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6 hours ago, F250 said:

A 4 star ranking might have had something to do with that which most don't have.

Everyone I knew that played for an Ivy was a shit athlete but top tier academics.

In talking with most people, that seems to be the stereotype.  But, I tell those that ask that even at Ivys, first priority is “Can you play?”  Then, “can we get you in?”  Then, “are you willing to come here vs more traditional schools?”  Ivys have much more talent than people think.  Sports gets the vast majority of the athletes into Ivys that would not have been able to get in on academics alone.

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I teach at a small NAIA college. Some realities that I had never considered before coming here:

1. There are certainly some good athletes and high performers, but a less gifted or relatively unskilled kid could get a scholarship as well. They might never play though. A kid who will be relatively headache-free and help the coach meet their recruiting goals will be appreciated. An ok high school player could certainly find a spot on our rosters.

2. Scholarships are discounts off the sticker price. The school knows how much on average they need to get per student and scholarship accordingly. There often isn’t some magical pool of cash they are drawing from — instead they are just balancing out average costs. Tuition at lots of private schools is so high in order to allow the schools to offer bigger scholarships.

3. Even at our level, the student athletes are busy. It is a lot for them to keep up with.

4. At least at my institution, the coaches are good about supporting academic goals. If a student-athlete isn’t getting it done in my class, their coach is usually the first person I reach out to.

5. At least at my institution, while they celebrate winning, there isn't the same pressure like the higher levels. Coaches surely have been let go, but I don’t think winning or losing has been a big part of that equation.

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Yeah, a friend's son plays football for Colorado School of Mines.  He doesn't play all that much, but he's about to graduate with an engineering degree from one of the finest schools in the country, so there's that.

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7 hours ago, Nigel Tufnel said:

In talking with most people, that seems to be the stereotype.  But, I tell those that ask that even at Ivys, first priority is “Can you play?”  Then, “can we get you in?”  Then, “are you willing to come here vs more traditional schools?”  Ivys have much more talent than people think.  Sports gets the vast majority of the athletes into Ivys that would not have been able to get in on academics alone.

I was using the 4 star recruit mentioned above as a reference. Of course the Ivy League is filled with capable athletes , its a D1 conference. But in comparison to the rest of the D1 schools they are pulling from the bottom prospects.

 

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