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26 minutes ago, immamac said:

WTF. Post more than the link. 

Apparently there was a helicopter 

It crashed somewhere in New York

6 people died

If you click on that click bait link from God only knows what source, you too can find out a lot more.

ABC New Link To Helicopter crash on Hudson

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All six people on board were killed when a helicopter plunged into the Hudson River by Lower Manhattan in New York City on Thursday afternoon, Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop confirmed to ABC News.

The helicopter was carrying a pilot, two adults and three children, according to law enforcement sources. The family members were tourists from Spain, sources said.

The helicopter was in the air around Manhattan for about 15 minutes before the crash. Video showed the chopper plunging into the water without a tail rotor or a main rotor blade.

Jersey City Medical Center, where the passengers were transported after the crash, tried as hard as they could, Mayor Fulop said.

Dani Horbiak told ABC News she watched the helicopter "fall out of the sky" from her apartment window.

"I heard five or six loud noises that sounded almost like gunshots in the sky and saw pieces fall off, then watched it fall into the river," she said.

"I was walking by and the helicopter went down at 45-degree angle," Eric Campoverde told ABC News. "Big splash -- it was very scary."

"It sounded like a sonic boom," a witness told New York ABC station WABC. He said he saw the "helicopter splitting in two with the rotor flying off."

Another witness told WABC, "One propeller broke into pieces."

The chopper -- identified by the Federal Aviation Administration as a Bell 206 helicopter -- was on its sixth flight of the day. It was found upside-down in the 50-degree water when rescuers arrived at the scene, which was closer to the New Jersey side of the Hudson River, according to sources.

The Jersey City Police Department is taking the lead on the investigation since the helicopter crashed on the Jersey City side of the river, Mayor Steven Fulop, told WABC on Thursday.

Fulop said the city has had concerns about the air traffic over the Hudson before and is hoping this brings more attention to their safety concerns.

 

 

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Poor family. There have been a fair number of tourist helicopter crashes here in Hawaii over the years. One on my town's main street a few years ago that killed everyone.

I don't understand why someone would take their family on one of those. There's no potential soft landing like a plane can have when something goes wrong.

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7 minutes ago, Orale said:

Poor family. There have been a fair number of tourist helicopter crashes here in Hawaii over the years. One on my town's main street a few years ago that killed everyone.

I don't understand why someone would take their family on one of those. There's no potential soft landing like a plane can have when something goes wrong.

Helicopters can absolutely land after engine failure using autorotation. Have a friend whose son is a helicopter pilot and he went up with him during training when they practiced autorotation. He said it was super unsettling. That said, if the helicopter loses a rotor and tail, well you’re gonna have a bad day.

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1 hour ago, The Ace of Aces said:

Thank Jesus it fell in the water. This could have been very very easily a major catastrophe. 

Would suck to just be strolling along the river, enjoying an authentic slice of Sbarro and get taken out by a rogue helicopter rotor.

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With two blade rotors there's a phenomenon called mast bumping where the blades start flapping enough to cut off the tail boom.  Caused by hard pushover maneuvers.   Here's some speculation   Heard of this on Robinsons but never Bells

https://www.timesnownews.com/world/us/us-news/did-mast-bumping-cause-bell-206-helicopter-crash-in-hudson-river-what-we-know-article-151394140/amp

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16 hours ago, ClubWhatever said:

With two blade rotors there's a phenomenon called mast bumping where the blades start flapping enough to cut off the tail boom.  Caused by hard pushover maneuvers.   Here's some speculation   Heard of this on Robinsons but never Bells

https://www.timesnownews.com/world/us/us-news/did-mast-bumping-cause-bell-206-helicopter-crash-in-hudson-river-what-we-know-article-151394140/amp

Mast bumping was my first thought upon seeing this today and while it could still be this, the company has a history of poor maintenance and other near misses in the past.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14597691/New-York-Helicopter-Charters-history-fatal-crash.html

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27 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

NSIAP. Video catches the actual break up. The thing just comes apart. Did it hit WonderWoman's invisible jet?

 

This does not look like mast bumping.  It looks like a big yaw before tail boom comes off, then main rotor.  Big yaw = tail rotor let go, or no more torque to tail rotor (gearbox failure).  The main rotor comes off after it's already falling = aerodynamic forces.

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Man, the pre flight pictures coming out are crushing. Almost makes you envious of the Kobe crash, where they probably didn't even get the time to say, "oh shit!" 5 seconds of being pinned to your seat, absolutely nothing you can do or say to ease the fear. Ahhhh. Nightmare fuel.

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19 hours ago, Orale said:

There's no potential soft landing like a plane can have when something goes wrong.

Not even close to true.  The vast majority of helicopter crashes are not fatal.  Hell, my dad was shot down 3 times piloting Hueys in Vietnam and not 1 person lost their life.  

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Autorotation is only good if all components stay intact and your pilot isn’t a civilian trained nerd who loses their shit when the engine fails. You can’t control anything when the tail and main rotor separate from the aircraft, which is what seems to be the main cause of most of the crashes recently

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On 4/10/2025 at 7:16 PM, Orale said:

Poor family. There have been a fair number of tourist helicopter crashes here in Hawaii over the years. One on my town's main street a few years ago that killed everyone.

I don't understand why someone would take their family on one of those. There's no potential soft landing like a plane can have when something goes wrong.

I can't speak to the family aspect but Ive taken a couple of tours in a helicopter. Vegas at night and coast south of OC for example.

For a little context I used to fly planes, but the what you can see in a helicopter is just extremely different. Much lower safe altitudes and flying speeds. Its a very, very different experience of interesting places than from a single engine plane or sky scraper. 

As far as danger, dunno where you live, but compared to traffic in and around Austin or Nashville... if I could fly a helicopter from my house to downtown for meetings/social experience, I would. Guess I'll just have to wait for the Gonodals. 

Wish this country had fucking rails like Europe. 

Get off my lawn! 

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