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9 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

So if you are going to take the 3 and try to win it, why not draw up a double screen to make sure you at least have a shot. That play was just atrocious. 

The didn't even get a shot. I'm stil trying to understand that. How the fuck does that happen?

That last position by Houston sure seemed to be more about "hero ball" than anything else.  As in ... "I'm gonna take the 3 and win the game, and be on Sportscenter and be famous..." Run your fucking offense, take what is there... throw it inside and if it is there... kick it back out.  Otherwise go hard to the board, pound it, put up a two and perhaps you get fouled.  If not, win it in overtime... as a team...

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1 minute ago, Lidig8r said:

That last position by Houston sure seemed to be more about "hero ball" than anything else.  As in ... "I'm gonna take the 3 and win the game, and be on Sportscenter and be famous..." Run your fucking offense, take what is there... throw it inside and if it is there... kick it back out.  Otherwise go hard to the board, pound it, put up a two and perhaps you get fouled.  If not, win it in overtime... as a team...

This is a terrible take. 

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1 minute ago, Helobious said:

Refs called 4 fouls in the first half and 26 in the 2nd half

Feel better now? Or do you feel like Houston got robbed in the second half?

Just curious if your ref bleating was team based or from an overriding drive for justice....

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3 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

I'm old, I'm good with houston not winning shit...

I really fucking hated Lorenzo Charles, but Kelvin Sampson can eat a dick.

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Nor should we root for Cougar High, or any rig12 team..... ever. 
 
I didn't have a dog in this one. Just watched to watch. UH choked it the fuck up in the last few minutes. 

Come on man. Just rooting for them as a Texas team. I will say that I’ll be the last to Chant SEC, SEC, SEC, and etc, as if not us then F them.

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7 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

 

I think we’re the only program ever to have won three in both football and basketball

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Post WW2 no one else has 2 of each unless I'm missing something. 

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5 hours ago, ATXbronco said:

I miss Fuddruckers

They let you ooze as much melted jalapeno cheese on that burger as you want

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looks like Texas has the most out of every state. Florida second most. They were expensive you pay for the experience. we had a Fuddputters growing up next to our fuddruckers back in the 90s. play some mini golf then go eat a burger after the round. now the location is some greek restaurant and a parking lot 

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2 hours ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

looks like Texas has the most out of every state. Florida second most. They were expensive you pay for the experience. we had a Fuddputters growing up next to our fuddruckers back in the 90s. play some mini golf then go eat a burger after the round. now the location is some greek restaurant and a parking lot 

There were like 3 or 4 in Orlando and they all just suddenly closed shop a few years back.

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I think we’re the only program ever to have won three in both football and basketball
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That’s exactly why I wanted us to make Billy Donovan say “No!” Bulls suck and he’d thrive in today’s NIL landscape- IMO.

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I should have known Ted Cruz was there.  Poor Houston, you never had a chance with the sports jinx in attendance.  Every team in this state should ban him from attending.

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3 fouls in :09 was insane.

You're not supposed to notice that shit.

That was the turning point in the game. Giving up a 3 right then would have been better for Houston.
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I mean, there was a flurry of fouls on Florida at the start of the 2nd half, and everybody here said they were all legit.  And I agreed, with one exception.

Are the same people saying that the flurry of fouls on U of H later was bullshit?

I thought the refs were too involved in the 2nd half, but I didn't feel like they favored either team.

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52 minutes ago, Big Frog II said:

I should have known Ted Cruz was there.  Poor Houston, you never had a chance with the sports jinx in attendance.  Every team in this state should ban him from attending.

he was there for the big comeback in the semi #Cruzeffect!

what really happened was Houston Houston'd.

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Admittedly, I don’t watch much college basketball. One thing I heard discussed during the week was that Sampson had 3-4 big, rugged C/PF types who just fouled constantly with the idea that they won’t call all of them.

I didn’t see much of the first half as I was cleaning kitchen. Sounds like the the refs didn’t call anything in the first half but called it much tougher in the second. Most of what I saw called seemed like fouls. I dunno.

For me, it comes down to Houston not being pleasing to watch. It’s just ugly basketball. Beard’s teams can be similar. It was fine when he was at Texas and we were winning. If I’m impartial, it’s not enjoyable. That said, the game last night was entertaining.

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1 hour ago, Big Frog II said:

I should have known Ted Cruz was there.  Poor Houston, you never had a chance with the sports jinx in attendance.  Every team in this state should ban him from attending.

Let’s put some numbers around this:

 

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11 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

I really fucking hated Lorenzo Charles, but Kelvin Sampson can eat a dick.

I'm old enough to remember when Kelvin Sampson was "scum"

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7 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

I'm old enough to remember when Kelvin Sampson was "scum"

He was at Wazzu when I was at UDub, so he'll always be scum to me.

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4 hours ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Damn. If this was Texas this place would be exploding about the refs 

As was correctly said, the first half was a hockey game and the second half was ballet.   “Letting them play” in the first half was an advantage for the aggressive, physical coogs.  That Houston defense not regulated by whistles made it pretty damn tough on us.  All credit to Houston for their style of play and their taking advantage of the refs allowing a hackathon.

When they flipped the switch at halftime and decided to call everything - I think Florida was a little better at adjusting quicker to the new normal.  it would’ve been a better game if the calls had been consistent both halves. They weren’t.

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They never are. And that’s not a surprise, college refs are awful. Houston is elite when the refs let them play bully ball / football on hardwood. 

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5 minutes ago, Js1 said:

They never are. And that’s not a surprise, college refs are awful. Houston is elite when the refs let them play bully ball / football on hardwood. 

yep.  anyone who watches them knows if they get the wrong ref crew they are in trouble.  the funny thing is they got the right ref crew in 1H and wrong in 2H.

then Florida started getting called for stuff in 2H that was happening in the first half with no calls.  it was 5-0 fouls and one at least was questionable.  Florida coach started bitching(which is a smart move).  Immediately the refs started to even it up and "looking" for similar fouls for Houston.  Houston wasn't doing anything different they just started getting called.  then it was back and forth for a bit then florida got the advantage(flopped on a couple) on fouls(and Clayton started creating some offense). 

It is always better to get the advantage late, rather than early, because then you are in the bonus.

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Reffing aside, Houston’s half court offense was awful down the stretch, and Florida started making buckets so they were in the half court a bunch. They didn’t even get up a shot in their last three possessions of the game. 

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12 hours ago, Welshy said:

Feel better now? Or do you feel like Houston got robbed in the second half?

Just curious if your ref bleating was team based or from an overriding drive for justice....

The real problem is the refs inserted themselves into the game so hard. After letting physical play happen the whole first half, they called some bogus fouls on Florida then some make up calls on Houston later on. Instead of balancing shit out they should just call the game the same way the whole game, and call it the same both ways. 

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Doug Sirmons was in the game as one of the refs, and he’s the biggest “look at me” ref in D1 men’s right now. #1 by far. 

Yes, I’ve been reffing in games where the foul count is lopsided (for whatever reason) and to get the game back to reality, you don’t go looking for fouls but rather you look for what is illegal vs. legal. In my opinion, the 1st half was called pretty well because they were just letting them play; however, when you decide to just let them play, it will inevitably bring out frustrations by one or more players because they fully believe they are getting fouled and you’re not calling it. The longer this goes, the more the game escalates and you as the ref have to get ahold of the game because that’s your job. The best way to do that? Call more fouls, which then goes against what you allowed the 1st half. 

My issue with the Florida folks on this board (and to an extent the Texas people) is there’s never a “hey, the other team was called for a foul and yeah we get to shoot FTs, but that really wasn’t a foul. We got away with that” from those fans. Florida fans were bitching here when it was a quick 5-0 foul count in the 2nd half but when Houston got called for nearly 11 straight fouls, it was crickets. 

The above is also one of the reasons I retired early from officiating. One of my pet peeves with co-officials was the inability to admit you were wrong. Instead, too many refs tried to justify why they were correct. Absolutely hated that. 

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