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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/15/zizian-group-killings

The killing of US border patrol agent David Maland near the Canadian border in January and five other homicides in Vermont, Pennsylvania and California have been tied to a cultlike group known as the Zizians.

The group, described as a fringe group of radical Berkeley pseudo-intellectuals, is believed to be behind the double homicide of a wealthy Pennsylvania couple, two knife attacks on a landlord in California and the shootout in Vermont that left one member dead.

Four alleged members of the group are already in cust

 

Along the way, the group is believed to have bought a tugboat in Alaska under a plan to live on it to avoid high rents in northern California. The tugboat, part of the group’s “Rationalist Fleet”, now sits half-submerged near Pillar Point Harbor near San Jose.

Much of what is known about the Zizians’ philosophy is gleaned from online postings in which LaSota wondered what would happen to society if it were stripped of morality through “evil people ganging up to kill off good people” or if the group’s goals “ultimately required sociopathy”.

Been awhile since we had one of these.  
 

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This article is fucking insane

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/new-details-bay-area-zizians-death-cult-20165754.php

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In 2022, in an apparent attempt to evade the law, Ziz faked their own death. A U.S. Coast Guard report stated that Ziz went overboard in San Francisco Bay at approximately 11 p.m. on Aug. 19, 2022, at the midpoint between Oakland Airport and Candlestick Point. Despite hours of searching — in calm seas and clear weather on a 60-degree night — Coast Guard members found no trace of Ziz. An obituary posted to Legacy.com appeared not long after, stating only that LaSota “left our lives but not our hearts on Aug. 19 after a boating accident. Loving adventure, friends and family, music, blueberries, biking, computer games and animals, you are missed.”

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Emma Borhanian, seen here, died in 2022 during an altercation with Vallejo landlord Curtis Lind.

Emma Borhanian was shot dead by Vallejo landlord Curtis Lind in 2022 after Zizians who lived on Lind’s property allegedly attacked him with knives and a samurai sword. Lind was 80 at the time. The parcel of land, on a dead-end street near the Napa River at 633 Third St., was home to numerous recreational vehicles and trailers that had been kitted out for computer programming by the group.

There are profiles on several of the figures in this cult.

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This one has been discussed on the fringes of the news off and on for a while now. The individual in charge has faked their death (at least once) and there are bizarre allegations of Manson-level compulsion among some of the early followers.

Don't forget that there are 340M-ish people in this country. 1% of them have psychopathic tendencies, 3% have sociopath tendencies, approximately 1% are narcissists, and another 5% show Machiavellian tendencies.

The pool of people to hit all on those right now in the US?

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51, which matches up with the FBI estimates of 25 - 50 active serial killers in the US at any point in time.

This just goes back to the simple narrative, it is always worthwhile to be nice to people when you can. You never know how is standing next to you in line...

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18 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

The more you learn about them the crazier it gets. Several excellent podcasts have covered it.

Sounds like 3 more of them were picked up today. Waiting for a real big name report on this to confirm...

This one is WAY out there... not heaven's gate bizzare, but its getting close

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https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/17/us/leader-zizian-group-arrested-linked-to-multiple-killings/index.html

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 Jack Lasota, 34, was arrested Sunday along with Michelle Zajko, 33, of Media, Pennsylvania. They face multiple charges including trespassing, obstructing and hindering and possession of a handgun in the vehicle.

A bail hearing for the the two is scheduled for 11 a.m. Tuesday at Allegany District Court.

 

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44 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

So this guy in Vermont was actually murdered on duty. When's the last time that happened? Kind of weird it wasn't national news

They tried briefly in certain media circles when the reporting focused on the possibility it was a dirty brown migrant killing a BP agent in a shootout. Of course, there was a lot of other shit going on that day which has since sucked up all the oxygen.

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11 hours ago, Upgrayedd said:

Why the fuck does that SFGATE article refer to that Ziz dude (?) in the plural?

you know what crime is worse than serial homicide? misgendering.

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