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2 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

So, I'm coming back into the country on Friday. Is the Surly law mafia ready to engage if I get detained?

whatever you do, do NOT let them see your surly posting history. smash your phone if you have to. 

 

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Oh, let's get back to Garcia again.  So, in actual court filings, and in the actual past court record related to him, 1) there is no finding that he was a member of MS-13, and in fact 2) he was allowed to stay because he was at risk FROM MS-13, and 3) the administration (via affidavit, not just a statement by a lawyer) admitted his deportation was "an administrative error."

What did the administration say yesterday in a press conference, some things for the first time?  1) He is a terrorist, 2) he is a member of MS-13, and 3) he is a human trafficker.

Are there any findings by any adjudicative body of any of these things?  NOPE.  The admin just.....says so.  The human trafficking allegation (with zero evidence) was stated for the first time at a fucking press conference yesterday.

Has the administration put forth ANY evidence to substantiate its claims?   NOPE.

So let's be clear.  The administration, without offering ANY evidence, in ANY venue or forum (public, private, court, etc.) can declare you (yes, YOU) to be a "terrorist" and "human trafficker," and then....do whatever the fuck it wants to you.  What is the proof that you are those things?  Well...the administration says so.  That's enough.

Everything that all the people freaking out about "the deep state" claimed to be afraid of now exists....and they fucking EMBRACE it.

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3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Oh, let's get back to Garcia again.  So, in actual court filings, and in the actual past court record related to him, 1) there is no finding that he was a member of MS-13, and in fact 2) he was allowed to stay because he was at risk FROM MS-13, and 3) the administration (via affidavit, not just a statement by a lawyer) admitted his deportation was "an administrative error."

What did the administration say yesterday in a press conference, some things for the first time?  1) He is a terrorist, 2) he is a member of MS-13, and 3) he is a human trafficker.

Are there any findings by any adjudicative body of any of these things?  NOPE.  The admin just.....says so.  The human trafficking allegation (with zero evidence) was stated for the first time at a fucking press conference yesterday.

Has the administration put forth ANY evidence to substantiate its claims?   NOPE.

So let's be clear.  The administration, without offering ANY evidence, in ANY venue or forum (public, private, court, etc.) can declare you (yes, YOU) to be a "terrorist" and "human trafficker," and then....do whatever the fuck it wants to you.  What is the proof that you are those things?  Well...the administration says so.  That's enough.

Everything that all the people freaking out about "the deep state" claimed to be afraid of now exists....and they fucking EMBRACE it.

One thing that's pretty shocking, the judgments from the Immigration Court and Board of Immigration Appeals on A G's original removal case are shockingly thin.  "Someone said he was in MS-13."  Although they did state that it was a "known and reliable source," apparently the indicted cop above.

So, that's the kind of due process immigrants receive here.

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20 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

One thing that's pretty shocking, the judgments from the Immigration Court and Board of Immigration Appeals on A G's original removal case are shockingly thin.  "Someone said he was in MS-13."  Although they did state that it was a "known and reliable source," apparently the indicted cop above.

So, that's the kind of due process immigrants receive here.

Yeah dude, we're shipping them to fucking conentration camps. No fuckin shit they're not getting any due process. The fascists have figured out how to weaponize the legal system to slow their enemies and accelerate their own schemes. @Frank Drebin has been casting all sorts of accusations of "lawfare" and wouldn't ya know it, there's the lawfare in action now. It's just being applied against the general population, and the good deacon's enemies in particular

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31 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

One thing that's pretty shocking, the judgments from the Immigration Court and Board of Immigration Appeals on A G's original removal case are shockingly thin.  "Someone said he was in MS-13."  Although they did state that it was a "known and reliable source," apparently the indicted cop above.

So, that's the kind of due process immigrants receive here.

Having some hands on experience in the field, I’m a bit more of an immigration hawk.  I think it’s undebatable that we’ve been allowing some extremely questionable asylum claims to be processed for a long time frame with some undeniable negative outcomes.  
 

It’s also true that removing someone who has entered the U.S.irregularly to their home country is not a judicial punishment, it’s an administrative action and requires a much lower threshold. I don’t think the government needs to show “beyond a reasonable doubt” to remove an alien and the law agrees.  I also happen to think that we have long needed more robust resources to decide and dispose of these claims and cases to close the questionable asylum claim route.
 

That said this case is outrageous because first, the government acted contrary to its own administrative decision whether it was “correct” or not. Second, sending someone to an extraterritorial penal colony IS extrajudicial punishment and should not be allowed at all. It’s a reprehensible human rights violation. 
 

If we ever do return to a more normal politics, this is all going to blow up and make vigorous immigration enforcement politically impossible. That is in some sense the goal as there are multiple factions who benefit from a never-solved “migration crisis.” 

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Let's not forget about Rumeysa Ozturk who had her day in court yesterday (hits close to home as she was kidnapped about 2.75 miles from my house). The defense was a habeas corpus petition for Constitutional violations by the government. While the government did a lot of hand waving "wrong state", "our fault you didn't know which state, but doesn't matter" etc.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/14/us/rumeysa-ozturk-arrest-update-tufts-university/index.html

As noted over the weekend even the State Dept knew she had no links to any sort of antisemitism or terrorism. Her only "crime" was writing an op-ed in the student paper speaking out against the University's response to the Israel-Gaza war.

https://wapo.st/4iouvuJ

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If you guys are looking to put some money out there to help immigrants, may I suggest the EDSBS/ShutownFullcast Charity Bowl?  Every year they do this for American Pathways, which is a resettlement group.  They are obviously having a hard time as funding has been cut by the government and there is a lot of uncertainty.  Last year, I think they raised over $1M through this drive and are trying to surpass that.

Since this is a college football (former) blog and podcast, they track it by school and have rivalries.  Right now, A&M is beating our ass ($47K to $4K), so let's get that number up.  https://www.moneycannon.org/?t=leaderboard

They also encourage your donation to be a number that has meaning to the college football fandom.  For instance, I put up $490 a couple years ago in honor of 49-0 over OU.  People do rushing yards, pass completions, etc etc.  

Anyway, if you're so inclined, it is greatly appreciated by this charity and the immigrants that depend on it:

https://fundraise.givesmart.com/e/k-yA-Q?vid=1iywsc

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Posted
1 minute ago, Ghost of NMAS said:

So the US should issue a level 4 travel advisory for itself?

Weird how they're always telling on themselves. There's gotta be a psychiatric evaluation that describes the symptom.

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2 hours ago, Chopper said:

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1 hour ago, Chopper said:

Weird how they're always telling on themselves. There's gotta be a psychiatric evaluation that describes the symptom.

 

Every accusation is a confession

Posted
21 hours ago, Captainant said:

Wow, some solid journalism. It's too bad that @ChickenSandwich and @Rex Kramer and everyone else that was cheering this on is missing out on actual information.

TLDR: the ONLY person who claimed Abrego-Garcia was MS-13 was a dirty cop that was indicted just weeks after fraudulently arresting him

whose side are y'all on? he's ms-31! which if my math is correct, is like two and a half times worse than ms-13.

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32 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

whose side are y'all on? he's ms-31! which if my math is correct, is like two and a half times worse than ms-13.

MS-31 flavors

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On 4/15/2025 at 1:36 PM, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

So, I'm coming back into the country on Friday. Is the Surly law mafia ready to engage if I get detained?

I found that I needed to reacquaint myself with the $800 duty free limit. It hasn't been raised since 2015 so it's awfully low. The cbp dude at EWR was quite an asshole as he played a little game of gotcha. (Didn't have any issues in January at DFW, nor in October at DEN.)

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4 hours ago, royiv said:

MS-31 flavors

Those are all fronts for cartel money laundering via supposed ice cream sales. Look no further than the TCBY on MLK for supporting evidence. Yes, MS-31 Flavors and TCBY are both in on the grift.

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Posted
2 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

Those are all fronts for cartel money laundering via supposed ice cream sales. Look no further than the TCBY on MLK for supporting evidence. Yes, MS-31 Flavors and TCBY are both in on the grift.

Now this, this is I believe 

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10 hours ago, Stringer said:

If you guys are looking to put some money out there to help immigrants, may I suggest the EDSBS/ShutownFullcast Charity Bowl?  Every year they do this for American Pathways, which is a resettlement group.  They are obviously having a hard time as funding has been cut by the government and there is a lot of uncertainty.  Last year, I think they raised over $1M through this drive and are trying to surpass that.

Since this is a college football (former) blog and podcast, they track it by school and have rivalries.  Right now, A&M is beating our ass ($47K to $4K), so let's get that number up.  https://www.moneycannon.org/?t=leaderboard

They also encourage your donation to be a number that has meaning to the college football fandom.  For instance, I put up $490 a couple years ago in honor of 49-0 over OU.  People do rushing yards, pass completions, etc etc.  

Anyway, if you're so inclined, it is greatly appreciated by this charity and the immigrants that depend on it:

https://fundraise.givesmart.com/e/k-yA-Q?vid=1iywsc

Follow edsbs on bluesky for some hilarious updates. There are still some OU fans giving $77.00 for their score against A&M. I once gave $62.79 for RIckey's yardage total.

 

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11 hours ago, Stringer said:

Right now, A&M is beating our ass ($47K to $4K), so let's get that number up

Yeah, not saying I don’t believe you, but I don’t believe you. Aggy doesn’t seem the type to give a ton of money to help immigrants. 

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21 hours ago, Captain Ron said:

Let's not forget about Rumeysa Ozturk who had her day in court yesterday (hits close to home as she was kidnapped about 2.75 miles from my house). The defense was a habeas corpus petition for Constitutional violations by the government. While the government did a lot of hand waving "wrong state", "our fault you didn't know which state, but doesn't matter" etc.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/14/us/rumeysa-ozturk-arrest-update-tufts-university/index.html

As noted over the weekend even the State Dept knew she had no links to any sort of antisemitism or terrorism. Her only "crime" was writing an op-ed in the student paper speaking out against the University's response to the Israel-Gaza war.

https://wapo.st/4iouvuJ


She was denied bond. Just seeing the news break, so more details soon.

The more I’m reading this a load of hogwash. She’s been denied bonded in Louisiana where only the US attorneys presented anything. This has a little to do with her day in court in Vermont.

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I don't see anything about this up on NY Times or WashPo, but the Boston Globe has this up:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/04/17/metro/rumeysa-ozturk-immigration-denied-bond/?s_campaign=breakingnews:newsletter

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A federal immigration judge Wednesday denied bond to Rümeysa Öztürk, the Tufts graduate student who was taken into custody by immigration enforcement agents last month in Somerville and whisked off to a detention facility in Louisiana.

During the immigration hearing in Louisiana, which was closed to the press, government lawyers contended that Öztürk was both “a flight risk and a danger to the community,” according to a document filed by her lawyer in a separate case in Vermont.

In the document, her lawyers asked that the US District Court judge in her Vermont proceedings order her to be sent from Louisiana to Vermont by Friday.

Öztürk, a Turkish national and Fulbright scholar pursuing a doctorate in child and human development, was arrested while walking on a sidewalk by masked federal immigration agents on March 25, and was brought within a day to a rural Louisiana detention facility, where she has been held since in spite of raising health concerns. Her visa had been revoked days before her arrest, though she hadn’t been notified that was the case.

Authorities arrested Öztürk under the Trump administration’s pledge to deport students here on a visa who had, under the administration’s view, expressed antisemitic views. Öztürk had coauthored a pro-Palestinian op-ed for the Tufts student newspaper, but her lawyers argued her deportation on those grounds would violate her First Amendment right to free speech, and that her detention violates her rights to due process.

“The immigration judge denied bond based on her untenable conclusion that Ms. Öztürk was both a flight risk and a danger to the community,” her lawyers wrote in a petition, asking the Vermont judge to issue a court order. “The immigration judge’s decision was based solely on the [government] memorandum, which points to no conduct of Ms. Öztürk’s except her co-authorship of an op-ed that the [government] memo asserts had ‘found common cause with an organization that was later temporarily banned from campus’.”

The government hasn’t charged Öztürk with a crime.

The night she was arrested, her lawyers filed an emergency petition challenging her detention and the revocation of her student visa. At the time, ICE had already transported her to Vermont. Öztürk was held in that state overnight, then flown to Louisiana the following day.

Her case was transferred to Vermont on April 4 after a federal judge in Boston decided it was the proper venue, denying the government’s request to dismiss her petition or transfer the case to a more favorable venue in Louisiana.

The judge barred the government from deporting Öztürk unless, and until, the Vermont court orders otherwise.

Earlier this month, the Vermont judge denied a request to order her release, saying he first needed to decide which court her case would play out in.

In an affidavit, Öztürk, 30, said she had been living in fear since February, when Canary Mission, an anonymous website purporting to expose “people and groups that promote hatred of the USA, Israel and Jews,” publicly identified her online along with more than 1,800 students at universities across the United States and Canada.

Öztürk wrote in the affidavit that she believed she was being abducted by people who wanted to harm her and feared for her life as she was transferred out of the state.

“I thought this was a strange situation and was sure they were going to kill me,” she wrote.

Öztürk said she experienced several asthma attacks during her journey from Somerville to Louisiana and made multiple requests to speak with her attorney that were denied, according to the affidavit. She was not allowed access to a lawyer for more than 24 hours after she was apprehended, the affidavit said.
 

 

WashPo has an article up now: https://wapo.st/3Gqh9AF

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Canary Mission is an anonymously-run doxing[1] website established in 2014 that publishes the personal information of students, professors, and organizations that it describes as anti-Israel or antisemitic, focusing primarily on people at North American universities.[2][3][4] Critics have described it as weaponizing the accusation of antisemitism in order to silence critique of Israel.[1]

Canary Mission's published materials have been described as a blacklist.[5][6] Profiles are publicly-available online and intended for wide use, and Canary Mission may actively send them to employers.[7] Known users of the profiles include Israeli intelligence organizations Ministry of Strategic Affairs[1][8][9] and Shin Bet,[1] which interrogate and deny entry to American citizens.[9][10][11] In March 2025, multiple foreign students with Canary Mission profiles were detained by the United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement.[12]

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Canary Mission's work toward silencing critique of Israel is controversial.[5][13][6] Its tactics have been compared to McCarthyism[14][4] and the makeup and reliability of profiles have been questioned.

Canary Mission does not publish information about who operates or funds it.[1][5][13][6] In 2018, The Intercept reported that the website was adding students to its lists solely following their participation in Students for Justice in Palestine activities. They also reported that Canary Mission perfectly articulated its vision and strategy in its April 2015 debut video. The two-minute clip features images of Jews with yellow stars on their clothes, followed by images of hijab-clad women waving Palestinian flags. The video’s female narrator closes by saying, "It is your duty to ensure that today’s radicals are not tomorrow’s employees."[5]

Although Canary Mission's website states that it is a nonprofit organization, no organization with the name Canary Mission is registered with the IRS. While Canary Mission's website provides a way to donate to the organization via debit or credit card, there is no public record of Canary Mission's sponsors or donors.[3][26] Multiple pro-Israel organizations have denied having any affiliation with Canary Mission.[11]

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14 hours ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

Follow edsbs on bluesky for some hilarious updates. There are still some OU fans giving $77.00 for their score against A&M. I once gave $62.79 for RIckey's yardage total.

 

Yeah, for sure.  Holly Anderson posts some great ones too.  Unreal drive.

I just did $413 in honor of 4th and 13 in the Peach Bowl.

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On 4/16/2025 at 4:47 PM, Captainant said:

Yeah dude, we're shipping them to fucking conentration camps. No fuckin shit they're not getting any due process. The fascists have figured out how to weaponize the legal system to slow their enemies and accelerate their own schemes. @Frank Drebin has been casting all sorts of accusations of "lawfare" and wouldn't ya know it, there's the lawfare in action now. It's just being applied against the general population, and the good deacon's enemies in particular

@Frank Drebin is a misogynistic cunt. It should not shock anyone that he graduated undergrad from ACU. Fuck him.

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48 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

@Frank Drebin is a misogynistic cunt. It should not shock anyone that he graduated undergrad from ACU. Fuck him.

Just when I thought he couldn't appear more distasteful than he already does..

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4 minutes ago, safe sex said:

 

Just when I thought he couldn't appear more distasteful than he already does..

I'm done playing nice with cunts like him. He will come back in a bit with an excuse (spending time with his wife, who most likely married him for his money and only puts up with his sorry ass to fund her lifestyle blog/kids who will end up hating him when they realize what a piece of shit he is) then double down on his hate and tell all of us how we are so miserable cause we are unmarried with no kids. Immamac should have jettisoned his ass years ago. Icono as well. They bring nothing but hate to this site.

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ICE is holding a US citizen:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/us-born-citizen-detained-ice-immigration-florida-rcna201800

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A U.S.-born American citizen was being detained at the request of immigration authorities Thursday despite an advocate showing his U.S. birth certificate in court and a county judge finding no reason for him to be considered an “illegal alien” who illegally entered Florida.

Juan Carlos Gomez-Lopez, 20, was arrested Thursday evening by Florida Highway Patrol and charged under a state immigration law that has been temporarily blocked since early this month. Details of Gomez-Lopez’s arrest and detention were first reported by the Florida Phoenix news site.

After inspecting his birth certificate, Leon County Judge LaShawn Riggans said during the hearing that “this is indeed an authentic document,” but that she did not have jurisdiction beyond finding no probable cause for the charge.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s role is to enforce immigration laws that generally apply to noncitizens. American citizens are protected under the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution from unreasonable search and seizure, arrest and detention.

Nonetheless, he remains detained locally at ICE’s request, said Thomas Kennedy, a spokesperson at the Florida Immigrant Coalition who attended Thursday’s hearing.

“Everything tracks for him being sent to be an ICE detention center,” he told NBC News in a phone interview.

NBC News has reached out to state and federal authorities for comment.

Gomez-Lopez was in a vehicle with other passengers and was traveling to work from Georgia when they were stopped after entering Florida.

A sweeping immigration law signed by Gov. Ron DeSantis in 2023 makes it a state crime for an undocumented immigrant over age 18 to enter the state illegally.

Gomez-Lopez was born in Georgia but lived much of his life in Mexico. His first language is Tzotzil, a Mayan language, the Florida Phoenix reported.

His mother burst into tears when she saw her son virtually at his hearing, the news site reported.

“I felt immense helplessness because I couldn’t do anything, and I am desperate to get my son out of there,” she told the Florida Phoenix.

Kennedy compared the situation to Franz Kafka’s novel “The Trial” in which man must defend himself against a charge but has no information about it.

“It’s like this bureaucratic, dystopian nightmare of poorly written laws,” Kennedy said. “We are living in a time when this man could get sent to El Salvador because, what, is he going to be treated like a stateless person?”

Kennedy was referring to the hundreds of immigrants who have been sent by the Trump administration to an El Salvador megaprison after they were accused of being gang members under the wartime Alien Enemies Act. Families, attorneys and some U.S. legislators have not been able to have any contact with them.

 

 

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A Vermont Judge has ordered Ozturk be transfered from Louisiana to Vermont. News broke about 15-20 minutes ago.

 

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/04/18/nation/trump-presidency-live-updates/?s_campaign=breakingnews:newsletter

 

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Judge orders detained Tufts PhD student be transferred from Louisiana to Vermont ahead of bail hearing — 6:05 p.m.

By Samantha J. Gross, Globe Staff

A federal judge in Vermont ordered Rümeysa Öztürk, the Tufts PhD student detained by ICE last month and sent to a detention facility in Louisiana, be sent to Vermont by May 1 ahead of a May 9 bail hearing.

In a 74-page ruling filed Friday night, Judge William K. Sessions III wrote that “Öztürk has raised significant constitutional concerns with her arrest and detention which merit full and fair consideration in this forum.”

“Accordingly, the Court denies the government’s request to dismiss the Petition and orders that Ms. Öztürk be transferred to ICE custody within the District of Vermont.”

The move comes in response to a petition by Öztürk’s lawyers Wednesday night asking the judge order her to be sent from Louisiana to Vermont by Friday.

Öztürk’s case was transferred to Vermont on April 4 after a federal judge in Boston decided it was the proper venue, denying the government’s request to dismiss her petition or transfer the case to a more favorable venue in Louisiana.

In the order filed Friday, Sessions wrote that the federal government ignored the order from the federal judge in Boston entirely.

“Ignoring an order, particularly one issued on an emergency basis in response to events that are currently unfolding, is not the approach the Court expects from the government,” he wrote. “The remedy for the government ignoring the March 25, 2025, order is simple. Ms. Ozturk should be returned to the status quo at the time of issuance when she was in custody in the District of Vermont.”

A federal immigration judge in Louisiana denied bond to Öztürk this week after government lawyers contended that Öztürk was both “a flight risk and a danger to the community.”

Öztürk, a Turkish national and Fulbright scholar pursuing a doctorate in child and human development, was arrested while walking on a sidewalk by masked federal immigration agents on March 25, and was brought within a day to a rural Louisiana detention facility, where she has been held since in spite of raising health concerns. Her visa had been revoked days before her arrest, though she hadn’t been notified that was the case.

 

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On 4/16/2025 at 10:22 AM, Foosters said:

His crusade against lawfare was obviously trolling 101. He was lobbing accusations of "lawfare" while his candidate files 60+ suits all over the country with bogus affidavits and straight up lies in order to steal an election he lost.

And now we've got his side extorting law firms who dared oppose him, pulling funding from universities unless they admit more MAGA students, freezing funds to states that he is mad at, and sending his goons to arrest persons who voice opinions different than his.

But yeah, he's VERY concerned when the legal system is abused.

Not to mention all the bullshit defamation cases he filed.  And that legal abortion he filed against Hildawg and everyone in sight, and  the DTPA in Amarillo against CBS, that has now turned into a Lanham Act 43(a) case for fuck's sake.

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This is a test. Just like J6. Just like erasing thousands of public servants from their jobs.

If I have to spell it out further you are fucking retarded.

In the clinical sense. Not the figurative sense.

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