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1 minute ago, Spankytoes said:

To what point and purpose?

I just meant that celebrating Independence Day for Texas is not the same thing as celebrating MAGA culture in Texas in 2025. 

The Texas Revolution and the whole origin story of defeating Mexico is awesome. Being the only state that was it's own country before being annexed a state of the U.S. is awesome. Texas history is awesome.

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6 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

I just meant that celebrating Independence Day for Texas is not the same thing as celebrating MAGA culture in Texas in 2025. 

The Texas Revolution and the whole origin story of defeating Mexico is awesome. Being the only state that was it's own country before being annexed a state of the U.S. is awesome. Texas history is awesome.

Besides a shirt or a magnet, what’s so special about Texas being its own country 150 years ago? You never hear Massachusetts residents crowing about being an original colony. Never understood the false bravado for something so insignificant to where we are now. 

3 minutes ago, Ghost of NMAS said:

We might all be better off if the Mexicans had won

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OP should be negged into oblivion.  We are on to you.   You start out as an innocent enough celebration of independence -  which will soon evolve into an argument about whether the Alamo has a basement - which will quickly turn into a discussion about gerrymandering.

Proceed with caution.

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11 minutes ago, futureman said:

santa anna was a bitch. 

Correct.

Also, it would be awesome if we had some leadership as sound and well-meaning as his these days.  We should yearn for the relative competence and basic decency of "bitch."

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46 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

Being the only state that was it's own country before being annexed a state of the U.S. is awesome. Texas history is awesome.

Hawai'i says hi (before we fucked them over).

Texas history is awesome, though.

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46 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Sure.  It was.  Before we took a giant shit on it and decided to go full retrograde.

If my fellow Texans are back on board with fighting for individual liberty against oppressive tyranny, I'd love for them to join me.  But Texas is full Team Santa Anna these days, so fuck 'em.

Exactly. Embody the true Texas spirit. One that is rebellious if the time calls for it and can win a revolution. Hence my saying all the self-defeatist sad boi stuff is lame. "Why should I change my pride of Texas, they are the ones who suck" mindset.

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16 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Correct.

Also, it would be awesome if we had some leadership as sound and well-meaning as his these days.  We should yearn for the relative competence and basic decency of "bitch."

Arguably, we could use a little Degüello right about now. 

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44 minutes ago, Spankytoes said:

Besides a shirt or a magnet, what’s so special about Texas being its own country 150 years ago? You never hear Massachusetts residents crowing about being an original colony. Never understood the false bravado for something so insignificant to where we are now. 

I personally find it cool and awesome. YMMV.

The fact that, in 1845, we weren't the result of some federal admins filing the appropriate paperwork to get M&A'ed into the United States, but we had fought and won belligerent independence from a foreign country, to plant our flag as our own country is about as 56-inch-barrel-chested man as it gets. Every Texian was walking around crotch-first and all the plains states held their manhood cheap when in the mixed company of a conquerer. 

Maybe it's my broken brain, but I find that spirit and verve and success to be worth celebrating and being proud to have in my lineage. 

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Texians were multinational and interracial. So, if you reject those qualities, fuck off calling yourself a Texan.

Not saying they were harmonious, just that they worked together against a common enemy.

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12 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Now?  Now Texas is just another red state.  Passing all the red state laws, sometimes trying to lead, mostly desperately following.  And there is little to nothing recognizably Texan in our State's leadership (Danny Goeb, I'm taking to you).  I haven't felt pride in being a Texan in quite some time.

So you go on and celebrate Texas Independence Day, sonny, and stop wasting my time. Because to tell you the truth,

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This, all of this. 

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Texas is a state of mind. Verdad. The idea of Texas is dead. The state now is no different than Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Louisiana or any of the diabetes ridden SEC states. 

I used to love this state. Now I'm counting years on one hand until I can retire and move the f out. Who the fuck wants to live in Oklahoma, I mean Texas?

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Just now, crash_davis said:

The state now is no different than Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Louisiana or any of the diabetes ridden SEC states. 

You left out Mississippi.  Mississippi is our North Star, guiding all we do.  We want to be just as fucking poor, just as fucking ignorant.....but with tex-mex and oil.  We're getting there, and right soon.

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Alright, well...I respect the opinions and feeling of my fellow Texans. And I can empathize and agree with a lot of the ire and regret being shared here today, but I draw the line at not being proud to be a Texan. That's just me.

As for me and my house, we stood a bit taller in our boots yesteday with a pride to be a part of and descend from those brave, awesome men and women who came before us.

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You have to remember too that the many of people living in Texas today aren't even Texans.  The population has doubled since most of us were growing up, with cities like Dallas, Austin, and Houston being filled to the gills with carpetbaggers.  The spirit of Texas is dead 

Celebrating Texas Independence Day is the equivalent of Celebrating Cinco de Mayo.  Most people don't even know what they're celebrating.

It reminds me of the people who still say Keep Austin Weird.  Austin hasn't been weird in 30 years.

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4 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

Alright, well...I respect the opinions and feeling of my fellow Texans. And I can empathize and agree with a lot of the ire and regret being shared here today, but I draw the line at not being proud to be a Texan. That's just me.

As for me and my house, we stood a bit taller in our boots yesteday with a pride to be a part of and descend from those brave, awesome men and women who came before us.

In my 20s, I had just spent a month traveling through Europe by myself. Seeing the admiration from people when I told them I was from Texas, upon coming home, I got a tattoo of the state of Texas. Now I feel like a Tesla owner. 

Nothing screams "idiot" to the rest of the US than an idiot with a Texas tattoo.

I was in Greece 2 years ago. On 3 different occasions, when I responded "Texas" to the question where I was from, the first response was "ahh, guns." Some idiots on here will masturbate to that but that's not the flex psychos think it is. The rest of the world is not in love with guns and the daily death tolls that we have as a byproduct of "freedom".

 

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1 hour ago, Vegas64 said:

I just meant that celebrating Independence Day for Texas is not the same thing as celebrating MAGA culture in Texas in 2025. 

The Texas Revolution and the whole origin story of defeating Mexico is awesome. Being the only state that was it's own country before being annexed a state of the U.S. is awesome. Texas history is awesome.

In the last 10 years, I've known two people that mentioned Texas Independence Day and both were non-native Texans.

I've lived here my entire life and I don't remember Texas Independence Day ever being a thing.

What I am familiar with is Dawn at the Alamo, which I have attended multiple times. The next one is this Thursday at 6 AM, Alamo Plaza.

https://www.thealamo.org/remember/commemoration/dawn-at-the-alamo

 

 

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4 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

In my 20s, I had just spent a month traveling through Europe by myself. Seeing the admiration from people when I told them I was from Texas, upon coming home, I got a tattoo of the state of Texas. Now I feel like a Tesla owner. 

Nothing screams "idiot" to the rest of the US than an idiot with a Texas tattoo.

I was in Greece 2 years ago. On 3 different occasions, when I responded "Texas" to the question where I was from, the first response was "ahh, guns." Some idiots on here will masturbate to that but that's not the flex psychos think it is. The rest of the world is not in love with guns and the daily death tolls that we have as a byproduct of "freedom".

 

I know this is a serious thread, and your contribution is a sad one, but I could only think of this (because of the guns):

https://youtube.com/shorts/-KcxMMkm68I?si=SzSSbSDlgOz-JukE

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1 hour ago, Vegas64 said:

I personally find it cool and awesome. YMMV.

The fact that, in 1845, we weren't the result of some federal admins filing the appropriate paperwork to get M&A'ed into the United States, but we had fought and won belligerent independence from a foreign country, to plant our flag as our own country is about as 56-inch-barrel-chested man as it gets. Every Texian was walking around crotch-first and all the plains states held their manhood cheap when in the mixed company of a conquerer. 

Maybe it's my broken brain, but I find that spirit and verve and success to be worth celebrating and being proud to have in my lineage. 

I'm not arguing with anything else you've written, but there is a 99% likelihood that a dude with a  56" chest is a gigantic lard ass whose body dismorphia has convinced him he's Schwarzenegger.  I'm not sure that's the best measure of swagger.

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a ribeye and 2-3 pours at Saint Arnold are a great way to celebrate 2MAR36.  Did that a few times when we still lived in Houston area.

I moved here when I was 6.  Owned being a Texan bigtime in the military, because once people find out, they gotta bring it up.  It happens to lesser extent in corporate culture.

I like being a Texan.  I like steak and beer. I appreciate our history, even if it is not perfect.  I wish certain things were pointed in a different direction, as of late. 

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2 hours ago, Vegas64 said:

I just meant that celebrating Independence Day for Texas is not the same thing as celebrating MAGA culture in Texas in 2025. 

The Texas Revolution and the whole origin story of defeating Mexico is awesome. Being the only state that was it's own country before being annexed a state of the U.S. is awesome. Texas history is awesome.

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25 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

As for me and my house, we stood a bit taller in our boots yesteday with a pride to be a part of and descend from those brave, awesome men and women who came before us. 

The proud slaveowner part still retains a certain cachet, I will admit.

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2 minutes ago, South Austin said:

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That and I have a bit of an accent.  Drill Instructors had fun with that shit.   Then they want to see your belt buckles and ask if you rode a horse to school...

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3 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

The proud slaveowner part still retains a certain cachet, I will admit.

I’d submit that most everyone on the planet has both slaves and slaveholders in their ancestry.

This thread went predictably. A negative aggregate rep OP starting probably a disingenuous thread, easily drawing people that are inexplicably defined by elected leaders offsides. 

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8 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

A negative aggregate rep OP starting probably a disingenuous thread, easily drawing people that are inexplicably defined by elected leaders offsides. 

I know, I know. But he's proud of his state.  You know, that's damn rare thing these days?

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1 hour ago, Vegas64 said:

Exactly. Embody the true Texas spirit. One that is rebellious if the time calls for it and can win a revolution. Hence my saying all the self-defeatist sad boi stuff is lame. "Why should I change my pride of Texas, they are the ones who suck" mindset.

You've already shown your ignorance of US history, so I guess you are embodying the true Texas spirit.

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https://vermontmaturity.com/vermont-history/the-vermont-republic-the-story-of-when-vermont-was-an-independent-country/

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Today, the United States of America stands fifty strong. The creation of this union was no simple matter—not every colony embraced the opportunity to join the United States. Texas is a famous example, having existed as the Republic of Texas between 1836 and 1846 before joining the Union. Lesser known is the Hawaiian Kingdom, which existed for over 100 years before being annexed by the United States in 1898. However, the honor of being the first secessionist state in North America goes not to Hawaii or Texas, but Vermont.

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Texas history being awesome is because it’s been mythologized and the mythology taught in Texas high schools as fact. Although alternate facts are all the rage anymore so maybe that’s just a case of being ahead of the curve. 
 

there were prisoners taken at the Alamo.  It was a rebellion of gasp immigrants who made an agreement with a foreign country then decided to take the land. 
 

it was not going well as a country. That is why it asked into the United States. Hold out another 60 years and things may be different on that front. 
 

and one could argue that the California rebellion was on the same path until other events consumed it  

 

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57 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Texas history being awesome is because it’s been mythologized and the mythology taught in Texas high schools as fact. Although alternate facts are all the rage anymore so maybe that’s just a case of being ahead of the curve. 
 

there were prisoners taken at the Alamo.  It was a rebellion of gasp immigrants who made an agreement with a foreign country then decided to take the land. 
 

it was not going well as a country. That is why it asked into the United States. Hold out another 60 years and things may be different on that front. 
 

and one could argue that the California rebellion was on the same path until other events consumed it  

 

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