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I like him.  I dont think hes the best but i think hes good. I dont actively make time to watch him but i dont feel the need to vomit if i come across his show.

He reports like hes teaching 3rd grade.  No doubt because of the mental capacity of your average Fox news viewers

This is what happened.

These are the bad guys.  

This is why their bad.

This is how we now.

Its elementary.  But i like his style and i wish more people reported like this.

 

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42 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

I like him.  I dont think hes the best but i think hes good. I dont actively make time to watch him but i dont feel the need to vomit if i come across his show.

He reports like hes teaching 3rd grade.  No doubt because of the mental capacity of your average Fox news viewers

This is what happened.

These are the bad guys.  

This is why their bad.

This is how we now.

Its elementary.  But i like his style and i wish more people reported like this.

 

That's how all three major networks used to report.  You didn't know their biases.  Cronkite was apparently very liberal, but you never knew that when he reported.  That genie is out of the fucking bottle now though. Thanks Ted Turner.....

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21 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

That's how all three major networks used to report.  You didn't know their biases.  Cronkite was apparently very liberal, but you never knew that when he reported.  That genie is out of the fucking bottle now though. Thanks Ted Turner.....

I'm genuinely curious about what leads people to this conclusion. I have never relied on television news for information, so I'm out of the loop. What do you see when you watch TV news that reveals the biases? Are you sure someone like a Cronkite today would be perceived as impartial? It's very easy to apply a blanket statement to the entirety of the mainstream media.

Hell, isn't it just as likely that a strong bias on the part of the viewer makes them perceive bias in the reporting, whenever the reporting conflicts with the viewers biases?

Also, with so much media being reported every day, it doesn't seem to hard to find "evidence" to support bias. It would take a monumental effort to comprehensively assess media outlets for their bias. And even then, such bias would be relative to the American audience, right? "Liberal" for an American audience might well be middle of the road or even conservative for another audience.

If we must have faith in journalism, and we've lost that faith, why don't we ever talk about what would restore that faith?

I'm, uh, just asking questions...

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36 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

That's how all three major networks used to report.  You didn't know their biases.  Cronkite was apparently very liberal, but you never knew that when he reported.  That genie is out of the fucking bottle now though. Thanks Ted Turner.....

I admittedly don't know a great deal how TV journalism works and how much personal credit Smith deserves. For example, what role does he play in shaping a story or writing its script. I do appreciate his "just the facts, ma'am" delivery though.

And, to your point, TV news used to be much more like that. Of course, that was somewhat out of necessity given that the "News" was only delivered for 30 minutes once a day. I'm old enough to remember my dad silencing the house during those 30 minutes, because he didn't want to miss a thing.

Yeah, CNN changed the game to a 24-hour model, and in many ways that was great simply for the fact that you can't adequately convey all the world's news in a 30-minute per day segment.

Where we lost our way, in my opinion, is the blending of news with editorial commentary. It's a huge disservice to the American public and is largely responsible for why/where we are divided and how we got here.

Maybe Ted Turner does deserve some scorn for that, but I place a much larger onus on those who did away with the "fairness doctrine" that ruled American newsrooms until the mid- to late-1980s which gave rise to infotainment blowhards like Rush Limbaugh who, in turn, provided the model for the shit we see on TV today.

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10 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

The Fox News news shows aren’t horrible but they surrounded by the opinion shows that pretend to be news. 

I'm pretty sure this is the crux of the matter. It's normal for 24 hour news channels to put a newsroom backdrop behind a political pundit saying all the kinds of things that we'd expect a political pundit to say -- selecting facts that fit a particular narrative, arrogant dismissal of opposing view points, damage control, etc. When you add in the ticker at the bottom and all the other visual cues that identify news reporting, many people lose the ability to recognize whether they're watching actual reporting or just op-ed.

Eventually people just move in to that castle-in-the-sky, and stop watching reporters like Smith altogether, and tune in to the likes of Hannity instead. I've seen it with the left, too, where people watch John Oliver and Bill Maher all the time but don't really get news directly from any news source.

We only have one way out of this tailspin. We have to get several hundred million Americans with free will and shit for brains to once again see the same world (albeit with different perspectives). Outlook not so good, IMO.

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5 hours ago, Seger78 said:

I think Chris Wallace is the best on Fox, and one of the best on all of the networks. 

 

I'd almost agree, but he was a baby to John Stewart when interviewing him, trying to defend Fox as a legitimate, unbiased news channel.  Shep at least recognizes a number of the Fox hosts like Hannity are full of shit.

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4 hours ago, TornACL said:

It's that news channels don't deliver facts anymore. They argue viewpoints. And you're supposed to glean the facts made within the arguments made to support said viewpoints. 

News channels are fine.  Its the Infotainment Networks that occasionally show news that do that.   It is not difficult to find News stations and it is easy to see slant in reporting.    Investigative journalism is not frequently shown and John Oliver's show does a fairly nice job of investigating issues that impact us today (their payday loan and 401k shows stick out as very good segments).  

 

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Never really watched him because ... FOX. But I watched his coverage of the shooting in San Bernardino and he quickly won me over. He reported facts and quashed any "speculations" other hosts were trying to inject. He's consistent with that, too. I feel he's a trustworthy newsman and that's a very thin category at FOX.

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On 8/25/2018 at 8:25 AM, Onboard 2.0 said:

That's how all three major networks used to report.  You didn't know their biases.  Cronkite was apparently very liberal, but you never knew that when he reported.  That genie is out of the fucking bottle now though. Thanks Ted Turner.....

Ted????

 

Rupert says "hold my fucking beer."

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On 8/25/2018 at 8:25 AM, Onboard 2.0 said:

That's how all three major networks used to report.  You didn't know their biases.  Cronkite was apparently very liberal, but you never knew that when he reported.  That genie is out of the fucking bottle now though. Thanks Ted Turner.....

 

I think you meant "Thanks Ronald Reagan and his FCC appointees."  

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