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Posted
31 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

Sounds like complete speculation and even fabrication if the initial report is true that the twins (bully or not) had never seen or interacted with Karmelo (from another h.s.) before they got into an initial verbal and/or physical altercation. Referring to the competing narrative that they systematically bullied him and broke his phone weeks prior, etc.

I’m guessing that initial report wasn’t true 

But again I have no idea. My assumption is we don’t know the whole story and much of the information we’re getting from the competing narratives is incomplete/inaccurate/incotrect 

Posted
3 hours ago, BJ Johnson said:

It was a district meet so I think well organized. 
 

Another issue with people under wrong tent is there could be some personals belongings of athletes under there. Again, unless you really knew someone on that team you’re asking for trouble. Being asked to leave at the least. 
 

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Where did you see that? This would perhaps explain why you’re hanging out with a knife in your backpack, under the wrong tent. 
 

disagree. If you’re 17 and do something this fucked up, you’re never going to be much use to society. Broken brain, horrific judgment. Likely to do something horrific again. 

Glad you've added adolescent psychologist to your repertoire.

There are certain instances where I think it's quite appropriate to try juveniles as adults.

So far, this isn't one of them.

As I think imma pointed out, unless you know where you're striking with a knife, you'd be extraordinarily (un)lucky to cause a fatal injury with one shot.  And this apparently was quickly fatal.

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5 hours ago, MotownHorn said:

The competing narrative is the deceased and his twin had been bullying the suspect, including breaking his phone weeks beforehand and calling him racial slurs

So if that narrative is accurate it sounds like a young kid being an idiot and taking matters into his own hands instead of getting adults to intervene. In this narrative the suspect intended to make a stand to get the bullies off his back and it all went wrong 

But I wouldn’t buy that narrative at face value any more than I’d buy the victims family’s initial narrative at face value 

Seems like relatively normal teenage kid shit that took a very unfortunate turn. And since its 2025 a bunch of idiots (on both sides) run to present a caricature of the situation that pushes their preferred political perspective

Speculative bullshit post. Neg

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Posted
2 hours ago, Stros121 said:

Speculative bullshit post. Neg

You're on a message board, and nobody here was on the scene.  Everything posted is speculative. dumbass

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Posted
2 hours ago, DigDug said:

You're on a message board, and nobody here was on the scene.  Everything posted is speculative. dumbass

But some things are clearly more speculative and ridiculous than other things. And motowns was wildly almost irresponsibly so.

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Posted
32 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

But some things are clearly more speculative and ridiculous than other things. And motowns was wildly almost irresponsibly so.

Well, it may be total bullshit, but seems to align with what the suspect's father said.

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19 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, it may be total bullshit, but seems to align with what the suspect's father said.

I have no dog in the fight, motown also added this:

But I wouldn’t buy that narrative at face value any more than I’d buy the victims family’s initial narrative at face value

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1 minute ago, BurntEyes said:

I while I have no dog in the fight, motown also added this:

But I wouldn’t buy that narrative at face value any more than I’d buy the victims family’s initial narrative at face value

True enough.  The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

 

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1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

True enough.  The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

 

The adage, "There are two side to every story and the truth is usually found in between." is very frequently true. I often opt for as many facts and perspectives to be released prior to drawing any sort of conclusions. But I'm dumb like that as everyone here knows.

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Posted
1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, it may be total bullshit, but seems to align with what the suspect's father said.

This aligns? 

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The competing narrative is the deceased and his twin had been bullying the suspect, including breaking his phone weeks beforehand and calling him racial slurs

This sounds like someone took the initial reports and eyewitness statements (a phone was taken, broken after being told to leave) combined with some probably true personality characteristics (kid could generally be a bully) and then throws Wild speculation gasoline on the fire (racial slurs and bullying the kid systematically for weeks)

The only things being reported were they didn’t know each other and it was their first run-in (which makes sense from a smell test considering they go to cross-town high schools) and zero eye witness or reporting has ever mentioned racial slurs or racism.

The wild social media speculation is unmoored from the rational speculation based on a cocktail of actual reporting and first/hand second hand accounts.

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41 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

This aligns? 

This sounds like someone took the initial reports and eyewitness statements (a phone was taken, broken after being told to leave) combined with some probably true personality characteristics (kid could generally be a bully) and then throws Wild speculation gasoline on the fire (racial slurs and bullying the kid systematically for weeks)

The only things being reported were they didn’t know each other and it was their first run-in (which makes sense from a smell test considering they go to cross-town high schools) and zero eye witness or reporting has ever mentioned racial slurs or racism.

The wild social media speculation is unmoored from the rational speculation based on a cocktail of actual reporting and first/hand second hand accounts.

What motown reports seems to align with what Anthony's father said.

It doesn't align with the other narrative, which seems to be mostly eyewitness statements, who wouldn't have much reason to know back story.

It may be complete bullshit, but information is very sketchy from unbiased sources.

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Here's what we know, according to reports and all the Frisco chat groups talking about this endlessly.  
* taken from their chat, which by all accounts seems up to date.  

- A witness says Metcalf was sitting under his school's tent when Anthony approached

- Metcalf told Anthony to leave

- Anthony grabbed his bag and warned, "Touch me and see what happens," according to police

- No one knew Anthony had a weapon

- One witness says Metcalf touched Anthony, another says he grabbed him

- Anthony immediately pulled a knife from his backpack and stabbed Metcalf in the chest

- He then fled the scene

- Metcalf clutched his chest, told teammates to get help, and died in his brother's arms

- When police caught Anthony, he said, "I'm not alleged, I did it"

- In the cruiser, Anthony asked if Metcalf was okay and whether what he did counted as self-defense

 

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Vegas64 said:

This aligns? 

This sounds like someone took the initial reports and eyewitness statements (a phone was taken, broken after being told to leave) combined with some probably true personality characteristics (kid could generally be a bully) and then throws Wild speculation gasoline on the fire (racial slurs and bullying the kid systematically for weeks)

The only things being reported were they didn’t know each other and it was their first run-in (which makes sense from a smell test considering they go to cross-town high schools) and zero eye witness or reporting has ever mentioned racial slurs or racism.

The wild social media speculation is unmoored from the rational speculation based on a cocktail of actual reporting and first/hand second hand accounts.

There are by all accounts 30+ eyewitnesses that are being vetted by the police and a half dozen coaches.  Most are aligning with what I posted above.  

Posted
18 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Here's what we know, according to reports and all the Frisco chat groups talking about this endlessly.  
* taken from their chat, which by all accounts seems up to date.  

- A witness says Metcalf was sitting under his school's tent when Anthony approached

- Metcalf told Anthony to leave

- Anthony grabbed his bag and warned, "Touch me and see what happens," according to police

- No one knew Anthony had a weapon

- One witness says Metcalf touched Anthony, another says he grabbed him

- Anthony immediately pulled a knife from his backpack and stabbed Metcalf in the chest

- He then fled the scene

- Metcalf clutched his chest, told teammates to get help, and died in his brother's arms

- When police caught Anthony, he said, "I'm not alleged, I did it"

- In the cruiser, Anthony asked if Metcalf was okay and whether what he did counted as self-defense

 

 

forgot to add that he bawled uncontrollably like a fucking pussy while he inquired about whether or not  he would be able to weasel out of a murder charge. 

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Posted
12 hours ago, BJ Johnson said:

It was a district meet so I think well organized. 

Tell me you’ve never been around high school athletic events in Texas, without telling me you’ve never been around high school athletic events in Texas.

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Posted
29 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Tell me you’ve never been around high school athletic events in Texas, without telling me you’ve never been around high school athletic events in Texas.

But have you ever been around an event in Russia?

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Posted
17 hours ago, Stros121 said:

Speculative bullshit post. Neg

 

12 hours ago, Vegas64 said:

But some things are clearly more speculative and ridiculous than other things. And motowns was wildly almost irresponsibly so.

I clearly said what I was sharing was speculative and biased and I didn't trust it as the full truth. Meanwhile Stros posts pure bullshit as the absolute truth and you two eat it up because you are morons.

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Posted
51 minutes ago, MotownHorn said:

 

I clearly said what I was sharing was speculative and biased and I didn't trust it as the full truth. Meanwhile Stros posts pure bullshit as the absolute truth and you two eat it up because you are morons.

What are you on about? The Stros guy posted two things that I saw 1) calling out your post rightfully so as garbage speculation and everything that’s wrong with social media and 2) a link to a news media report (wfaa Dallas).

I guess I don’t understand the motivation to post obviously badly biased and disinformation at this point of what we know.

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Posted
1 hour ago, MotownHorn said:

 

I clearly said what I was sharing was speculative and biased and I didn't trust it as the full truth. Meanwhile Stros posts pure bullshit as the absolute truth and you two eat it up because you are morons.

Generally speaking we should all be suspicious of “social media news”:

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Misinformation reported online

Frisco police and the FBI are investigating an incident where an individual made a Facebook post impersonating Frisco police Chief David Shilson. The post appeared to be provoking readers along racial lines.

Frisco police said it will pursue criminal charges against whoever made the post, as impersonation of a public official could be either a Class A misdemeanor or third-degree felony.

The post came as online engagement for the stabbing incident was high. Posts on social media about the incident have garnered millions of views.

Another fake post on Friday claimed to be from the Collin County Medical Examiner’s office showing the results of Austin’s autopsy, which officials said has not yet been released.

 

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2025/04/02/what-we-know-about-the-frisco-track-meet-stabbing/

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Posted (edited)
10 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Tell me you’ve never been around high school athletic events in Texas, without telling me you’ve never been around high school athletic events in Texas.

I’ve been to plenty of track meets.   At that stadium.  They set up the tents around the field, often at the open area under the large scoreboard or on the opposite side.   That’s where kids place their bags, kids change their shoes, put on spikes, etc.  It’s also where the coaches have kids meet prior to events to walk through the races.   During events most kids are on the field cheering each other on so their stuff isn’t being watched.   Some kids stay around the tents to rest, others mingle, others follow friends in each event.  Before each event kids are lined up by lane, etc and yes, it’s pretty damn organized considering there are hundreds of kids and often dozens of schools.  Especially the hurdle events as they have to get them placed and st the right height depending on the race.   Then you have the race Marshalls around the track all coordinated between each event.  
 

Again, unless you know the kid and are friends, you NEVER have other schools kids in your tent.   It’s their turf.  Their school.  Where coaches talk strategy and plan the events.   Where the kids talk about how they are going to approach each event.  

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Posted

This appears to be an intelligent post by someone who actually knows what they are talking about.  I will be eagerly waiting for the next seven pages of people arguing about whether it makes any sense or not when they have no clue what actually took place.

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Another update.  There had been concerns from many of the coaches about theft at these meets.   You heard this brought up by the brother explaining why they had someone camped out at the tent to watch everyone’s bags.  This explains why the brother was so adamant about the kid moving on and away from their tent and why it escalated quickly.  
 

The whole “touch me and see what happens” like everyone heard and was in the police report.  
 

There had been an earlier rain delay but it wasn’t raining at that time.   After the incident there was a deluge and they had to move the tent to cover the body and responders.  

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On 4/5/2025 at 8:12 AM, Brisketexan said:


This is a great post. So far, appears to be some young brain decision making gone way wrong. Guys fuck with me, I don’t take shit from them, so I bring a knife with me, and end up using it. Nothing but bad decisions all around. But “unbroken string of bad decisions, by people incapable of seeing being themselves” is our national ethos these days, so where’s the surprise?

Don’t disagree but sitting in their schools tent is looking for a fight

Posted
3 hours ago, FORTY NINE TO ZERO said:

sadly after glancing at social media today this event seems to have been taken over by the culture war.

what a fucked up situation.   both versions of events are equally tragic  

What do you mean both versions? The affidavit says what happened, confirmed by multiple witnesses.

Posted
12 minutes ago, BJ Johnson said:

What do you mean both versions? The affidavit says what happened, confirmed by multiple witnesses.

You are aware, I hope, that people are not tried and convicted on the basis of an arrest affidavit.  There could easily be, and usually is, a lot more to the story.

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On 4/5/2025 at 10:12 AM, Brisketexan said:


This is a great post. So far, appears to be some young brain decision making gone way wrong. Guys fuck with me, I don’t take shit from them, so I bring a knife with me, and end up using it. Nothing but bad decisions all around. But “unbroken string of bad decisions, by people incapable of seeing being themselves” is our national ethos these days, so where’s the surprise?

It took a few days from you to emerge from your bridge and beat us down with this being a symptom of the political landscape. You’re losing your edge. 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

You are aware, I hope, that people are not tried and convicted on the basis of an arrest affidavit.  There could easily be, and usually is, a lot more to the story.

Of course. I just don’t see a charitable way that this can be presented for the defendant, even if other side true. 

he was bullied? Still murder

called him the N word? Still murder

he feared for his life? Please. He wasn’t beaten up at all in his mug shot. 

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Posted
16 minutes ago, BJ Johnson said:

Of course. I just don’t see a charitable way that this can be presented for the defendant, even if other side true. 

he was bullied? Still murder

called him the N word? Still murder

he feared for his life? Please. He wasn’t beaten up at all in his mug shot. 

I’m going to withhold full commentary until all the conspiracy theories go away. But the above is absolutely true. 

People here should be ignoring Twice’s posts and reading Yaga’s. 

Posted
49 minutes ago, BJ Johnson said:

What do you mean both versions? The affidavit says what happened, confirmed by multiple witnesses.

 

35 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

You are aware, I hope, that people are not tried and convicted on the basis of an arrest affidavit.  There could easily be, and usually is, a lot more to the story.

 

Posted
45 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

You are aware, I hope, that people are not tried and convicted on the basis of an arrest affidavit.  There could easily be, and usually is, a lot more to the story.

Cops lie all the time. Not sure this kid will get a fair trial in Frisco.

What a sad commentary on our failed country that obvious race-baiting agitprop is the only slop the majority of its citizens choose to engage with.

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Posted
18 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

I’m going to withhold full commentary until all the conspiracy theories go away. But the above is absolutely true. 

People here should be ignoring Twice’s posts and reading Yaga’s. 

I'm actually not asserting anything as fact.  There's a bunch of shit flying around, some speculation, some educated speculation, and an arrest affidavit, that I'm going to assume is factual (not always a good assumption).

No one knows shit about fuck.

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7 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I'm actually not asserting anything as fact.  There's a bunch of shit flying around, some speculation, some educated speculation, and an arrest affidavit, that I'm going to assume is factual (not always a good assumption).

No one knows shit about fuck.

I strongly suspect Yaga is hearing the same things I’m hearing. He knows quite a bit more than you.  YOU don’t know shit about fuck. Yet here you are with generic, obvious warnings about how we shouldn’t assume anything, and it’s a shame this kid will be tried as an adult. I might suggest shutting the fuck up. 

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46 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

It took a few days from you to emerge from your bridge and beat us down with this being a symptom of the political landscape. You’re losing your edge. 

 

25 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

I’m going to withhold full commentary until all the conspiracy theories go away. But the above is absolutely true. 

People here should be ignoring Twice’s posts and reading Yaga’s. 

 

5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I'm actually not asserting anything as fact.  There's a bunch of shit flying around, some speculation, some educated speculation, and an arrest affidavit, that I'm going to assume is factual (not always a good assumption).

No one knows shit about fuck.

Damn, this is a fucked-up situation.

I fully agree that we should empathize with troubled kids and acknowledge complexities like bullying, fear, or youthful impulsiveness. But we should never confuse empathy with moral equivalence. Murder isn’t just another “bad decision”; it’s fundamentally different, profoundly worse, and incomparable to anything else involved here.

Our current political climate doesn’t have anything to do with poor decision-making like this—history is filled with stories like this one.

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Posted (edited)
18 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

I strongly suspect Yaga is hearing the same things I’m hearing. He knows quite a bit more than you.  YOU don’t know shit about fuck. Yet here you are with generic, obvious warnings about how we shouldn’t assume anything, and it’s a shame this kid will be tried as an adult. I might suggest shutting the fuck up. 

Oh ok, well he's hearing stuff.  Great.  I concede that the part about FISD tent practices at track meets provides some useful context, but the rest is hearsay and speculation.

And you're hearing stuff.  Great.

Neither of you know the facts.  Neither do I and I'm not pretending that I do.

And a lot of people are assuming things.  Like you.  And those who think an arrest affidavit tells the entire story.

So, no, you shut the fuck up.

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17 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Oh ok, well he's hearing stuff.  Great.  I concede that the part about FISD tent practices at track meets provides some useful context, but the rest is hearsay and speculation.

And you're hearing stuff.  Great.

Neither of you know the facts.  Neither do I and I'm not pretending that I do.

And a lot of people are assuming things.  Like you.  And those who think an arrest affidavit tells the entire story.

So, no, you shut the fuck up.

I don’t know the backstory, if there is any at all. I know there were literally dozens of witnesses, and you coming on here speculating on a backstory ignores the fact that the kid committed murder, and expressing dismay he’ll be tried as an adult should be saved for another thread and certainly another time. 

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Posted
29 minutes ago, Telegraph_it said:

Murder isn’t just another “bad decision”; it’s fundamentally different, profoundly worse, and incomparable to anything else involved here.

All we know is this was a homicide, not necessarily that it was murder.

Can anyone actually prove Anthony intended to create a substantial risk of death? Who could say if there's actual precedent that every stabbing comes with a substantial risk of death? What if Anthony was aiming for the victim's hand but the victim shifted his position and ended up getting stabbed somewhere Anthony didn't intend to stab him?

This feels awfully similar to when people try to explain what happened in a bar fight. Someone was an aggressor, someone else declined a few chances to de-escalate, pushing comes to shoving, punches get thrown (and if we're dealing with biker gangs weapons get drawn), and eventually one person is more hurt than the other and if they're really unlucky they're paralyzed or killed.

Maybe there will be surveillance video that will shed light on what really happened.

Posted
1 hour ago, chainsaw said:

Cops lie all the time. Not sure this kid will get a fair trial in Frisco.

What a sad commentary on our failed country that obvious race-baiting agitprop is the only slop the majority of its citizens choose to engage with.

Couple generations ago this kid wouldn't get a trial in Frisco

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