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  On 2/27/2025 at 8:44 PM, futureman said:

nobody is debating that gene hackman isn’t great but your statement is wrong regarding that movie. 

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Best part about that movie is Hank Azaria, then Lane. But Robin and Hackman were GREAT, and Hackman’s character juxtaposed against all the other wildass shit put it over the top. 

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  On 2/27/2025 at 7:53 PM, 'stache said:

Last article I saw said he was found collapsed in a mudroom near his cane and she was found in the bathroom collapsed with a bottle of pills splattered and a space heater nearby. The dead dog was in a closet in the bathroom (didn't say if it was locked in there or just died there) and the other two dogs were in the house with access to outside. It also said that she was found bloated with mumification but no description of Hackman's condition. Gas company confirmed no leak and no indication of CO. Still no suspicion of foul play. This one is super weird to me and I can't help but be curious. 

It seems to me that a possibility would be that maybe they were fighting and she either pushed him or he collapsed and died and she swallowed a bottle of pills out of guilt and collapsed at some point from the drugs, the dead dog might have swallowed some of the pills that spilled, or maybe was locked in the bathroom with her and starved to death if she had really been dead that long. Or maybe the opposite? They were fighting, she decided to swallow some pills, and he collapsed in grief or guilt afterward in part because of his age and infirmities. I'm struggling with them outruling any possible foul play including the possibility of a domestic dispute? So fucking weird. 

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Sounds like the feds need to search for Yuri.

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how do you not even mention Unforgiven?? :P (ETA this was response to Rex's list, i took too long responding lol)

 

sigh. i've been preparing myself for a few years for the onslaught of losing some of the absolute best Hollywood has ever produced...Eastwood (95), Duvall (94, my heart will break!), Pacino (85), DeNiro (82), Nicholson (88), Freeman (89), Judi Dench (90), Dustin Hoffman (88), Ellen Burstyn (92)...

i mean these folks are really old. and they are arguably the best ever, not just in my lifetime. 

Hackman was on this list. he stole every scene he was in.

weird circumstances, hopefully nothing really nefarious happened. 

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  On 2/27/2025 at 8:06 PM, futureman said:

 

will you fucking cockjockeys post your goddamn sources goddamn. 

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They hadn't been seen in weeks and the bodies were "decomposed."

https://deadline.com/2025/02/gene-hackman-death-suspicious-police-1236303855/

“Affiant believes that the circumstances surrounding the death of the two deceased individuals to be suspicious enough in nature to require a thorough search and investigation because the reporting party found the front door of the residence unsecured and opened, deputies observed a healthy dog running loose on the property, another healthy dog near the deceased female, a deceased dog laying 10-15 feet from the deceased female in a closet of the bathroom, the heater being moved, the pill bottle being opened and pills scattered next to the female, the male decedent being located in a separate room of the residence, and no obvious signs of a gas leak,” the document adds.

Two men who worked on Hackman’s property reported the decomposed bodies in the home on Wednesday. The 30-year long married couple had not been seen for a few weeks, sources say.

 

  On 2/27/2025 at 9:00 PM, Rex Kramer said:

I stopped after Superman I and I’m right in that demo. Saw all original Star Wars and Indiana Jones and every Batman movie made. So I stand corrected. But I’m sure HE was great in an otherwise shit movie. My Top 5 GH films:

1. MS Burning

2. Hoosiers

3. Crimson Tide

4. The Firm

5. Royal Ts

In The Birdcage and Get Shorty, he was hilarious but they were more bit parts.  He was great in every other war role (Behind Enemy Lines, Uncommon Valor) and spook film (EOTS). The roles above really showed his range, and I suspect his acting was a genuine representation of who he actually was. I’m embarrassed to say I never saw The French Connection. Does it hold up?

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He was in so much great shit. I saw Mississippi Burning for the first time a few years ago. I'll have to think about my favorite Hackman movies. The French Connection absolutely holds up. One of the greatest car chase scenes in cinematic history.

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  On 2/27/2025 at 9:00 PM, Rex Kramer said:

I stopped after Superman I and I’m right in that demo. Saw all original Star Wars and Indiana Jones and every Batman movie made. So I stand corrected. But I’m sure HE was great in an otherwise shit movie. My Top 5 GH films:

1. MS Burning

2. Hoosiers

3. Crimson Tide

4. The Firm

5. Royal Ts

In The Birdcage and Get Shorty, he was hilarious but they were more bit parts.  He was great in every other war role (Behind Enemy Lines, Uncommon Valor) and spook film (EOTS). The roles above really showed his range, and I suspect his acting was a genuine representation of who he actually was. I’m embarrassed to say I never saw The French Connection. Does it hold up?

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He got an Oscar for Unforgiven and it doesn't make your top 5.  That's a bold list.

And, yes, French Connection holds up -- in large part due to a great job by Hackman as well as Roy Scheider, and an incredible car chase. 

 

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  On 2/27/2025 at 9:24 PM, mchookem said:

how do you not even mention Unforgiven?? :P (ETA this was response to Rex's list, i took too long responding lol)

 

sigh. i've been preparing myself for a few years for the onslaught of losing some of the absolute best Hollywood has ever produced...Eastwood (95), Duvall (94, my heart will break!), Pacino (85), DeNiro (82), Nicholson (88), Freeman (89), Judi Dench (90), Dustin Hoffman (88), Ellen Burstyn (92)...

i mean these folks are really old. and they are arguably the best ever, not just in my lifetime. 

Hackman was on this list. he stole every scene he was in.

weird circumstances, hopefully nothing really nefarious happened. 

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  On 2/27/2025 at 9:41 PM, Carl Spackler said:

He got an Oscar for Unforgiven and it doesn't make your top 5.  That's a bold list.

And, yes, French Connection holds up -- in large part due to a great job by Hackman as well as Roy Scheider, and an incredible car chase. 

 

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I’m just not the biggest Unforgiven fan.  Honestly The Firm and Crimson Tide are down on my list because Hackman’s a bad guy or the antagonist. My favorite non-comedic roles of his where he clearly has an edge but has a good heart. MB and Hoosiers are my favs as a result. 

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  On 2/27/2025 at 9:54 PM, Rex Kramer said:

 

I’m just not the biggest Unforgiven fan.  Honestly The Firm and Crimson Tide are down on my list because Hackman’s a bad guy or the antagonist. My favorite non-comedic roles of his where he clearly has an edge but has a good heart. MB and Hoosiers are my favs as a result. 

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I wasn't either when it won Best Picture. I enjoyed it then but absolutely love it now. It's a great film and Hackman is such a great bad guy.

I think The Royal Tenenbaums is my favorite movie of his. Probably pick Unforgiven, Hoosiers, No Way Out, The French Connection, Crimson Tide, Mississippi Burning, No Way Out The Birdcage and Superman to pick out the next four of my top five. I know it was a small role but he's in one of my favorite all-time movies (Young Frankenstein).

 

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  On 2/27/2025 at 9:41 PM, Carl Spackler said:

He got an Oscar for Unforgiven and it doesn't make your top 5.  That's a bold list.

And, yes, French Connection holds up -- in large part due to a great job by Hackman as well as Roy Scheider, and an incredible car chase. 

 

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I was reading about that chase. Legendary Jim Hickman drove it.He also was the driver of black Charger in Bullitt. The article mentioned that the director did not have new York's permission to film a chase but did it anyway. Wow

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A movie that is often forgotten one that I loved as a kid, The Quick and the Dead and it had a great cast.  He fell and hit his head and died, she felt bad for not being there or grief stricken and took pills, spilling some on the ground, dog is one of those eats anything on the floor types.  I’m no detective but I am staying at a Holiday Inn tonight.  

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  On 2/27/2025 at 9:54 PM, Rex Kramer said:

 

I’m just not the biggest Unforgiven fan.  Honestly The Firm and Crimson Tide are down on my list because Hackman’s a bad guy or the antagonist. My favorite non-comedic roles of his where he clearly has an edge but has a good heart. MB and Hoosiers are my favs as a result. 

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He's the Bad Guy in Unforgiven.  Sure, William Munny is the real bad guy but you're rooting for him.

He originally turned the role down because he was a pacifist and thought the movie would glorify violence.  Eastwood explained to him that one of the themes was a critique of violence in American culture.  

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  On 2/27/2025 at 9:27 PM, C-Man said:

They hadn't been seen in weeks and the bodies were "decomposed."

https://deadline.com/2025/02/gene-hackman-death-suspicious-police-1236303855/

“Affiant believes that the circumstances surrounding the death of the two deceased individuals to be suspicious enough in nature to require a thorough search and investigation because the reporting party found the front door of the residence unsecured and opened, deputies observed a healthy dog running loose on the property, another healthy dog near the deceased female, a deceased dog laying 10-15 feet from the deceased female in a closet of the bathroom, the heater being moved, the pill bottle being opened and pills scattered next to the female, the male decedent being located in a separate room of the residence, and no obvious signs of a gas leak,” the document adds.

Two men who worked on Hackman’s property reported the decomposed bodies in the home on Wednesday. The 30-year long married couple had not been seen for a few weeks, sources say.

 

He was in so much great shit. I saw Mississippi Burning for the first time a few years ago. I'll have to think about my favorite Hackman movies. The French Connection absolutely holds up. One of the greatest car chase scenes in cinematic history.

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At some point a starving dog will eat its dead owner’s corpse. Food for thought. 

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If I were to guess based on that information, Hackman died of natural causes and his wife then committed suicide. The dog was locked in a crate so starved to death.

Gruesome.

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Anyone not familiar with The Conversation needs to correct that post haste. It's Hackman at his best, and Coppola in a lean, gritty form that he pretty much abandoned.

Harry Caul is his best performance ever.

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  On 2/28/2025 at 12:14 AM, Valmy77 said:

If I were to guess based on that information, Hackman died of natural causes and his wife then committed suicide. The dog was locked in a crate so starved to death.

Gruesome.

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You sir, are a regular Surl-lock-Holmes!!

 

Get it !!!

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  On 2/28/2025 at 12:14 AM, Valmy77 said:

If I were to guess based on that information, Hackman died of natural causes and his wife then committed suicide. The dog was locked in a crate so starved to death.

Gruesome.

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Why not murder-suicide? Or what if the wife committed suicide, Hackman discovered her, then had an episode and, being old and frail, succumbed to a heart attack and/or a fall? I think your guess is the least likely of the three scenarios.

’Oh my god, my 95-year-old husband, 30 years my senior, died suddenly. Who could have seen this coming? I’m super rich but I just can’t go on without him. He’s old enough to be my father but I thought we would be together forever!’

Not seeing it. 

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  On 2/28/2025 at 3:37 AM, WhatTheBuck said:

Why not murder-suicide? Or what if the wife committed suicide, Hackman discovered her, then had an episode and, being old and frail, succumbed to a heart attack and/or a fall? I think your guess is the least likely of the three scenarios.

’Oh my god, my 95-year-old husband, 30 years my senior, died suddenly. Who could have seen this coming? I’m super rich but I just can’t go on without him. He’s old enough to be my father but I thought we would be together forever!’

Not seeing it. 

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It is just my best guess. There are other possibilities. 

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  On 2/28/2025 at 3:41 AM, Valmy77 said:

It is just my best guess. There are other possibilities. 

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I’d go with “first guess”. I think you can guess better.  :)

I don’t want to make a thing about it but I think your scenario requires her to see the natural passing of her 95-year-old husband as a surprise, like she didn’t see it coming and wasn’t prepared. I’d guess that’s the least likely scenario. 

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  On 2/28/2025 at 3:57 AM, WhatTheBuck said:

I’d go with “first guess”. I think you can guess better.  :)

I don’t want to make a thing about it but I think your scenario requires her to see the natural passing of her 95-year-old husband as a surprise, like she didn’t see it coming and wasn’t prepared. I’d guess that’s the least likely scenario. 

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Don't be a dick

 

Who the fuck knows. We may never really know. 

 

My uncle, who was a recovering addict, was found dead in his bed by the cops after a wellness check. Dogs were alive but had drank the toilet bowls dry. I still to this day don't know what the COD was because his shit ass son (my cousin) would never tell anyone. It could've been suicide - could've been OD - could've been liver or kidney failure. The small town ME didn't bother to pin it down. I'm pretty sure my cousin knew but he kept it to himself.

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