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  On 4/10/2025 at 9:17 PM, immamac said:

WTF. Post more than the link. 

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Apparently there was a helicopter 

It crashed somewhere in New York

6 people died

If you click on that click bait link from God only knows what source, you too can find out a lot more.

ABC New Link To Helicopter crash on Hudson

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Poor family. There have been a fair number of tourist helicopter crashes here in Hawaii over the years. One on my town's main street a few years ago that killed everyone.

I don't understand why someone would take their family on one of those. There's no potential soft landing like a plane can have when something goes wrong.

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  On 4/11/2025 at 12:16 AM, Orale said:

Poor family. There have been a fair number of tourist helicopter crashes here in Hawaii over the years. One on my town's main street a few years ago that killed everyone.

I don't understand why someone would take their family on one of those. There's no potential soft landing like a plane can have when something goes wrong.

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Helicopters can absolutely land after engine failure using autorotation. Have a friend whose son is a helicopter pilot and he went up with him during training when they practiced autorotation. He said it was super unsettling. That said, if the helicopter loses a rotor and tail, well you’re gonna have a bad day.

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  On 4/10/2025 at 10:35 PM, The Ace of Aces said:

Thank Jesus it fell in the water. This could have been very very easily a major catastrophe. 

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Would suck to just be strolling along the river, enjoying an authentic slice of Sbarro and get taken out by a rogue helicopter rotor.

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  On 4/11/2025 at 1:34 AM, ClubWhatever said:

With two blade rotors there's a phenomenon called mast bumping where the blades start flapping enough to cut off the tail boom.  Caused by hard pushover maneuvers.   Here's some speculation   Heard of this on Robinsons but never Bells

https://www.timesnownews.com/world/us/us-news/did-mast-bumping-cause-bell-206-helicopter-crash-in-hudson-river-what-we-know-article-151394140/amp

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Mast bumping was my first thought upon seeing this today and while it could still be this, the company has a history of poor maintenance and other near misses in the past.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14597691/New-York-Helicopter-Charters-history-fatal-crash.html

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  On 4/11/2025 at 7:21 PM, crash_davis said:

NSIAP. Video catches the actual break up. The thing just comes apart. Did it hit WonderWoman's invisible jet?

 

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This does not look like mast bumping.  It looks like a big yaw before tail boom comes off, then main rotor.  Big yaw = tail rotor let go, or no more torque to tail rotor (gearbox failure).  The main rotor comes off after it's already falling = aerodynamic forces.

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Man, the pre flight pictures coming out are crushing. Almost makes you envious of the Kobe crash, where they probably didn't even get the time to say, "oh shit!" 5 seconds of being pinned to your seat, absolutely nothing you can do or say to ease the fear. Ahhhh. Nightmare fuel.

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  On 4/11/2025 at 12:16 AM, Orale said:

There's no potential soft landing like a plane can have when something goes wrong.

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Not even close to true.  The vast majority of helicopter crashes are not fatal.  Hell, my dad was shot down 3 times piloting Hueys in Vietnam and not 1 person lost their life.  

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Autorotation is only good if all components stay intact and your pilot isn’t a civilian trained nerd who loses their shit when the engine fails. You can’t control anything when the tail and main rotor separate from the aircraft, which is what seems to be the main cause of most of the crashes recently

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  On 4/11/2025 at 12:16 AM, Orale said:

Poor family. There have been a fair number of tourist helicopter crashes here in Hawaii over the years. One on my town's main street a few years ago that killed everyone.

I don't understand why someone would take their family on one of those. There's no potential soft landing like a plane can have when something goes wrong.

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I can't speak to the family aspect but Ive taken a couple of tours in a helicopter. Vegas at night and coast south of OC for example.

For a little context I used to fly planes, but the what you can see in a helicopter is just extremely different. Much lower safe altitudes and flying speeds. Its a very, very different experience of interesting places than from a single engine plane or sky scraper. 

As far as danger, dunno where you live, but compared to traffic in and around Austin or Nashville... if I could fly a helicopter from my house to downtown for meetings/social experience, I would. Guess I'll just have to wait for the Gonodals. 

Wish this country had fucking rails like Europe. 

Get off my lawn! 

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