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6 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

They apparently surveilled this girl for two full days and then kidnapped her off the streets for the crime of writing a completely banal op ed that was mildly critical of how Tufts responded to a student government vote

'member when wearing a mask was the worst thing you could do near a protest? I 'member. 

Almost like it was never about the masks and just an excuse to exercise their authoritarian supremacist reflexes

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5 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

1) We have Secret Police here in the US.

2) They are grabbing people off the street and "disappearing them" (when you take someone into custody and don't reveal where they are being held, that is being "disappeared")

3) The reason for doing so (if this story is accurate, and she did not commit any physical crime) is because they have voiced opinions -- not a call for violence, but opinions -- that are not favored by The Party.

 

Literally all of the shit we called East Germany, the USSR, Nazi Germany "shitholes" for......we are fucking all-in on, and it is supported and cheered by posters on this site.  They see an American Stasi, and they can barely contain their glee.

And y'all say I'm out there for saying this fucking Republic is over, dead, and gone.  We are fucking East Germany with nukes.

@Gucci_Suit but don’t call them nazis!!

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Johnny Come Lately said:

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There’s always more to the story than initially shared here. If you openly share views like this, you shouldn’t be granted a VISA to my country. Nothing good to come from this guy being here. Sorry, not sorry.

Why did you quote me to post tweets from someone unrelated to the story I had posted?

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Quick question- do visa and green card holders have the full protections of the US constitution, or are they considered different than citizens for things like free speech?

obviously not rounded up and locked away, but revocation and deportation maybe?

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Just now, Pato del Muerto said:

Quick question- do visa and green card holders have the full protections of the US constitution, or are they considered different than citizens for things like free speech?

obviously not rounded up and locked away, but revocation and deportation maybe?

14th amendment says people, not citizens

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11 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

14th amendment says people, not citizens

The current admin doesn’t see them as people though 

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49 minutes ago, Johnny Come Lately said:

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There’s always more to the story than initially shared here. If you openly share views like this, you shouldn’t be granted a VISA to my country. Nothing good to come from this guy being here. Sorry, not sorry.

So if Dems take back the White House you'd be fine with them forcibly grabbing and indefinitely detaining Visa holders who have publicly supported the MAGA agenda? 

Or is it a one way street in your mind?

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Quick question- do visa and green card holders have the full protections of the US constitution, or are they considered different than citizens for things like free speech?
obviously not rounded up and locked away, but revocation and deportation maybe?

Even the reptilian Justice Scalia believed you get full protections not otherwise designated to citizens (i guess like voting). It’s a slam dunk.
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Posted
2 minutes ago, Johnny Come Lately said:

Terrible take. Not to the vast majority of Americans. Surly has lost its way. It's really unfortunate

 

Lost its way? You just joined an hour ago. You’re brand new here. Or are you just a sock that doesn’t want to make your shitty takes under your real username?

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Johnny Come Lately said:

There's nothing trollish about presenting the entire context behind one of the stories posted here and then debating the implications. It shouldn't upset anyone.

But should we grant usernames to trolls?

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39 minutes ago, Johnny Come Lately said:

Should we grant VISAs to people openly hostile to our country? My answer is hell no. Maybe that is what some posters here think. I'd like to hear that justification. And, if you get here and start being hostile like Mr. Taal, then you should be kicked out. You're a guest here.

Support for MAGA agenda isn't in the same universe as support for Hamas.

Support for Palestinian emancipation and dignity is not support for Hamas, dipshit.

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48 minutes ago, Johnny Come Lately said:

Should we grant VISAs to people openly hostile to our country? 

Opposition to American empire equals hostility to America? Someone should tell Donald Trump that before he finishes tearing the empire down. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, royiv said:

MAGA is a greater threat to the safety of more Americans than Hamas is. 

A much more fair statement but that’s not what you said at first. You should stay off ledges where Brisket is perched. You tend to stay stupid shit there. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Rex Kramer said:

A much more fair statement but that’s not what you said at first. You should stay off ledges where Brisket is perched. You tend to stay stupid shit there. 

Okay, smart guy.

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1 hour ago, Rex Kramer said:

A much more fair statement but that’s not what you said at first. You should stay off ledges where Brisket is perched. You tend to stay stupid shit there. 

Well let’s see, Hamas is a political organization with a military wing. Hey look, MAGA is a political organization with a military wing. Interesting. Hamas promotes Palestinian nationalism, MAGA promotes white nationalism. Interestinger. Hamas uses forms of terrorism, MAGA uses forms of terrorism. 
 

You also admit that far more Americans feel threatened by MAGA than they do Hamas. It certainly sounds like support for MAGA is in the same ballpark as Hamas 

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1 hour ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Well let’s see, Hamas is a political organization with a military wing. Hey look, MAGA is a political organization with a military wing. Interesting. Hamas promotes Palestinian nationalism, MAGA promotes white nationalism. Interestinger. Hamas uses forms of terrorism, MAGA uses forms of terrorism. 
 

You also admit that far more Americans feel threatened by MAGA than they do Hamas. It certainly sounds like support for MAGA is in the same ballpark as Hamas 

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Posted
18 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

"Existential" and "external" are different words that mean different things. You're really not beating those illiteracy allegations. 

Oh I’m highly aware of the difference. The point you were making was crazy. I get that you want to be critical of Bibi in the most hyperbolic manner, but you’re wrong, laughably so, and anyone who agreed with you is too. Why are you cluttering up this thread with Israel?  Stop. 

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48 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Oh I’m highly aware of the difference. The point you were making was crazy. I get that you want to be critical of Bibi in the most hyperbolic manner, but you’re wrong, laughably so, and anyone who agreed with you is too. Why are you cluttering up this thread with Israel?  Stop. 

Are you serious, dude? The Hamas shit was brought up by the dumbass troll sock that @immamac nuked and people were simply pushing back on that. You are the one that came in here to derail [another] thread by crying about the objectively true statement: That MAGA is a far more serious threat to American than Hamas is. If you can't understand what that statement means, let me break it down for you:

  • MAGA is in America. It is currently actively destroying the administrative state in the United States, among other things. It is objectively a serious threat to America as we know it.
  • Hamas is in Gaza. It has no power outside of Gaza. It is no threat to America whatsoever.

THAT'S ALL HE WAS SAYING.

No one fucking said anything about Bibi except for you or in response to you. You're the one cluttering up the thread. You. SHUT THE FUCK UP.

I realize that this is your shtick, to come in and derail the fucking thread and then report anyone that calls you out to the mods to try and get them banned, but please, for all our sanity, give it a fucking rest for once. PLEASE.

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Have had multiple patients who are keeping their passports on them at all times now. My heart broke the first time one of them pulled out the little blue book before weighing himself.

Absolutely unreal. We are a "Papers, Please" country, and we all know that having your papers doesn't even necessarily matter either.

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Posted
3 hours ago, safe sex said:

Have had multiple patients who are keeping their passports on them at all times now. My heart broke the first time one of them pulled out the little blue book before weighing himself.

Absolutely unreal. We are a "Papers, Please" country, and we all know that having your papers doesn't even necessarily matter either.

I’ve never been more embarrassed to be an American. I was mortified after 2016 and more so after our pandemic “response”. But the feeling I have now? America is on life support for me. I never thought I would have to even think about carrying my passport with me just in case I get harassed by federal agents. I’m still in disbelief that we just threw it all away

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Posted
8 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

I’ve never been more embarrassed to be an American. I was mortified after 2016 and more so after our pandemic “response”. But the feeling I have now? America is on life support for me. I never thought I would have to even think about carrying my passport with me just in case I get harassed by federal agents. I’m still in disbelief that we just threw it all away

Personally?  I'm actually kinda hoping that some gestapo dumbass makes the mistake of arresting, disappearing, and deporting me.

I have the means to get help (financial and otherwise) wherever I end up, rather quickly.  I have the legal resources at hand (real-deal friends and some rather skilled acquaintances) to fight back and make as big a fuss and test case as you can imagine.  I'm real close to wishing a muthafucka would.  Because I am a dream plaintiff.  That's what we need, for these overreaching fascists to fuck with the wrong plaintiff.

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