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  On 4/9/2025 at 3:33 PM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Laughable that Trump's team is advocating that it's now Main Street's time to grow after Wall Street has grown over the last 4 decades. The GOP and MAGA have fought every measure to help blue collar and low wage worker. Any measure to protect (safety, security or compensation) has always been shot down as unfair govt intervention in the invisible hand of capitalism.

Hell, Johnny Sack argued here for de facto slavery on here as long as someone is dumb enough to work for low wages.

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Indeed. Along with that famously Republican sentiment of, "who cares about money anyway?"

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  On 4/9/2025 at 4:07 PM, Bojack said:

Indeed. Along with that famously Republican sentiment of, "who cares about money anyway?"

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"We must trust Dotard! He knows what he's doing!"

(loses trillions)

"What I meant to say, is that who gives a shit about money, amirite?" 

He could start lighting cash on fire outside the White House and that would immediately be something you see these fucking morons doing everywhere. "Yeah fuck money!". Cults sure are fun to laugh at when they're not destroying our country.

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  On 4/9/2025 at 3:33 AM, Biff Tannen said:

This. The very fact these “wealthy” individuals have taken this long to privately, let alone publicly, ask this question shows they are so blinded by the chase for the dollar that their brains are broken in terms of actual human experience and reality. 

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Those people are just wired differently I guess. I wonder how people with so much money don’t have “make money” get de-prioritized in their lives.  Not go away completely, but slide down the list a little bit in favor of experiential endorphin hits, which might even include helping others. But it stays at the top. Nothing is more important, ever. 

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Posted
  On 4/9/2025 at 3:33 PM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Laughable that Trump's team is advocating that it's now Main Street's time to grow after Wall Street has grown over the last 4 decades. The GOP and MAGA have fought every measure to help blue collar and low wage worker. Any measure to protect (safety, security or compensation) them has always been shot down as unfair govt intervention with the invisible hand of capitalism.

Hell, Johnny Sack argued here for de facto slavery as long as someone is dumb enough to work for low wages.

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Not only that but their main priority today to counter the tariff issues is a tax cut that don’t affect Main Street. 

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  On 4/9/2025 at 4:12 PM, Red Five said:

"We must trust Dotard! He knows what he's doing!"

(loses trillions)

"What I meant to say, is that who gives a shit about money, amirite?" 

He could start lighting cash on fire outside the White House and that would immediately be something you see these fucking morons doing everywhere. "Yeah fuck money!". Cults sure are fun to laugh at when they're not destroying our country.

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We really need an angry laughing +1 reaction. 

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first president to nearly bankrupt agriculture twice ?

Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins says the Trump administration is considering a bailout plan for farmers hurt by the trade war sparked by Trump.

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Posted
  On 4/9/2025 at 4:37 PM, Dr. Teeth said:

The funny thing is Trump plays both roles and is likely to tweet sometime today something similar to “Any of you fucking pricks move, and I'll execute every motherfucking last one of ya!”

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CNBC: Dow drops 200 points after China, EU hit back with retaliatory tariffs and Trump threatens to "execute every motherfucking last one of ya."

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Posted
  On 4/9/2025 at 4:41 PM, tx 3 putt said:

first president to nearly bankrupt agriculture twice ?

Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins says the Trump administration is considering a bailout plan for farmers hurt by the trade war sparked by Trump.

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Screwing things up for no good reason so you can "fix" the mess you created and become the hero.

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  On 4/9/2025 at 4:50 PM, David Dennison said:

Screwing things up for no good reason so you can "fix" the mess you created and become the hero.

Dr Evil GIF

 

 

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Do it as early as possible so you can better sell the crash as Biden related and the rebound as Trump fixed it.  Although they could have done this in 3 years and still had the same level of buy-in about bidenonics. 

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  On 4/9/2025 at 4:45 PM, Pato del Muerto said:

Why farmers?

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Two reasons:

1. Strategically important to make our own food. So Trump's anti-ag policies that keep destroying our ag markets are a national security issue.

2. Most farming is now owned by giant ag corps and they are probably big Republican donors. Probably bad to keep fucking them.

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  On 4/9/2025 at 4:41 PM, tx 3 putt said:

first president to nearly bankrupt agriculture twice ?

Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins says the Trump administration is considering a bailout plan for farmers hurt by the trade war sparked by Trump.

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Just like last time.  All the tariffs did was redistribute wealth from urban people to farmers.   

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  On 4/9/2025 at 6:05 PM, Nivek said:

Just like last time.  All the tariffs did was redistribute wealth from urban people to farmers.   

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to big farma. the mom and pop farms are fuuuuuuucked 

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Yeah right. Everybody is going to reroute their supply chains in 90 days without even being sure these tariffs will even be implemented with 75 "countries" "negotiating"

 

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  On 4/9/2025 at 6:32 PM, tx 3 putt said:

 

to big farma. the mom and pop farms are fuuuuuuucked 

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Yes, it’s not like DOGE suddenly ended.  That hit to our economy is just a slower progression. Trump‘s ruining the stock market is the quick shiny object getting all of our attention.  

I don’t think that anybody watching this shit show is going to declare that everything is fixed just because of the 90 day pause.   Thinking that a 90 day tariff pause is going to suddenly change the fact that the entire world now hates our ass is a conclusion that only a cult member could process. 

The negative consequences from that loss of confidence and friendship will unfortunately be long lasting and not soon repairable. it will also wind up being very, very expensive.

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  On 4/9/2025 at 6:52 PM, Gatorubet said:

Thinking that a 90 day tariff pause is going to suddenly change the fact that the entire world now hates our ass is a conclusion that only a cult member could process. 

The negative consequences from that loss of confidence and friendship will unfortunately be long lasting and not soon repairable. it will also wind up being very, very expensive.

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These.  We just demonstrated that we are unreliable, pointlessly vindictive, indiscriminate psychopath.  So, who out there wants to HELP that counterparty and do MORE business with them?  Yeah, even fucking Kyrgyzstan is looking at us and doing this:

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Posted
  On 4/9/2025 at 6:43 PM, Firemans4Horn said:

Jesus wept. Have some self respect man. 
 

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Yes, I intentionally cut all the fingers on my left hand, but I also went to the cabinet and got some towels to wrap up the bloody stump. I threw some ice in a bucket with my severed fingers and drove myself to the hospital to have them reattached. The surgeons praised me for what a great job I did saving my fingers. It's weird though, some deranged moron sitting in the emergency room tried to say I was a dumbass for cutting off my fingers. He probably had a really high fever.   

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This is why I was noting that the market losses were not going to be a win for Democrats. He was always going to manipulate the markets for his benefit. And the markets are the worst indicator for the actual economy. Everything he has done today has made the situation worse and we could be in for some serious pain the longer the Chinese tariffs are in place. Pain that will be felt by the average American long before the markets slide again.  

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  On 4/9/2025 at 7:25 PM, wildcat09 said:

Nobody is going to be negotiating anything with us in the next 90 days. The rest of of the world will be negotiating with each other, with the goal of disentangling from us as much as possible. 

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I'd like to believe this, but I think the United States is a market none of them want to give up no matter how ridiculous its leader is.

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  On 4/9/2025 at 7:27 PM, David Dennison said:

I'd like to believe this, but I think the United States is a market none of them want to give up no matter how ridiculous its leader is.

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Give it up?  Of course not.  Dramatically lessen their dependence on it?  They'd be crazy not to.

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  On 4/9/2025 at 7:33 PM, Brisketexan said:

And you're at risk of losing a crapton of it the more business you do with a madman.  Strategic, long-term disentanglement is the play.

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I agree, but I'll believe it when I see it. I actually think a lot of these "renegotiations" will end up with what is basically a return to the status quo ante and the smartphone world will move on to the next distraction.

Or maybe we'll really see a paradigm shift away from the nation that currently has 11 carrier strike groups at its disposal.

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  On 4/9/2025 at 7:00 PM, Brisketexan said:

These.  We just demonstrated that we are unreliable, pointlessly vindictive, indiscriminate psychopath.  So, who out there wants to HELP that counterparty and do MORE business with them?  Yeah, even fucking Kyrgyzstan is looking at us and doing this:

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It really depends.  If we have an elder statesman like Biden, it can be fixed.  If we get anything else, it will be a tough slog.

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  On 4/9/2025 at 8:17 PM, Nivek said:

It really depends.  If we have an elder statesman like Biden, it can be fixed.  If we get anything else, it will be a tough slog.

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Problem: America's cancer isn't the leadership.  It's the electorate.

We elected the worst president in history.  Then said

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Then...fucking did it.  And we're still saying

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A country full of....American voters....is not a reliable or trustworthy ally, trading partner, or even a casual acquaintance you have drinks with.

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Posted
  On 4/9/2025 at 8:45 PM, MonkeyDoughnut said:

So what are the options to prevent the spectacular funding/deficit failure that we are quickly headed for currently? 

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Step 1) Various schemes to further enrich Trump and his cronies.

Step 2) Various schemes to further concentrate wealth in the billionaire class.

Step 3) Fuck you, pay me.

In short, that is the only plan, there is zero plan to prevent an exploding deficit.  Firing a few hundred million dollars worth of government employees who actually do things doesn't solve the deficit, and passing an additional multi-trillion dollar tax cut sure as shit doesn't solve it - it makes it massively worse.

Anyone who says or even thinks that Trump and the GQP give a single shit about the deficit or being fiscal conservatives should do the planet a favor and drink cyanide, because anyone that stupid should eliminated themself from the gene pool.

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  On 4/9/2025 at 8:52 PM, Brisketexan said:

Step 1) Various schemes to further enrich Trump and his cronies.

Step 2) Various schemes to further concentrate wealth in the billionaire class.

Step 3) Fuck you, pay me.

In short, that is the only plan, there is zero plan to prevent an exploding deficit.  Firing a few hundred million dollars worth of government employees who actually do things doesn't solve the deficit, and passing an additional multi-trillion dollar tax cut sure as shit doesn't solve it - it makes it massively worse.

Anyone who says or even thinks that Trump and the GQP give a single shit about the deficit or being fiscal conservatives should do the planet a favor and drink cyanide, because anyone that stupid should eliminated themself from the gene pool.

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Anyone else besides GQP have a plan? Are there any options or are we just hoping for AI super-intelligence to save us? 



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