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As a previous private sector employee and current gov employee I can say they both have a lot of the same faults and issues. I’ve seen a lot more waste at public companies by far. Gov has auditing out the ass and lots of red tape but those are usually laws etc implemented by your elected officials.

Yeah the gov wastes money but is very very cheap on most shit for employees.

I need to renew my family’s passports asap.

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10 hours ago, DixonHur said:

You don't think the red states will begin to purge the public sector too?  I could definitely see hot wheels going in that direction.

I mean hot wheels and his compatriots have been in charge for 30 years, why not done?

Texas state government should be a paragon of efficiency if you believe what these assmonkeys tell us.  Take, for example, DPS.

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2 hours ago, Updawg said:

They fired the IG’s. I wonder if they will gut all auditors next. Get rid of journalists next and you have a free for all for those in power

Isn’t that what’s already happening now? They don’t give a fuck what any journalists think. They don’t even give a shit what Congress thinks. 

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5 hours ago, Vegas64 said:

Refund? I'm scared to death of how much I will owe this year and delaying the inevitable. The one positive outcome from this goat rodeo is if the IRS was somehow neutered and fell apart, but I'm just not that lucky. I expect to be charged double by mistake and have zero recourse.

I filed mine early. I already have 35 years in, but every year I continue to work they replace a low paying year with my current salary. And then it takes a long time for their paperwork to catch up (normally the following October ) and they figure the 35 best years and I always get an increase in my Social Security in addition to the cola.  

I figured that if enough of them lost their jobs and/or did not give a crap anymore - that this increase would be delayed. Or mistakes might be made.  So I filed two weeks ago and I’m hoping they’ll give me my extra hundred bucks a month forever when they do that calculation.  

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22 hours ago, Goredho said:

I honestly have no problem with the idea that the federal government needs a good trimming.   It would be nice if this could be done in a throttled fashion, say over a couple years to "flatten the curve" of joblessness and all of its known and unknown effects and to provide for the ability to pause and pivot if/when damaging effects arise, but that runs into midterms.  I imagine that is why this has been outsourced to our unelected modern-day Howard Hughes to execute.  He need only answer to the President, not voters.  The elected politicians can take credit for the good and avoid blame for the bad.

Go ahead and say which curve needs trimming or flattening. There's no "good" that comes out of a criminal eliminating the federal agencies that regulate his businesses. There's no good that comes out of massive breaches in the law and a breach of the constitutional order. To think otherwise is highly ignorant and downright delusional. 

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All nonfarm, non-USPS employees nationwide, the percent of whom are federal. 

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18 hours ago, bolverk said:

But even with involuntary layoffs, achieving Mr. Musk’s goal of major budgetary savings through staff reductions cannot easily be achieved without reductions in workers who provide popular public services.

Average pay for federal workers is about $106,000, meaning the annual savings from salary alone, just to use 65,000 workers as a benchmark, could amount to around $6.9 billion per year (Mr. Musk has said the broader goal of his Department of Government Efficiency is to cut government spending by $4 billion a day). The Congressional Budget Office has estimated that the government spent roughly $271 billion compensating federal civilian employees in 2022, with more than half of that going to the Department of Defense, the Department of Veterans Affairs and the Department of Homeland Security.

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had anyone previously seen the bolded doge target of a $4B/day reduction in spend?

i spent a few minutes trying to ai the math

the us spent 6.75T last year which is 18.5B/day

4b a day is a 22% reduction

i started adding up the cost of employees at $106k average salary and if they wipe out hhs, agriculture, commerce, energy, epa & other (and this was napkin math) they don't even break a billion

hopefully atlantic or axios or guardian or somebody is working through this this weekend so we can game this out and the dems and press can go on the attack

there should be a call for hearings and haul musk in front of a committee - if he needs $4b a day, how is he going to get it?  - tell us now

 

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10 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

had anyone previously seen the bolded doge target of a $4B/day reduction in spend?

i spent a few minutes trying to ai the math

the us spent 6.75T last year which is 18.5B/day

4b a day is a 22% reduction

i started adding up the cost of employees at $106k average salary and if they wipe out hhs, agriculture, commerce, energy, epa & other (and this was napkin math) they don't even break a billion

hopefully atlantic or axios or guardian or somebody is working through this this weekend so we can game this out and the dems and press can go on the attack

there should be a call for hearings and haul musk in front of a committee - if he needs $4b a day, how is he going to get it?  - tell us now

 

While I totally agree, I don’t think Musk or Trump are the kind that explain themselves, provide transparency or feel the need to answer to anyone.  There is a reason the founding fathers wanted a system of checks and balances.  Because they were leaving a monarchy where power was consolidated into a single individual that answered to only themselves and whatever conscience they possessed.

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27 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

there should be a call for hearings and haul musk in front of a committee - if he needs $4b a day, how is he going to get it?  - tell us now

The target is not really $4 billion a day, it’s the agencies that Musk hates.  

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It will also be a 1,000 dumb things like now it takes 6 months to renew your passport, if you're lucky.

Yup. My brother works for a Gov. contractor who verify then print passports. They all got their Fork in the Road e-mails.
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31 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

The target is not really $4 billion a day, it’s the agencies that Musk hates.  

 

We've yet to hear of DOGE entering the Pentagon, the CIA in Langley or the FBI offices with their laptops, ready to rumble.  I doubt they ever will.

 

 

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