Tom "the turtle" Herman [Lame Duck or greatest 5d chess player ever?]

[jinx 2635]

3 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

It's dumb to avoid watching something that is a shit product and provides me with zero joy rather just frustration and angst?

That is a fucking terrible take and you should feel really bad about posting it.

No doubt.  It happens to me every year.  I don’t actively avoid games, I just don’t care enough to clear the time on my Saturday.  

[FOXHOUND 1021]

Four years in and we're still in the same spot as we were four years ago. Time to go Herman, pack your shit

[elguapo 4586]

This team has at least 2 more losses in it, probably 3. Crazy thing is I think a good coach could take this same roster and easily win the big 12.

[Bill Lumbergh 7171]

Anyone who's not on board with wanting him gone, I'd love to hear the logic.

If you're going to mention money, just stop. We have it. It's up to us if we want to win badly enough to choose to use it

[naija 2854]

6 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

this is part of the fucking problem. our athletic department is fucking run by fanbois. we can lay this hire at the feet of the houston bmds. ok great this one sucks so let's look to the dallas bmds. 

no, how about we have a functional fucking athletic department. 

we have fans that like to dream about how to spend other people's money

[Thiefery 4995]

Just now, BurntEyes said:

lol.. see man you do care..  Just like me..  Sorry if I stirred you up

[taybo20 2825]

Just now, Bill Lumbergh said:

Anyone who's not on board with wanting him gone, I'd love to hear the logic.

If you're going to mention money, just stop. We have it. It's up to us if we want to win badly enough to choose to use it

I do want to hear anyone defend this asshat. Fuck him

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2652]

I just hate the idea giving him millions for no work. 
 

I’ll get over it fast though. Isn’t my money 
 

 

[UhhhIdk 125]

1 minute ago, Bill Lumbergh said:

Anyone who's not on board with wanting him gone, I'd love to hear the logic.

If you're going to mention money, just stop. We have it. It's up to us if we want to win badly enough to choose to use it

Urban isn’t coming here, why even kid ourselves. Who is an actual replacement that’s a proven upgrade? 

[Wishbone 4762]

1 minute ago, Thiefery said:

if you can't take it, that's on you.. I'll still be watching because we only have a set of games each fall.. and maybe less here in 2020.  And if you will only watch when a Urban or Dabo comes walking through that door.. well, I guess you aren't coming back.

Yeah, I snicker at the Urban/Dabo emotional fantasy talk. Not gonna happen. Will eat double crow helpings and like it if wrong. I’m sure I’m safe though.

[Nicole44 22060]

2 minutes ago, GabrielsHorn said:

I don't blame them. The way this team has played the past three weeks has been as bad as any Strong coached team.

Hire slowly (something we didn’t do with Strong or Herman) but you fire quickly. Break up with them. Rip the bandaid off. It won’t happen but it should. Herman has earned himself a quick firing. He may sound humble in his pressers now but he brought this all on himself. I don’t hate him. I just want him gone. We are gonna lose a ton of recruits. Not having the team acknowledge the fans in any way after a win or loss is pathetic. They don’t have to sing The Eyes (omg the horror) but fucking acknowledge the fans with a quick Hook’em or something. Geez. 

[VABuckeye 2472]

22 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Bob Stoops’s walk-on hobbit son just beat us and our DBs who were probably collectively the most highly rated DB recruits on any team in the country.

That’s the problem. They aren’t. Not even close. 

[RomaVicta 29908]

1 minute ago, UhhhIdk said:

Urban isn’t coming here, why even kid ourselves. Who is an actual replacement that’s a proven upgrade? 

It's always a crapshoot when you go coach hunting. I hate it. Things have to be systemically bad for me to urge a coach hunt.

I'm urging a coach hunt. I hate it, but that's what I'm doing.

[4th&Five 41557]

5 minutes ago, naija said:

Most of the fans wanted Herman with a thirst. Happy to say I had my doubts from before he even got here. The extension was a mistake. Can't compound it by making a bad decision. Meyer or Dabo or bust is the sort of thinking/arrogance that gets Texas into trouble in all facets of its organization. And with the way that department leaks like a sieve, a naked chase of those two (I mean, thinking Dabo will come here is just icing on the cake) is just more printable embarrassing information.

Anyone watching UH his second year and wanting him was in denial. That team was just like this team. More talented than everyone they played and just as undisciplined and stupid. 

[Burt Macklin 19026]

9 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

Maybe, just maybe Tom, it’s because every phase of our team is so undisciplined and makes so many mental mistakes that they make the other side look good, rather than us actually practicing well. 
 

We make every other team we play look great, so why wouldn’t it be the same for our own team in practice?

[Nivek 16933]

The team didn't even really show up for Texas Vs Ousux. Ousux. 

Ugh, this is completely wrong. Chris Brown showed up to cheer OU on every long run.

[CTC2 2797]

One incompetent asshole is about to lose his job in Nov so I see no reason why Herman should not as well.

[elguapo 4586]

Urban isn’t coming here, why even kid ourselves. Who is an actual replacement that’s a proven upgrade? 

[satyanash 14499]

Herman just doesn't learn. It's the Big 12!! SCORE!! Quit trying to control the game with such narrow margins.

 

[Chad 1728]

This was the worst OU team since 1999 and Herman couldn't get it done. Texas will forever remain a laughing stock in the CFB world so long as the HC that is 1-4 vs OU and has dropped 7 games to unranked opponents when Texas was ranked remains in charge.

[Hank Chinaski 6315]

If the school truly cared about the football program, they'd already be talking numbers with Urban. (Assuming he wasn't already coaching here.)

If Ohio St or Alabama were in year 11 of shit football, and the current fucking clown coach was as bad in year 4 as he was in year 1, and Urban is sitting out there...you do the math. 

Edited October 10, 2020 by Hank Chinaski

[HillaryFan420 121]

I disagree, mostly because the people saying he won't are in a bizzaroworld echo chamber where Covid prevents universities from firing people. That's the argument, the only one I've heard for 20 pages now.

The school can’t afford it. Boosters could afford it, but tens of millions of dollars is not peanuts to them and how much incentive do they even have at this point? Unless they can swing an agreement with Meyer, that money is likely going towards the hiring of the next Tom Herman.

[Thiefery 4995]

4 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Hire slowly (something we didn’t do with Strong or Herman) but you fire quickly. Break up with them. Rip the bandaid off. It won’t happen but it should. Herman has earned himself a quick firing. He may sound humble in his pressers now but he brought this all on himself. I don’t hate him. I just want him gone. We are gonna lose a ton of recruits. Not having the team acknowledge the fans in any way after a win or loss is pathetic. They don’t have to sing The Eyes (omg the horror) but fucking acknowledge the fans with a quick Hook’em or something. Geez. 

I get that but man that takes a toll on recruiting..transition classes suck, that said.. this 21 class is looking more like it

[taybo20 2825]

3 minutes ago, satyanash said:

Herman just doesn't learn. It's the Big 12!! SCORE!! Quit trying to control the game with such narrow margins.

 

He should at least start leading games instead of trying to score last win

[Lat22 4014]

I’m not reading any responses since the end of the game but I want him gone tomorrow. Gone. He’s never going to get us there.

[Not a Sock 2313]

2 minutes ago, satyanash said:

Herman just doesn't learn. It's the Big 12!! SCORE!! Quit trying to control the game with such narrow margins.

 

Hoooo Leeee FUUUUUKKK How has the the entire solar system not collapsed into black hole caused by this dense mother fucker.

[Bill Lumbergh 7171]

Urban isn’t coming here, why even kid ourselves. Who is an actual replacement that’s a proven upgrade? 

It doesn't have to be Urban. Herman is failing with a ton of talent. Why keep doing what has proven to fail instead of trying something that has risk of failing?

What is going well in the program now? Coaching stability? Roster stability? Play on the field? Recruiting?

Which part of our program are you worried will get worse under a new coach?

[Happy Gilmore 1001]

5 minutes ago, satyanash said:

Herman just doesn't learn. It's the Big 12!! SCORE!! Quit trying to control the game with such narrow margins.

 

Welp evident as ever. This motherfucker hates scoring points. You dumb fuck this is a fucking blow out if you just open it up. You had three turnovers. Let's not pretend the offense was giving the defense any rest either. 

 

Edited October 10, 2020 by Happy Gilmore
Picks.... Fumbles... Whatever

[pearlandhorn 3269]

2 minutes ago, Hank Chinaski said:

If the school truly cared about the football program, they'd already be talking numbers with Urban. (Assuming he wasn't already coaching here.)

If Ohio St or Alabama were in year 11 of shit football, and the current fucking clown coach was as bad in year 4 as he was in year 1, and Urban is sitting out there...you do the math. 

It's so hard to argue with this.  I can't come up with a logical reason as to why this isn't happening.

[Coach pop a bitch 5459]

1 minute ago, HillaryFan420 said:

The school can’t afford it. Boosters could afford it, but tens of millions of dollars is not peanuts to them and how much incentive do they even have at this point? Unless they can swing an agreement with Meyer, that money is likely going towards the hiring of the next Tom Herman.

Shit I'm sure surly can get a few  hundred bucks between me and a few guys that post on the vic mackey pof thread 

[jinx 2635]

4 minutes ago, satyanash said:

Herman just doesn't learn. It's the Big 12!! SCORE!! Quit trying to control the game with such narrow margins.

 

I don’t envision you winning games either Turtle

[futureman 22464]

is there a link to herman press conference?

[Juke_Em 47]

He will be safe after this season no matter what. But after 2021 is when he will be fired once they go 7-5 with a new QB. Unfortunately, I don't know who will be the answer (realistically). The coaching cupboard is bare

[Captain Ron 12877]

1 hour ago, Patricio Swayze said:

Fuck Herman

Fuck Herman

Fuck Herman

Players trying to do make it happen. Tom trying to lose and succeeds. Fuck this fraud pussy.

That reminds me of this

 

[DaysOff 7951]

They aren't winning out.
Follow my lead and stop watching until we have an actual head coach. 
Your life will be better for it.

Listen to this man.

[Mo Horn 8844]

The worst possible outcome. With the way the game ended all the pundits will ignore how unprepared we were and how horribly we played for 90% of the game. All the focus will be on how we came back and all the OT's. Herman will get a total pass. He shouldn't, but he will. I hope I'm wrong and he still gets crucified. 

Edited October 10, 2020 by Mo Horn

[Thiefery 4995]

2 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

The ONLY reason it might, is Texas Athletics doesn't give a shit about ever having a great football team.

Evidence points to they might not.

This is the break over point.

If they don't hire Urban, they don't give a fuck about ever being a good to great football school.

This is do or die for the program. 

It's that fucking binary. 

Fire Herman and hire Urban or Texas Football is and will always be an also ran. 

They did fire chuck and listened to the BMDs on bringing savior (at the time) Herman here..  They very well could do it again, we'll see.  Just have to have solid backups if Meyer/Dabo/Saban tier of coaches say no...

[BornOrange1955 77]

If Herman could only convince the opposition to play a prevent defense the entire game, and let Sam be Sam, we could win out. But if Herman tries to coach this team, we're screwed.

[Hank Chinaski 6315]

8 minutes ago, satyanash said:

Herman just doesn't learn. It's the Big 12!! SCORE!! Quit trying to control the game with such narrow margins.

 

The problem with Tom is that he doesn't understand that this is the only way to win games when your team has terrible discipline, kills itself with asinine penalties, and is fucking atrocious on special teams. And, well, he seems incapable of fixing those things.

[BornOrange1955 77]

3 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

The worst possible outcome. With the way the game all the pundits will ignore how unprepared we were and how horribly we played for 90% of the game. All the focus will be on how we came back and all the OT's. Herman will get a total pass. He shouldn't, but he will. I hope I'm wrong and he still gets crucified. 

Totally agree with this take. Add to it that Herman will think it confirms his genius as a 60 minute coach. I can hear him now. "There was no panic on the sideline. We knew we had time" Blah, blah, blah".

PS Shoulda gone for two in the second OT. You're gonna have to go for two to win anyway in the next OT cause we ain't gonna stop them from scoring. But that would have taken some balls, and well, you know, Tom.......

[HillaryFan420 121]

18 minutes ago, satyanash said:

Herman just doesn't learn. It's the Big 12!! SCORE!! Quit trying to control the game with such narrow margins.

 

He reminds me of BoB in some ways with respect to his philosophy for winning games.  Probably also confuses the causality between rushing yards and winning like BoB did.

[mdmost 43002]

We've gone from being one of those teams that might surprise people to just being a punchline. 

[Coach pop a bitch 5459]

 

[Js1 85346]

2 minutes ago, HillaryFan420 said:

He reminds me of BoB in some ways with respect to his philosophy for winning games.  Probably also confuses the causality between rushing yards and winning like BoB did.

2 former OCs who are scared to score points 

[taybo20 2825]

Maybe Herman should try and just win games first. I mean what the fuck is he even talking about. A win is a win is a win...do whatever it takes should be the strategy 

[Boerne Horn 418]

Just now, Coach pop a bitch said:

 

Donald Hawkins is absofuckinglutely correct

[Coach pop a bitch 5459]

 

[ClubWhatever 12144]

Their head coach does chicken bok bok moves to mock opposing players.  What does he expect. 

[Js1 85346]

2 minutes ago, HillaryFan420 said:

He reminds me of BoB in some ways with respect to his philosophy for winning games.  Probably also confuses the causality between rushing yards and winning like BoB did.

2 former OCs who are scared to score points 

[MonkeyDoughnut 10243]

We need to fully embrace the former Strong players and the BLM movement here to insure "equality" in Herman getting the Strong treatment and shown the door asap