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4 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

So how do I short the SP 500, Dow, etc?

You should probably sell long dated naked SPY calls.

In all seriousness, lots of ways to put your political convictions to the test in the market if you actually believe them.

 

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3 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Like elections are ways to test libertarian campaign strategies?

Libertarians make for terrible politicians in this and most political environments. The best libertarian oriented politicians, e.g. Justin Amash, will find no or only limited political support. 

 

But none of that has as anything to do with some of you putting real chalk on table.  

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2 hours ago, Disco Strangler said:

Dollar off the cliff means bread lines and bankruptcies and 401k wipeouts.  It also means that all professional sports and leisurely pursuits are wiped out.  Maybe the dipshits (us, collectively) wake up and realize that democracy requires adults + effort.  Who am I kidding?   We are fucked.  

Yeah it's getting harder and harder to envision an outcome that isn't a total catastrophe. Shit is going to get really dark. I wouldn't be surprised if suicide rates are already ticking up due to the constant stream of negative, fascistic, and stupid news, not to mention the many thousands of Americans whose livelihoods have already been seriously  injured by this regime. 

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2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Libertarians make for terrible politicians in this and most political environments. The best libertarian oriented politicians, e.g. Justin Amash, will find no or only limited political support. 

 

But none of that has as anything to do with some of you putting real chalk on table.  

Well, as usual, whatever the hell that means

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2 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Yeah. I’m shorting all that. Sounds like the stupid shit I read about close to retirees pulling down their 401ks in Dec 2016. That didn’t work out so well. America shit is backstopped by aircraft carriers. You got way bigger problems if we have to deploy the backstop. Doesn’t mean that you should not be smart about redeploying your allocations. I’m still transitioning out of spy in shorter horizon plays. But you all should be buying ammo. 

I think the bigger problem will be us realizing our fleet is obsolete when SHTF with China 

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Just now, SubliminalHorn said:

I think the bigger problem will be us realizing our fleet is obsolete when SHTF with China 

If we get overtaken by China or Russia it is only a result of the grift of the US MIC system, and not any reflection of our investment in the so called military industrial base. 

Chart: China Steps Up Military Spending | Statista

 

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I think the bigger problem will be us realizing our fleet is obsolete when SHTF with China 

Or they have just been ripping us off all these years and didn’t have to do R&d
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6 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Trump really means the Gilded Age, between the Civil War and the turn of the 19th Century.  Which was a golden age for oligarchs and pretty shitty for the common man.

But we had no income tax, and big business ran roughshod.

The Gilded Age is a best case scenario. They had the Oligarchs. JP Morgan was doing his best Elon and consulting the President. However, I don't recall a full fascist regime being in the white house. 

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I’m sure in Trump’s pea brain “blue cities” seeing a decline in tourism is a win. His rotting lizard brain has no understanding of second and third order effects. The World Cup in 2026 is going to be a colossal fuck up. 
 

 

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2 hours ago, Firemans4Horn said:

I’m sure in Trump’s pea brain “blue cities” seeing a decline in tourism is a win. His rotting lizard brain has no understanding of second and third order effects. The World Cup in 2026 is going to be a colossal fuck up. 
 

 

Thanks a lot Obama... or Biden... or Hilary's emails

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I have mostly stopped reading politics and political boards because of the level of stupidity. The mental gymnastics by Trump supporters especially in finance, wall street, bankers, etc is mind numbing stupid.

They are going to crash the economy and there is no 4D chess. It is all just stupid and unplanned.

Only coherent policy position is full on corruption.

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14 minutes ago, wackawacka said:

I have mostly stopped reading politics and political boards because of the level of stupidity. The mental gymnastics by Trump supporters especially in finance, wall street, bankers, etc is mind numbing stupid.

They are going to crash the economy and there is no 4D chess. It is all just stupid and unplanned.

Only coherent policy position is full on corruption.

And isolation. With the trade wars, the economic isolation is obvious. But there's also the physical isolation from making the prospect of coming here, even for tourists, so unpleasant no one does. And, if countries start retaliating against our citizens visiting elsewhere, we won't travel. Plus, we're already seeing academics/scientists, even American ones, beginning to flee.

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On 3/27/2025 at 10:31 PM, Updawg said:


Or they have just been ripping us off all these years and didn’t have to do R&d

If you look into the companies that make the ships and check out their board (look into HII) you'll find they really do seem to invest judiciously in R&D and acquisitions.  After checking them out and some of their competitors, it does seem that the defense department does a respectable job in not placing all their eggs in one basket as far as shipbuilding and maintenance goes, however that excludes a few classes of ships (carriers, nuke subs).  

 

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Posted
9 hours ago, Nivek said:

Pretty good interview overall.  


I agree with more than I thought.


However, I see some major flaws in this new right thinking when we start to get to issues of defense, multipolar world, spheres of influence, and American influence.

Actively choosing to go to a multipolar world like an early 20th century Europe / colonial  empires is lunacy. It’s like all these sunsetting boomers, gen x thinkers, and older millennials thought history died at the ended when the internet was invented.

We’ve see  the script before folks. Yes you have to think of the future,  but abandoning the idea of liberal democracy, liberal economic theory, and the idea of the equality of self determinate nation states is throwing the baby out with the bath water.

The pace of technology changes, the internet, social media, and now AI has so warped our brains that ‘move fast and break things’ had taken over all facets of our lives. 
God help us when we need cool headed thinkers, compromise, and rationality. 

 

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