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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Fucking.  THIS.

Economic effects of a global economy and factors outside of the Executive's control?  BLAME BIDEN.

Economic effects caused SOLELY by the erratic, mercurial, juvenile, and pointless acts of the Executive, and the Executive alone?  CRICKETS CHIRPING.

Comgrats to the MSM for keeping their jobs, i guess.

Posted
1 minute ago, Satchel said:

Serious question. Has Trump lifted the tariff on smart phones and electronics?

apparently, it never went in place and it's just the normal tariffs as it's excluded

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Serious question. Has Trump lifted the tariff on smart phones and electronics?

From everything I have heard there is just chaos at American ports and none of the tariffs are being collected.

But from what I understand certain companies are exempted to some extent. Or not. It is all chaos right now.

Posted
3 hours ago, MissingInAction said:

There's only one solution, and we all know what it is.

 

3 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Is it final?

 

2 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

Massacre the MAGATs Rwanda style?

 

 

Luigi Monkey Kart Race GIF

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

From everything I have heard there is just chaos at American ports and none of the tariffs are being collected.

But from what I understand certain companies are exempted to some extent. Or not. It is all chaos right now.

Be cool if it fucked over the port workers somehow after their bullshit a year ago. 

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Posted
20 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

From everything I have heard there is just chaos at American ports and none of the tariffs are being collected.

But from what I understand certain companies are exempted to some extent. Or not. It is all chaos right now.

 

Chaos? I am shocked. 

 

Well, not really. 

 

 

Posted
21 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

From everything I have heard there is just chaos at American ports and none of the tariffs are being collected.

But from what I understand certain companies are exempted to some extent. Or not. It is all chaos right now.

The adults are back in charge.

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We may not have a CDC - or a CDC emergency response team to prevent foreign outbreaks like Ebola and Covid and other deadly infectious diseases, but I do feel confident that my President will quickly place bigly severe tariffs on any future pandemics, and thereby limit the exposure to America. 

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Posted
10 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Meanwhile, this fuckhead is actively tanking the dollar.  It was $1.23 when he took office.  Now up to $1.32.  I was hoping for $1.28 or better before I buy my next traunch of GBPs.  At this rate, fuck it, I'm hosed.

The strongest currency in the world....and he's fucking strangling it and holding its head underwater.  Because....reasons.

 

Bitcoin is where it’s at

Posted
7 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

From everything I have heard there is just chaos at American ports and none of the tariffs are being collected.

But from what I understand certain companies are exempted to some extent. Or not. It is all chaos right now.

My favorite coffee beans from a company in Brenham have gone up $2-3 since the tariffs started being announced. So obviously some are being enforced. Or the bean importers are trying to get ahead of the game. 

Posted
6 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

My favorite coffee beans from a company in Brenham have gone up $2-3 since the tariffs started being announced. So obviously some are being enforced. Or the bean importers are trying to get ahead of the game. 

The latter Earl

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17 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

From everything I have heard there is just chaos at American ports and none of the tariffs are being collected.

But from what I understand certain companies are exempted to some extent. Or not. It is all chaos right now.

Just ordered some woodworking tools from Japan and they should be delivered today. No tariffs collected from me thus far. 

A few years back, I recall having to pay a tariff on some camera gear before they'd release the shipment for delivery so I'm hoping I escaped this time. 

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Posted
10 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

My favorite coffee beans from a company in Brenham have gone up $2-3 since the tariffs started being announced. So obviously some are being enforced. Or the bean importers are trying to get ahead of the game. 

Independence coffee by chance?  If so, agreed, and quick.  The kcups went up $2 over the last week.  

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12 minutes ago, dieucla98 said:

Just ordered some woodworking tools from Japan and they should be delivered today. No tariffs collected from me thus far. 

A few years back, I recall having to pay a tariff on some camera gear before they'd release the shipment for delivery so I'm hoping I escaped this time. 

Customa enforcement against individuals buying for ostensibly personal use is erratic as hell.  There has been an $800 exemption for things brought back from abroad for personal use. That is thought to extend to orders shipped from abroad as well but is unclear. And if it looks like it's for resale (multiple of the same item for example) then no exemption applies. 

Usually, if customs attempts to levy a duty or tariff, the shipper (FedEx or UPS etc.) will dun you for it before delivery and they have no interest in asserting the exemption on your behalf so it becomes a colossal pain in the ass to try to avoid it, even if you know the law and to assert it. 

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11 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

My favorite coffee beans from a company in Brenham have gone up $2-3 since the tariffs started being announced. So obviously some are being enforced. Or the bean importers are trying to get ahead of the game. 

Free profit is free profit.  But also if they can charge it one shipment early, then you the customer have paid for the increased cost in advance so they won’t have to feel it at all. 

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Apple and others got their exemptions. Small business owners didn’t, and will go bankrupt. Including this veteran featured on the daily yesterday.

 

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16 minutes ago, NoRagrets said:

Apple and others got their exemptions. Small business owners didn’t, and will go bankrupt. Including this veteran featured on the daily yesterday.

 

Her fault for not being a billionaire. Duh. 

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Customa enforcement against individuals buying for ostensibly personal use is erratic as hell.  There has been an $800 exemption for things brought back from abroad for personal use. That is thought to extend to orders shipped from abroad as well but is unclear. And if it looks like it's for resale (multiple of the same item for example) then no exemption applies. 

Usually, if customs attempts to levy a duty or tariff, the shipper (FedEx or UPS etc.) will dun you for it before delivery and they have no interest in asserting the exemption on your behalf so it becomes a colossal pain in the ass to try to avoid it, even if you know the law and to assert it. 

The rumor is enforcement at the bulk level is wildly inconsistent as well.  I've heard anecdotally that they aren't really enforcing collection at Long Beach, but it's all cocktail chatter. 

Edit: SOmebody else already posted it. 

From my own perspective, I notice coffee beans at Costco were across the board $2-4 more a package, regardless of brand.  I'm assuming that's just corporate preemptively collecting, pocketing profit if they aren't already remitting. 

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On 4/14/2025 at 9:45 AM, Pig Bellmont said:

The thing that chaps my ass is how so many negative stories about the economy and inflation were laid at Biden’s feet in the run up to the election but here we actually have the President as the sole and single cause for the economic downturn and there aren’t universal voices screaming that he’s crashing the god damned plane into the mountain. 

I have talked to two Trump-voter acquaintances here in rural Colorado about recent economic events.  The first is a blue collar guy without much education.  Nice guy, but not very bright.  Gets his news from conservative sources.  He is convinced to this day that Kamala was out to destroy the USA.  That if she had been elected, everyone's savings would not just be wiped out, but that she would have literally "destroyed" him and people like him.  His words.  He thinks everyone with money in the market that is worried are either under the mainstream-media's spell and reacting to false narratives, or that they are actively trying to hurt Trump's presidency by crashing his market.  He feels like Trump is a hero, knocking us out of the way of an oncoming freight train, and that any damage is the equivalent of a skinned knee that is an outcome far more favorable than the alternative.

The second is a retired school teacher and former Democrat who happened to build a nice little nest egg for himself over the years.  Decently educated, above average intelligence.  Gets his news from conservative sources, and they told him in the lead up to the election that a stock market reckoning was coming.  That if Kamala was elected, we would be in the Great Depression 2.0 by now, but that if Trump was elected, there would be about a 15% market hit before stabilizing.  He feels like what we are feeling from Trump's economic policies are the equivalent of a bruised tailbone after someone (Trump) mostly stops your fall that would otherwise break your neck.  He feels safe heavily invested in oil & gas equities because of the President's promise to "Drill, baby, drill."

These people are not feeling pain yet.  They aren't doubting things yet.  The first one?  He has no savings for economic policy to affect.  The second?  It's all part of the pre-election economic prophecy.

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1 hour ago, Goredho said:

I have talked to two Trump-voter acquaintances here in rural Colorado about recent economic events.  The first is a blue collar guy without much education.  Nice guy, but not very bright.  Gets his news from conservative sources.  He is convinced to this day that Kamala was out to destroy the USA.  That if she had been elected, everyone's savings would not just be wiped out, but that she would have literally "destroyed" him and people like him.  His words.  He thinks everyone with money in the market that is worried are either under the mainstream-media's spell and reacting to false narratives, or that they are actively trying to hurt Trump's presidency by crashing his market.  He feels like Trump is a hero, knocking us out of the way of an oncoming freight train, and that any damage is the equivalent of a skinned knee that is an outcome far more favorable than the alternative.

The second is a retired school teacher and former Democrat who happened to build a nice little nest egg for himself over the years.  Decently educated, above average intelligence.  Gets his news from conservative sources, and they told him in the lead up to the election that a stock market reckoning was coming.  That if Kamala was elected, we would be in the Great Depression 2.0 by now, but that if Trump was elected, there would be about a 15% market hit before stabilizing.  He feels like what we are feeling from Trump's economic policies are the equivalent of a bruised tailbone after someone (Trump) mostly stops your fall that would otherwise break your neck.  He feels safe heavily invested in oil & gas equities because of the President's promise to "Drill, baby, drill."

These people are not feeling pain yet.  They aren't doubting things yet.  The first one?  He has no savings for economic policy to affect.  The second?  It's all part of the pre-election economic prophecy.

Yup.  This is why we need a lot more pain unfortunately.    We are after all just animals, and like all animals we will only fundamentally change our behavior secondary to lack of food/water, pain, and sex.

 

 

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Redneck Mutha said:

I think coffee supply has recently been impacted by weather in some of the top producing countries, as well. The price for ours went up a couple months ago.

Yeah. Over the past few years, extended droughts in Central and South America (i.e., climate change) have been hurting coffee bean production. These same droughts have been partly responsible for driving some of the migration to the US and the slowdown in ship traffic through the Panama Canal.

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Chalk up another big win for America, per the folks at Goldman Sachs:

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Arrivals of non-citizens to the US by plane dropped almost 10% in March from a year earlier, according to data published Monday by the International Trade Administration. Goldman Sachs Group Inc. estimates in a worst-case scenario, the hit this year from reduced travel and boycotts could total 0.3% of gross domestic product, which would amount to almost $90 billion.

Destroy tourism income.

Destroy numerous small businesses in the US.

Destroy the value of the dollar.

Destroy the marketability of US debt.

Crash the stock market.

 

Quite the fucking winning streak there.

 

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4 hours ago, Goredho said:

I have talked to two Trump-voter acquaintances here in rural Colorado about recent economic events.  The first is a blue collar guy without much education.  Nice guy, but not very bright.  Gets his news from conservative sources.  He is convinced to this day that Kamala was out to destroy the USA.  That if she had been elected, everyone's savings would not just be wiped out, but that she would have literally "destroyed" him and people like him.  His words.  He thinks everyone with money in the market that is worried are either under the mainstream-media's spell and reacting to false narratives, or that they are actively trying to hurt Trump's presidency by crashing his market.  He feels like Trump is a hero, knocking us out of the way of an oncoming freight train, and that any damage is the equivalent of a skinned knee that is an outcome far more favorable than the alternative.

The second is a retired school teacher and former Democrat who happened to build a nice little nest egg for himself over the years.  Decently educated, above average intelligence.  Gets his news from conservative sources, and they told him in the lead up to the election that a stock market reckoning was coming.  That if Kamala was elected, we would be in the Great Depression 2.0 by now, but that if Trump was elected, there would be about a 15% market hit before stabilizing.  He feels like what we are feeling from Trump's economic policies are the equivalent of a bruised tailbone after someone (Trump) mostly stops your fall that would otherwise break your neck.  He feels safe heavily invested in oil & gas equities because of the President's promise to "Drill, baby, drill."

These people are not feeling pain yet.  They aren't doubting things yet.  The first one?  He has no savings for economic policy to affect.  The second?  It's all part of the pre-election economic prophecy.

Yeah. We are all going to have to suffer much more for this country to be saved. Horrible.

I thought we had somehow miraculously survived in 2021 but instead I guess we have to completely fall apart to get out of this. Hopefully we won't be like Germany and be under several feet of rubble.

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Posted
3 hours ago, Nivek said:

The after-the-fact economic prophecy.  

Yeah, there was no mention whatsoever of maintained or increased prices or any kind of austerity, even temporary, by Trump.

I think there may have been a few Trump apologists who recognized how disastrous this would all be that tried to temper it by saying it would be temporary.

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2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yeah, there was no mention whatsoever of maintained or increased prices or any kind of austerity, even temporary, by Trump.

I think there may have been a few Trump apologists who recognized how disastrous this would all be that tried to temper it by saying it would be temporary.

This is the key part about how much popular journalism has been replaced by short-attention-span media.   There is no follow-up about the campaign promises of lowering inflation, prices, and booming the supposed horrible Biden economy that saw a 25% increase in value over the course of a single year for the S&P500.  Instead they just react to the latest bullshit and let them reframe, rather than publish stories without their lies and distractions.    

Note how they didn't ever mention the outfits of Elon/KidRock/Bukkake.  I guess that type of media is largely dead.  

 

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On 4/11/2025 at 8:44 AM, Biff Tannen said:

The young frat kids in my neighborhood still have their Dipshit Moron sign in their yard.  Along with their F150 Raptor with the 1776 license plate.  It's just performative bro bullshit.  They have no idea how anything works.  Maybe they will get wiser as they get older, but I don't have a ton of hope.

Will they get an F on their Economics final?

will there be any jobs for them when they graduate?

who cares?

On 4/11/2025 at 7:53 PM, Schulz2.0 said:

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Now do Russia. 

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And, even if you have a rational belief that tariffs are the solution to all our ills, or even just a component of a better trade strategy, they'd need to be phased in over a period of time to give domestic companies time to adjust, no matter how badly you want to punish our counterparties.

So even if his tariff strategy wasn't stupid as fuck, the implementation is horribad.  And that's even before you get to tariff one day, no tariff the next.  Indeed, the on-off nature of them virtually proves that they should have been phased:  oops too many unintended but entirely predictable consequences.

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Took longer than I expected but he's waffling and backtracking on everything once his big money backers feel pain.  I'd be interested to see who's buying large on some of these dips.  

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Next time you hear someone mention "American Exceptionalism," don't forget that we voted for a failed businessman to lead us in a trade war. 

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1 hour ago, Thatguy said:

Most MAGATS I see are your first example. No money in the market to be worried about so to them Biden's economy was awful because the prices at Walmart were higher. They base their opinion about how the country is doing on these factors. Gas prices, Groceries, Brown people, and Gays. Everything has it's place and if any of those things get a little too uppidity they want them dealt with. These guys think Tyrone and Jose at the job are great but all the other Hispanics and Blacks out there are pieces of shit. They have a family member who fell on hard times and their government assistance is just what they needed to get them through the rough patch, but these other folks need to get off the government tit. They think cutting taxes on the rich frees up money to hire more people and raise wages. They've never heard of tax loopholes or stock buybacks and when you try to explain how they work their eyes glaze over. One of their sons is a little feminine and all they talk about is how he "has a ton of female friends".

Yup.  Its always the 4 ‘G’s:

Gas, Groceries,  Gays, and Gotdam Browns

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On 4/14/2025 at 10:15 PM, Biff Tannen said:

My favorite coffee beans from a company in Brenham have gone up $2-3 since the tariffs started being announced. So obviously some are being enforced. Or the bean importers are trying to get ahead of the game. 

I believe jumps like that right now are just sellers exploiting the expectation of price increases, same as it was with all the price hikes ~two years ago that exceeded inflation and led to many companies seeing record profits. 

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1 hour ago, Bookman said:

Next time you hear someone mention "American Exceptionalism," don't forget that we voted for a failed businessman to lead us in a trade war. 

Failed businessman, failed conman, and convicted felon who was certain to also be convicted of crimes against the United States if Garland wasn't an enormous pussy. And a world class asshole who was obviously only running to avoid prison. Who's made no secret of wanting to fuck his own daughter. 

I'll never get over his reelection. It's just so fucking incomprehensibly stupid. 

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17 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

Failed businessman, failed conman, and convicted felon who was certain to also be convicted of crimes against the United States if Garland wasn't an enormous pussy. And a world class asshole who was obviously only running to avoid prison. Who's made no secret of wanting to fuck his own daughter. 

I'll never get over his reelection. It's just so fucking incomprehensibly stupid. 

He's actually quite a successful con man.

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