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Posted
13 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Probably important to acknowledge that, other than diplomatic protests or actions, the US has no say over what Bukele does with his citizens, like Abrego Garcia. Or very little.

And, accordingly, it would be problematic/impossible for a US court to order or otherwise force a foreign leader to return a foreign citizen from his home country.

Trumpco is trying to pretend that that is the end of the inquiry.

Of course, Abrego Garcia is there because a) we sent him there b) not merely as a returnee to ES to wander around and for Bukele to try or jail or whatever but c) specifically that he be imprisoned there, for which we are paying, and apparently retain control over the "final disposition."

It should also be noted that the lawyer did not make the admission on behalf of the government, an ICE Agent did, by sworn declaration.

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69777799/11/3/abrego-garcia-v-noem/

6.  On March 15, 2025, two planes carrying aliens being removed under the Alien Enemies Act (“AEA”) and one carrying aliens with Title 8 removal orders departed the United States for El Salvador. Abrego-Garcia, a native and citizen of El Salvador, was on the third flight and thus had his removal order to El Salvador executed. This removal was an error

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15. Through administrative error, Abrego-Garcia was removed from the United States to El Salvador. This was an oversight, and the removal was carried out in good faith based on the existence of a final order of removal and Abrego-Garcia’s purported membership in MS-13

 

 

So they fired the DOJ lawyer for no reason at all? 

Posted
8 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

So they fired the DOJ lawyer for no reason at all? 

Well, I guess you can say he never should have filed that declaration or let that guy say that.

But, that starts to involve a lack of candor with the court.

As brisket often says, when you have an evidentiary shit sandwich, like the fact that Abrego Garcia's deportation was in error, you take a big bite right at the outset, you don't try to hide and ignore it.

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Posted
3 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well all they really ruled is that habeas corpus was the proper remedy and the case in front of Boasberg had dismissed the habeas claims in favor of the APA claims.

When you add in that they expressly found Abrego Garcia entitled to due process in a properly vemued habeas case, the path is now open for more far reaching orders on deportation. 

Not that they'll do that but they mightif Xinis and the plaintiffs build a good record of contempt for due process and SCOTUS orders. 

Twice, man, they did not fucking rule that Trump can deport anyone he wants under the Alien Enemies Act for the time being and that everyone has to individually challenge their detention, if they are thinking about saying he can't deport ANYONE under it later. Turn the fucking lawyer brain off for a minute and use your normal brain. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Probably important to acknowledge that, other than diplomatic protests or actions, the US has no say over what Bukele does with his citizens, like Abrego Garcia. Or very little.

Puh-lease. Come on, man. You can’t possibly believe that. If Trump wanted him back, he would’ve been back yesterday.

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Posted
34 minutes ago, safe sex said:

He can't be brought back because he's already dead. He died the first day he arrived in El Salvador. C'mon y'all.

I'm shocked they haven't used the false flag card yet   

He never existed and the photos are of a crisis actor.

Posted
3 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Probably important to acknowledge that, other than diplomatic protests or actions, the US has no say over what Bukele does with his citizens, like Abrego Garcia. Or very little.

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