detractors in the media have decreed that the only way to demonstrate innocence is with an “authentic” emotional response, yet that response is taken as evidence of lack of an appropriate “judicial temperament”—as if a Justice Kavanaugh would be hearing his own case. Never mind his hundreds of opinions, the universal praise by litigants who have appeared before him, and the scores of women and men who’ve worked for and effusively praise him. 

Contrast this with the deference afforded to his accusers. The accusations were timed suspiciously, brought forth by Senate Democrats and activist lawyers who lay in wait for six weeks, then leaked to the media just in time to derail a vote. Nonetheless, throngs of people announced that they believed the accusations despite the contradictions, memory lapses and lack of contemporaneous corroboration. 

The public destruction of a respected jurist by a decades-old uncorroborated allegation has thoroughly refuted the idea that those accused of sexual assault have an unfair advantage over their accusers. No wonder Judge Kavanaugh is angry. Any man falsely accused of sexual assault would be. And any respectable jurist would have been frustrated to have his personal reputation and his family’s well-being destroyed—along with bedrock principles of American jurisprudence like due process, evidentiary burdens and the presumption of innocence. 

Ms. Locke is a partner in the law firm Clare Locke LLP, based in Alexandria, Va.

[Buzzrock 14936]

What’s she doing? Campaigning? Why the big speech?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Just now, Buzzrock said:

What’s she doing? Campaigning? Why the big speech?

Grandstanding

[Js1 85531]

2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

She is a completely hollow human being. 

Boos dark money - votes to confirm guy who loves dark money in politics.

[Bateshorn 9929]

Having Cindy Hyde Smith and Shelley Moore Capito intentionally sit behind her, is......a bit over the top. Those are not their seats by seniority.

[David Dennison 18945]

1 minute ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

This is for those harping on Kavanaugh not having “judicial temperament”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-it-feels-to-be-falsely-accused-1538695989

How It Feels To Be Falsely Accused

My high-profile clients know the painful personal costs of defamation.

Libby Locke

Oct. 4, 2018 7:33 p.m. ET

As an attorney, I represent people at the pinnacle of their careers facing front-page reputational attacks. I spend countless hours, day and night, counseling and consoling high-profile clients—from CEOs to celebrities—experiencing acute trauma. Those falsely accused of misconduct—professional or personal, sexual or criminal—face a hellish choice: Let it go and allow the lie to persist as a permanent blot, or fight back through the legal process to clear their name. As we talk through the decision, my clients grapple with the damage to their relationships, lives and reputations.

They lament the unfairness of having their reputations destroyed—legacies built from work, faith, relationships and day-to-day treatment of others over a lifetime. They slowly realize there is no easy fix, in part because First Amendment precedents place an enormous burden of proof on defamation plaintiffs. Most poignantly, they grieve over the damage to their families. 

They worry about who has seen the defamation. The parents of their children’s classmates? The neighbors? The cashier who sees their name on a credit card? They stress out wondering if they’ll ever be able to go to a social gathering without encountering someone who thinks it’s true. They get angry. They cry. For most, it is their darkest hour. 

That is why I was not at all surprised by Judge Brett Kavanaugh’s emotional response last week, shifting from moral indignation at the absurd and vicious political theater to sorrow at the impact of the accusation on his family. Like my clients, Judge Kavanaugh is facing the gut-wrenching trauma of this high-profile—indeed, the most high-profile—reputational attack. 

He also faces a Catch-22 as a judicial nominee. His detractors in the media have decreed that the only way to demonstrate innocence is with an “authentic” emotional response, yet that response is taken as evidence of lack of an appropriate “judicial temperament”—as if a Justice Kavanaugh would be hearing his own case. Never mind his hundreds of opinions, the universal praise by litigants who have appeared before him, and the scores of women and men who’ve worked for and effusively praise him. 

Contrast this with the deference afforded to his accusers. The accusations were timed suspiciously, brought forth by Senate Democrats and activist lawyers who lay in wait for six weeks, then leaked to the media just in time to derail a vote. Nonetheless, throngs of people announced that they believed the accusations despite the contradictions, memory lapses and lack of contemporaneous corroboration. 

The public destruction of a respected jurist by a decades-old uncorroborated allegation has thoroughly refuted the idea that those accused of sexual assault have an unfair advantage over their accusers. No wonder Judge Kavanaugh is angry. Any man falsely accused of sexual assault would be. And any respectable jurist would have been frustrated to have his personal reputation and his family’s well-being destroyed—along with bedrock principles of American jurisprudence like due process, evidentiary burdens and the presumption of innocence. 

Ms. Locke is a partner in the law firm Clare Locke LLP, based in Alexandria, Va.

Assuming he's being falsely accused.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Just now, Bateshorn said:

Having Cindy Hyde Smith and Shelley Moore Capito intentionally sit behind her, is......a bit over the top. Those are not their seats by seniority.

Where is Joni Ernst?

[David Dennison 18945]

2 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

What’s she doing? Campaigning? Why the big speech?

She's rationalizing a vote that might end her political career.

This is a big day for her.

[burntorangebongos 10752]

Can someone explain why Soros is anti Kavanaugh? Is he just anti conservative judges or does he want to uphold settled law? Does he want tp preserve the right to abortions? Because I haven't heard him talking about anything so help me out.

[4th&Five 41586]

[Bat Guano 359]

9 minutes ago, Calihorn said:

What the fuck is wrong with you?

 

He prefers circumcised dicks?

Edited October 5, 2018 by Bat Guano

[Brisketexan 105275]

Just now, David Dennison said:

She's rationalizing a vote that might end her political career.

This is a big day for her.

Which is, of course, exactly what she's going to do.  She was always going to fall in line.  Anyone shocked by this, you should probably just stop trying to think anymore.

[Bateshorn 9929]

1 minute ago, 4th&Five said:

Always appropriate and on point.

[Pancho 44965]

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Just now, burntorangebongos said:

Can someone explain why Soros is anti Kavanaugh? Is he just anti conservative judges or does he want to uphold settled law? Does he want tp preserve the right to abortions? Because I haven't heard him talking about anything so help me out.

Soros is pro-free societies. 

Pretty much the opposite of what authoritarians want. 

[Celery Man 20996]

I think she’s filibustering the women waiting to burn her office down

[4th&Five 41586]

If she actually believed in what she was doing she wouldn’t be trying so hard to convince us.

Vote them all out. 

[cmontexas 3276]

This site needs the ignore function this guy sucks and posts too much and longcats every fucking page

[Bateshorn 9929]

Since John Chafee retired and Jim Jeffords changed parties, the most consistent thing in DC life is moderate GOP members disappointing Democrats.

[retread 2951]

I'm sure she'll have some harsh words for him when he rules in a way that she says he won't.

[4th&Five 41586]

Just now, cmontexas said:

This site needs the ignore function this guy sucks and posts too much and longcats every fucking page

It has it and it works beautifully. 

[David Dennison 18945]

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

Which is, of course, exactly what she's going to do.  She was always going to fall in line.  Anyone shocked by this, you should probably just stop trying to think anymore.

I just hope someone has the wherewithal to track her down and ask her what she thinks if Kavanaugh is the deciding vote on the first case that further erodes Roe.

[pacman 7369]

lol she brought up Ginsberg

If kavanaugh had even the tiniest bit of legal career accomplishments that ginsberg had, we wouldn't be here

[4th&Five 41586]

Oh good...an 8th grade history lesson. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

I do like her Star Wars villain outfit. 

[Bateshorn 9929]

I imagine the grin that Joe Manchin is trying to suppress right now is pretty epic.

 

Did I mention that Susan is a super pedantic speaker?

Edited October 5, 2018 by Bateshorn

[Nonbryan 173]

Is she the critical vote?  It's clearly a yes.

[Js1 85531]

2 minutes ago, retread said:

I'm sure she'll have some harsh words for him when he rules in a way that she says he won't.

"But he said precedent was rooted in the Constitution! I can't believe he voted to overturn Roe!"

-Susan Collins, summer 2019

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Just now, Nonbryan said:

Is she the critical vote?  It's clearly a yes.

We’re not sure yet how Pence would vote.

[Chuckie Finster 22726]

Her 2020 opponent is about to become very rich.

[lemonlime 5503]

4 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

“Lifelong Republican” creates a misleading picture of Stevens when it comes to SCOTUS politics. He ended up as far left as RBG.  

Edit - This is probably very old news on the thread by now.

and I believe the conclusion is that the reference is at least as accurate as republicans saying they're the party of equal rights since they're the party of Lincoln.

[Js1 85531]

1 minute ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Her 2020 opponent is about to become very rich.

Chellie Pingree should just announce tomorrow she's running.  She'd have like $5 million by Monday morning.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

I’m going to start drinking.

[Bat Guano 359]

In a just world, she'd end this speech by saying, 'All this notwithstanding, he lied under oath to the Judiciary Committee, is blatantly partisan, and does not have an appropriate judicial temperament, so I vote no.'

Edited October 5, 2018 by Bat Guano

[David Dennison 18945]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I’m going to start drinking.

Look on the bright side. You knew they were going to get a conservative. The question was whether they would shoot their wad to get this conservative.

Now you know.

[Bateshorn 9929]

2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Chellie Pingree should just announce tomorrow she's running.  She'd have like $5 million by Monday morning.

It's true.

[TtomTerrific 200]

6 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Soros is pro-free societies. 

Pretty much the opposite of what authoritarians want. 

He is also against the presumption of innocence and due process, pretty much exactly what authoritarians want.

 

"They Don't Have the Votes!"........good call.

 

It's that smell.....that gas   o    lean smell

 

[Horn Dog 9904]

1 minute ago, Bat Guano said:

In a just world, she'd end this speech by saying, 'All this notwithstanding, he lied under oath to the Judiciary Committee, is blatantly partisan, and does not have an appropriate judicial temperament, so I vote no.'

She should of had 2 caps on the table, then showed the BCAV jersey she was wearing at the end

[Celery Man 20996]

She may die of old age before she finishes the speech, there is still hope.