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I think after yesterday's occurrence, Nancy merits her own thread. I struggled with this thread title. Earlier in the week, somebody mentioned that Nancy was perhaps showing signs of mental illness. She's definitely gone deep into the MTG/Boobert "crazy" playbook. Then, yesterday, in Congress she unloads for nearly an hour about surviving sexual assault at the hands of her former fiance and supposedly others.

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WashingtonCNN — As Rep. Nancy Mace prepared to speak, she took out a Bible and — as if she were in a courtroom, instead of on the House floor — she placed her right hand and swore to tell the “whole truth.”

The South Carolina congresswoman then delivered a damning 53-minute speech that has no precedent in the chamber’s history. Describing herself as “going scorched earth,” Mace accused her ex-fiancé of “evil” crimes including physical assault, rape and sex trafficking against her and other women — accusing him and several other men by name on the floor. While Mace did not provide specific evidence of her claims, she said she brought the case to state authorities for further investigation.

“Tonight is about justice for me and tonight is about justice for all of the women that you all raped, that you all filmed, that you all photographed, that you all abused for years,” Mace said on the floor, in a tone that alternated between somber and scorching. Three other GOP women, Reps. Anna Paulina Luna, Lauren Boebert and Victoria Spartz, sat behind her, listening closely, while Mace’s mother sat in the House gallery above.

South Carolina’s top law enforcement agency confirmed to CNN that they opened an investigation into “allegations of assault, harassment, and voyeurism on December 14, 2023, after being contacted by the United States Capitol Police.” They said the subject of their investigation is Patrick Bryant, who is Mace’s ex-fiancé. The agency described the ongoing case as “complex” and said it has “conducted multiple interviews, served multiple search warrants, and has a well-documented case file.” Capitol Police did not respond to requests for more information from CNN.

In a statement to the Associated Press, Bryant strongly denied that what Mace said was true.

“I categorically deny these allegations. I take this matter seriously and will cooperate fully with any necessary legal processes to clear my name,” Bryant told the Associated Press.

The stirring and highly unusual speech has reverberated across South Carolina politics. Mace, who is weighing a run for governor, went after her ex-fiancé, a local South Carolina businessman and his associates by name — seemingly protecting herself from libel laws by using the House’s “speech and debate” clause that protects speech on the floor.

CNN has attempted to reach out to the men Mace named. The former fiancé denied all charges in his statement to the Associated Press.

Mace also accused her home state’s attorney general, Alan Wilson, who is also mulling a gubernatorial run, of ignoring her allegations. Wilson also happens to be the son of Rep. Joe Wilson — who has served alongside Mace in the House since her arrival in 2021.

On the floor, Mace stood beside a giant posterboard labeled “PREDATORS,” with her ex-fiancé and the other men’s photos marked with their names. She had displayed a posterboard with Wilson’s face, describing him as a “DO NOTHING ATTORNEY GENERAL.” In a lengthy statement, Wilson’s office firmly denied Mace’s claims, saying the office “has not received any reports or requests for assistance from any law enforcement or prosecution agencies regarding these matters.”

Some of the speech described what she called her own low point: Fleeing her home, going “into hiding” and experiencing PTSD after she claimed she discovering alarming videos on her ex-fiancé’s phone, and later, security cameras. At other points, she accused the men of what she called “premeditated, calculated exploitation” of other women, including some who were underage. She claimed she had found 10,633 separate hidden-camera videos detailing these claims.

“Today I’m going to free myself from the monster who broke me,” Mace said, in a speech that quoted both from the Bible and from Martin Luther King Jr.

Mace has not shied away during her political career from sharing her past traumas. She shared an emotional account of being raped as a teenager in a debate about an abortion bill in the South Carolina Legislature before being elected to Congress.

As Mace left the floor Monday night, she wore a red sticker on her dress that read “SURVIVOR.”

CNN’s Veronica Stracqualursi contributed to this report.

Is Patrick Bryant the one who Nancy Mace said to a prayer breakfast was trying to coax her into morning sex before that meeting?

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She stated a litany of acts and evidence.  I mean, literally tens of thousands of pieces of evidence.  And a pretty outrageous and comprehensive story/conspiracy ripped from a Q-anon board.

She provided/displayed.....not a single piece of that purported evidence.  10,633 hidden cam videos.  She didn't even provide a screenshot of one of those videos (she could even record it on her own phone).  Nothing.  Nada.

She is bona fide insane.  She is also one of the most powerful people in the country and has the ear of the POTUS.

 

This fucking timeline.

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re: thread title - both can be true. and one could be caused by the other. don't understand why we live in such a black and white world - everything is gray. just ask a dog

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2 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

re: thread title - both can be true. and one could be caused by the other. don't understand why we live in such a black and white world - everything is gray. just ask a dog

She didn't tell a story about a sexual assault.  That kind of story would at least merit consideration.  Nope, she told a story of a vast web and conspiracy of sex trafficking, 10,000 videos, etc. etc. etc.  It was fever-dream shit.

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

She didn't tell a story about a sexual assault.  That kind of story would at least merit consideration.  Nope, she told a story of a vast web and conspiracy of sex trafficking, 10,000 videos, etc. etc. etc.  It was fever-dream shit.

I was not referring to yesterday exclusively. she has history and she needs help. she sure as shit does not need to be in government

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2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

She didn't tell a story about a sexual assault.  That kind of story would at least merit consideration.  Nope, she told a story of a vast web and conspiracy of sex trafficking, 10,000 videos, etc. etc. etc.  It was fever-dream shit.

Also, irrelevant to any congressional proceeding and prima-facie defamatory.  But made in a congressional speech, so immunized under Speech and Debate.

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She is bat shit crazy and should seek out psychiatric care. Unfortunately bat shit crazy is part of the Republican platform so she will be the S.C. governor soon.

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She may be certainly be crazy, but I get the sense she is just trying consolidate power via instigating various witch-hunts and weaponizing the Speech and Debate immunity a La Joseph McCarthy.

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1 minute ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I think she is bat shit, but I would not be shocked if she has been assaulted in the past.  Most women have experienced a form of sexual assault, and most do not come forward.

This. 
 

she’s a batshit stupid fucking cunt, but the actual odds she’s been SA’ed are quite high. 
 

deeply ingrained rape culture out front shoulda told you

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Wasn't she the first female graduate from West Point or something like that?  Prior SA is guaranteed.  Still (or maybe as a result) bat shit crazy. 

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

She stated a litany of acts and evidence.  I mean, literally tens of thousands of pieces of evidence.  And a pretty outrageous and comprehensive story/conspiracy ripped from a Q-anon board.

She provided/displayed.....not a single piece of that purported evidence.  10,633 hidden cam videos.  She didn't even provide a screenshot of one of those videos (she could even record it on her own phone).  Nothing.  Nada.

She is bona fide insane.  She is also one of the most powerful people in the country and has the ear of the POTUS.

 

This fucking timeline.

She read that the speech and debate clause gets her absolute immunity for defamation. The “swearing in” just more showmanship for bad faith bull shit

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There's really no way to tell.  She's definitely a lunatic, so she could be making the whole thing up.  But lunatics probably get raped as often as non-lunatics, maybe more, so it could definitely be true.

If she is a victim, then I feel for her.  I feel for her on the lunatic thing, too.

But she is also definitely part of the problem.  The fact that someone like her is able to get, and probably keep, this much power bothers me more than anything else.

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1 hour ago, C-Man said:

I think after yesterday's occurrence, Nancy merits her own thread. I struggled with this thread title. Earlier in the week, somebody mentioned that Nancy was perhaps showing signs of mental illness. She's definitely gone deep into the MTG/Boobert "crazy" playbook. Then, yesterday, in Congress she unloads for nearly an hour about surviving sexual assault at the hands of her former fiance and supposedly others.

Is Patrick Bryant the one who Nancy Mace said to a prayer breakfast was trying to coax her into morning sex before that meeting?

 

Crazy, sure. SA survivor, maybe....

It's almost like all of you silly hypocrites didn't REALLY stand behind your "believe all women" mantra....

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34 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I think she is bat shit, but I would not be shocked if she has been assaulted in the past.  Most women have experienced a form of sexual assault, and most do not come forward.

She probably has assault in her past.  I feel bad for her . . . 

 

 

 

. . . . okay, that's over.

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15 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

Wasn't she the first female graduate from West Point or something like that?  Prior SA is guaranteed.  Still (or maybe as a result) bat shit crazy. 

Citadel.  

 

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38 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

Wasn't she the first female graduate from West Point or something like that?  Prior SA is guaranteed.  Still (or maybe as a result) bat shit crazy. 

 

18 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

Citadel.  

 

If I recall correctly the first female Citadel student, Shannon Faulkner, was a year or two before Mace. She had to take the battle to court to become a full time student like them men. Faulkner was hazed like the male students, and most likely received it more harshly, but she quit within a week or two. I have to guess that it wasn't easy to go through the Citadel basic training and hazing in August in SC. 

The heat calmed down when Mace joined. It also GREATLY helped Mace that her father was a US Army general and more importantly he was the Citadel commandant of cadets at the time. I'm sure it was tough but Mace was never not going to graduate. He's described online as the most decorate graduate of the Citadel.

EDIT: I agree with the comments that both items in the thread subject could be true. 

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24 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

There's really no way to tell.  She's definitely a lunatic, so she could be making the whole thing up.  But lunatics probably get raped as often as non-lunatics, maybe more, so it could definitely be true.

If she is a victim, then I feel for her.  I feel for her on the lunatic thing, too.

But she is also definitely part of the problem.  The fact that someone like her is able to get, and probably keep, this much power bothers me more than anything else.

If she's a victim, I don't feel for her, not even a little bit. She doesn't feel for other victims even after a jury has weighed in and found that rape happened and that the perpetrator defamed her multiple times. Even mocked her experience. Being crazy doesn't justify being a complete cunt to other rape victims when you're seeking consolation for your own experience.

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I know very little about Nancy Mace. I find the below compelling. It articulates my own woke sensibilities about how women are objectified in any context where a name or image appears. And let me be clear, I'm not offended in the name of someone else; I'm offended as a civilized man. I don't care about what someone says or does in privacy. As a public voice this shit is no good. 

Hey, it's Surly won't do. It's a very simple level of decorum to limit the instant comments of "would" followed by dissection of the woman (from any field) and related tales of past sexual exploits. The pat phrase of "Yep, she's batshit crazy but the crazy ones are usually great in the sack," screams incel.

The language described promotes the juvenile insecurity that is relieved by "boys being boys." Grow up.

Lastly, there have been fun exchanges occasionally about something unavoidably sexy. I'm not a prude. Bawdiness is often fun as long as doesn't sound like you're discussing a slab of meat.

There are many guys on here who are so smart and good who do this shit. Please consider before writing some knee jerk banal comment. It's beneath you.

Neg me to oblivion if you must. But as someone trying to be woke without shame, I cannot silently let this stuff pass. It makes me complicit. 

Just think.

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3 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I think she is bat shit, but I would not be shocked if she has been assaulted in the past.  Most women have experienced a form of sexual assault, and most do not come forward.

The two observations could be related. If the experience is true, what impact might that have had on her mental health? It's chicken or the egg. Is she crazy and dreamed this up or did it happen and drive her crazy?

Again, I don't know anything about this woman other than she's Maga. I'd like to have her accusations investigated which they seem to be.

 

3 hours ago, bonnieblue said:

She may be certainly be crazy, but I get the sense she is just trying consolidate power via instigating various witch-hunts and weaponizing the Speech and Debate immunity a La Joseph McCarthy.

What a horrible thing this would. She steps up for something important and worthwhile then diminishes the whole because it's just a ploy for something else. That would be fittingly wicked for a Trumpist, but I can't tell if that's what she's doing. She should be trebucheted into the sea if it's all a lie to gain power.

Thanks for reading.

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24 minutes ago, turtlepond said:

It's almost like all of you silly hypocrites didn't REALLY stand behind your "believe all women" mantra....

I mean....except for the part where nobody (or pretty much nobody) around here ever adopted a "believe all women" mantra.

What most folks adopted was something like my approach: listen to and consider every allegation of SA, and do not immediately dismiss them out-of-hand or turn the exercise into a series of questions of "yeah, but you're a slut who wanted it, right?"

The real problem here is that Mace does NOT allege mere SA.  She alleges a vast conspiracy by a "cabal" involving literally tens of thousands of acts and countless victims.  Without a single shred of evidence other than her bare allegation that was purposefully made in a venue where she is shielded from all consequences of her actions.  "Believe all women" was always bullshit because it would dispense with any burden of proof, substituting a mere "ipse dixit" (because I said so) standard), which is unacceptable for ANY accusation of serious wrongdoing.

Of course, all that has to happen to take her allegations OUTSIDE of the protection of the Speech and Debate clause is for her to say - while not on the House floor during speech - "yes, I stand by everything I said there," or something like that.  An outside-the-chamber adoption of her statements on the floor removes the full breadth of the adopted statements from the protection of the speech and debate clause.  I've seen the EXACT thing happen to an attorney who filed a pleading alleging a LOT of scandalous things -- which is fully protected by the litigation exception to defamation.  But when he then commented to the press on the courthouse steps that "yes, everything we alleged in our pleading is absolutely true," he got sued for defamation and the court found the litigation exception no longer applied.  The only correct answer to such queries is "I offer no comment here, the pleading speaks for itself" or something to that effect.

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Just now, RomaVicta said:

I know very little about Nancy Mace. I find the below compelling. It articulates my own woke sensibilities about how women are objectified in any context where a name or image appears. And let me be clear, I'm not offended in the name of someone else; I'm offended as a civilized man. I don't care about what someone says or does in privacy. As a public voice this shit is no good. 

Hey, it's Surly won't do. It's a very simple level of decorum to limit the instant comments of "would" followed by dissection of the woman (from any field) and related tales of past sexual exploits. The pat phrase of "Yep, she's batshit crazy but the crazy ones are usually great in the sack," screams incel.

The language described promotes the juvenile insecurity that is relieved by "boys being boys." Grow up.

Lastly, there have been fun exchanges occasionally about something unavoidably sexy. I'm not a prude. Bawdiness is often fun as long as doesn't sound like you're discussing a slab of meat.

There are many guys on here who are so smart and good who do this shit. Please consider before writing some knee jerk banal comment. It's beneath you.

Neg me to oblivion if you must. But as someone trying to be woke without shame, I cannot silently let this stuff pass. It makes me complicit. 

Just think.

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The two observations could be related. If the experience is true, what impact might that have had on her mental health? It's chicken or the egg. Is she crazy and dreamed this up or did it happen and drive her crazy?

Again, I don't know anything about this woman other than she's Maga. I'd like to have her accusations investigated which they seem to be.

 

What a horrible thing this would. She steps up for something important and worthwhile then diminishes the whole because it's just a ploy for something else. That would be fittingly wicked for a Trumpist, but I can't tell if that's what she's doing. She should be trebucheted into the see if it's all a lie to gain power.

Thanks for reading.



Still ... would.

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5 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

I know very little about Nancy Mace. I find the below compelling. It articulates my own woke sensibilities about how women are objectified in any context where a name or image appears. And let me be clear, I'm not offended in the name of someone else; I'm offended as a civilized man. I don't care about what someone says or does in privacy. As a public voice this shit is no good. 

Hey, it's Surly won't do. It's a very simple level of decorum to limit the instant comments of "would" followed by dissection of the woman (from any field) and related tales of past sexual exploits. The pat phrase of "Yep, she's batshit crazy but the crazy ones are usually great in the sack," screams incel.

The language described promotes the juvenile insecurity that is relieved by "boys being boys." Grow up.

Lastly, there have been fun exchanges occasionally about something unavoidably sexy. I'm not a prude. Bawdiness is often fun as long as doesn't sound like you're discussing a slab of meat.

There are many guys on here who are so smart and good who do this shit. Please consider before writing some knee jerk banal comment. It's beneath you.

Neg me to oblivion if you must. But as someone trying to be woke without shame, I cannot silently let this stuff pass. It makes me complicit. 

Just think.

image.png.60a563ca4b6d77a59de6b2fb06f0fa16.png

 

The two observations could be related. If the experience is true, what impact might that have had on her mental health? It's chicken or the egg. Is she crazy and dreamed this up or did it happen and drive her crazy?

Again, I don't know anything about this woman other than she's Maga. I'd like to have her accusations investigated which they seem to be.

 

What a horrible thing this would. She steps up for something important and worthwhile then diminishes the whole because it's just a ploy for something else. That would be fittingly wicked for a Trumpist, but I can't tell if that's what she's doing. She should be trebucheted into the see if it's all a lie to gain power.

Thanks for reading.

I do not disagree with you.  That is why I saw her allegations might actually be true.  But, she is still completely fucking crazy, and I do not care what the origin of her crazy is. Her crazy is actually harmful given the power she wields.

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51 minutes ago, turtlepond said:

 

Crazy, sure. SA survivor, maybe....

It's almost like all of you silly hypocrites didn't REALLY stand behind your "believe all women" mantra....

She doesn't believe other women even when a jury finds in their favor. Talk about a hypocrit. She can literally go to hell regardless if her story is true.

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Just now, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I do not disagree with you.  That is why I saw her allegations might actually be true.  But, she is still completely fucking crazy, and I do not care what the origin of her crazy is. Her crazy is actually harmful given the power she wields.

I gather that. I'm not an apologist for the woman. I address what I hilighted from her speech. Her claims are not to be dismissed. She still might be fodder for an industrial grinder if she's bringing down the republic.

Another speculation about her sexual assault history could be the Citadel. The rape of women at other academies has been documented and are horrible. Somebody wrote that Mace's father is a general, so maybe that helped, but I wouldn't count on it.

I'll dive even further into writing about something I don't know about: Maybe her Maga hate roots go back to being often assaulted. Who knows?

I'm interested in seeing how this turns out. She works for and sucks up to a rapist. What is that about?

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5 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

I gather that. I'm not an apologist for the woman. I address what I hilighted from her speech. Her claims are not to be dismissed. She still might be fodder for an industrial grinder if she's bringing down the republic.

Another speculation about her sexual assault history could be the Citadel. The rape of women at other academies has been documented and are horrible. Somebody wrote that Mace's father is a general, so maybe that helped, but I wouldn't count on it.

I'll dive even further into writing about something I don't know about: Maybe her Maga hate roots go back to being often assaulted. Who knows?

I'm interested in seeing how this turns out. She works for and sucks up to a rapist. What is that about?

Stockholm Syndrome?

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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

She stated a litany of acts and evidence.  I mean, literally tens of thousands of pieces of evidence.  And a pretty outrageous and comprehensive story/conspiracy ripped from a Q-anon board.

She provided/displayed.....not a single piece of that purported evidence.  10,633 hidden cam videos.  She didn't even provide a screenshot of one of those videos (she could even record it on her own phone).  Nothing.  Nada.

She is bona fide insane.  She is also one of the most powerful people in the country and has the ear of the POTUS.

 

This fucking timeline.

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7 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

I gather that. I'm not an apologist for the woman. I address what I hilighted from her speech. Her claims are not to be dismissed. She still might be fodder for an industrial grinder if she's bringing down the republic.

Another speculation about her sexual assault history could be the Citadel. The rape of women at other academies has been documented and are horrible. Somebody wrote that Mace's father is a general, so maybe that helped, but I wouldn't count on it.

I'll dive even further into writing about something I don't know about: Maybe her Maga hate roots go back to being often assaulted. Who knows?

I'm interested in seeing how this turns out. She works for and sucks up to a rapist. What is that about?

The foundation of maga is to lie, constantly, about everything. I think its fair, even for a person who generally defaults to "believe all women," to question her account based on that alone. I'm not gonna go there, I have no idea, and she very well may be a victim. I just refuse to waste even an ounce of give a shit on her even if she's telling the truth because her refusal to believe Carroll and presumably others means she's not worth the bandwith. If its true and it results in prosecutions of rapists, I'd be for that obviously, because rapists should be imprisoned. I can support that without giving a shit about her victimhood. 

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She's also the one who made the Prayer Breakfast folks uncomfortable a couple of years back.

“When I woke up this morning at seven, I was getting picked up at 7:45. Patrick, my fiancé, tried to pull me by my waist over this morning in bed and I was like, ‘No, baby, we don’t got time for that this morning. I got to get to the prayer breakfast and I got to be on time.’ A little TMI,” Mace, 45, told fellow Christians at the event.  “I know he can wait … I’ll see him later tonight,” she added as some in the crowd nervously laughed.
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1 hour ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I think she is bat shit, but I would not be shocked if she has been assaulted in the past.  Most women have experienced a form of sexual assault, and most do not come forward.

Yeah, that kind of trauma is crazy-making, for sure.  Daddy issues and related things are not a joke. Or entirely a joke.

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24 minutes ago, Gooby said:

“I know he can wait … I’ll see him later tonight,” she added as some in the crowd nervously laughed tittered.

Fify.  

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24 minutes ago, Gooby said:

She's also the one who made the Prayer Breakfast folks uncomfortable a couple of years back.

 

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“When I woke up this morning at seven, I was getting picked up at 7:45. Patrick, my fiancé, tried to pull me by my waist over this morning in bed and I was like, ‘No, baby, we don’t got time for that this morning. I got to get to the prayer breakfast and I got to be on time.’ A little TMI,” Mace, 45, told fellow Christians at the event.  “I know he can wait … I’ll see him later tonight,” she added as some in the crowd nervously laughed.

I recall a documentary about Ted Haggard, disgraced Christian preacher who eventually got caught with meth and male prostitutes. In the documentary, he was talking about sex with his wife to younger male churchgoers. Not from the pulpit but in casual conversation in front of the camera. It was so weird that anyone would do that with acquaintances or strangers especially in front of a camera.

The fact that Mace made those comments tells me everything I need to know about her. She's some combination of damaged and has zero social/people skills. 

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8 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I recall a documentary about Ted Haggard, disgraced Christian preacher who eventually got caught with meth and male prostitutes. In the documentary, he was talking about sex with his wife to younger male churchgoers. Not from the pulpit but in casual conversation in front of the camera. It was so weird that anyone would do that with acquaintances or strangers especially in front of a camera.

The fact that Mace made those comments tells me everything I need to know about her. She's some combination of damaged and has zero social/people skills

Then there's no room for her at Initech.

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1 hour ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 

Still ... would. 

This is how your name and picture ends on CSPAN.

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2 hours ago, 'stache said:

I literally don't care. She doesn't give a shit when it's other women, so why should anyone care if it's her, even if she's telling the truth?

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/nancy-mace-trump-rape-interview-b2510729.html

 

In an interview with ABC News on Sunday, the congresswoman was repeatedly asked to square her support for Mr Trump against the jury’s findings, while she argued she was being “shamed” for her “political choices” as a rape survivor herself.

“Donald Trump has been found liable for rape by a jury. Donald Trump has been found liable for defaming the victim of that rape by a jury. It’s been affirmed by a judge,” ABC’s This Week host George Stephanopoulos told Ms Mace on Sunday.

“If you want to go ahead and defend a woman who made a mockery out of rape, then you go ahead and do that,” Ms Mace said at one point.

“Well, actually what you’re doing is defending a man who has been found liable for rape, Mr Stephanopoulos replied. “I don’t understand how you can do that.”

"George Slopadopolus is a nasty, nasty man....." -DJT

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She’s a vile human so my empathy to her situation  is at nil, she’s similar to Juanita Broaddrick, imo. JB is the woman who has accused Clinton of raping her back in the 70s yet she’s an ardent Trump supporter, an alleged rape victim supports a serial sexual predator… go figure. 

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Well it was smart for her to smear or report them on the house floor.  So that she makes certain that there is no way for the woman who wants accountability to have any accountability for her actions. 

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3 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Also, irrelevant to any congressional proceeding and prima-facie defamatory.  But made in a congressional speech, so immunized under Speech and Debate.

After Mace and Michael Eric Dyson mixed it up on CNN’s mud wrestling show, the two apparently exchanged contact info after the show. There appeared to be a back and forth of flirtatious text message between the two, which Mace planned to weaponize against the militant black radical. Days later, in a completely unrelated congressional hearing, Mace, after mentioning yet again that she had been raped, read into the congressional record the content of their text exchanges, for the sole purpose of embarrassing Dyson, and proving yet again, just how much men desire her. (I’m glad she put Dyson on blast. That’s what he deserves for even talking with that loon)

If, as she claims, she was sexually assaulted at 14, raped at 16 and yet again years later, it stands to reason why she is so disordered. That is not to say that rape allegations, even by suspect persons, should be dismissed out of hand. All should be taken seriously, and vigorously and thoroughly investigated.

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1 minute ago, Satchel said:

hat is not to say that rape allegations, even by suspect persons, should be dismissed out of hand. All should be taken seriously, and vigorously and thoroughly investigated.

This is accurate.

The problem is one that comes up with respect to ANY statement/allegation.  Once a person has REPEATEDLY demonstrated that they are a lying psychopath.....then their credibility is already destroyed.  It's not destroyed because of what her current allegation is.  It's destroyed because she long ago acted in a way that got here tossed in the "oh...so she's a lying liar who lies all the time" bucket.  It's the boy who cried wolf bit.

It's why we lawyers tell our clients and witnesses over and over NOT to lie on the stand.  Because once the jury figures out you told ONE lie....they tune you out because they conclude that everything else you say is a lie as well.  Once you tell a lie...then you're just another liar.

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