Tom "the turtle" Herman [Lame Duck or greatest 5d chess player ever?]

[LTtxfan 48961]

Fyi... 😠

 

[closetohumping 17392]

6 minutes ago, Ricky Butler said:

Let's not do this. I live in LA, too, and I might look at it differently if I made 8 million dollars a year. Both Austin and LA have their appeal.

I live in LA....by choice.  Love it here.  But ole Buckeye makes Austin seem like Tupelo, which is really rich for someone who I think lives in Ohio.  I've lived all over the country, Austin has a lot of fans and some coaches could careless about places as large as LA.

[ztejas 43262]

15 minutes ago, caliHORNia said:

I have an actual f'n socialist leading my district's city council race. 

Yeah that would never happen in Austin.

[UT Lax 16]

6 hours ago, Wally Pryor said:

Nauseating:

https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/

 

 

 

It is hard to find a team even close to UT in underperforming their talent, particularly considering we have a 4 year starter at QB who was a pre-season heisman candidate. Yes, you could argue LSU, but they had 14 players drafted in the last NFL draft (a record tying # and a record tying 5 in the first round, including #1 overall), have a new QB and offensive coordinator, had 4 NFL top talents opt-out due to Covid, and they can hang their hats on the fact that they are the defending national champion.  The only team even close is Florida St. But, they had a losing record last year and have a new coaching staff.  

[ztejas 43262]

3 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Fyi... 😠

 

Funny take considering Texas is literally the most lucrative brand in college athletics.

[RollLeft 5039]

28 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

If you understand this concept, you wouldn't have already made an ass out of yourself highlighting your cluelessness about it. You're just the same old, boring, uneducated, jort-wearing, mouthbreathing rube you've always been here and your string of posts the past few pages showcase that. Why you aren't negged for every shitty take you fart out of your brain, through your keyboard and onto this board is beyond me.

Welcome back, dude.  

[GTX Horn 1707]

24 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Siap... If fired, targets are Urban or Shanahan

https://247sports.com/college/texas/Article/Texas-football-Tom-Herman-what-he-must-do-to-keep-his-job-152968408/?fbclid=IwAR38WzLeurusHY7rAAqUSlQgzlA-7kXzKbIZF4tXWiSvzFXtpxObRGVmFIM

 

Well this must be true  😂😂😂r

Sir Yacht: 

Who the fuck is Sir Yacht?

[vtaenz 601]

1 hour ago, Nope said:

 

That worst season thing doesn't mean shit because teams that are dominant can become shit (see: Texas), and the ooc schedule started to get more competitive.
Looking at our schedule and the ooc losses from those years:
2014 - Maybe he beats BYU and UCLA. 
2015 - A competent offense may make the Notre Dame game decent, not like Mack had recruited a QB though by this point. Maybe he doesn't choke away Cal
2016 - He probably doesn't lose to Cal
2017 - Maybe he beats Maryland, I doubt he beats USC, I think we were all surprised how close we came to beating them.
2018 - Again he might beat Maryland.
2019 - I don't think he beats LSU.

He might have a few more wins, but the way the offense had looked in his final years and the lack of good recruits coming in and player development, I think it may have gotten worse. Charlie tried to instill discipline and did okay bringing in some talent but there was a lot he did not do well. Herman has brought in some talent and has done somewhat better. Not as many blowout losses as in the last two regimes. 

[Huckleberry 32694]

3 hours ago, dcar00 said:

that makes the path harder IMO.

Yep. Riley has a structural issue with fielding a good defense based on practice and resource allocation. Plus he hired Bennie Wylie so he's got some major holes as a head coach. 

4 years in and he's taken Oklahoma to their worst roster and team in two decades. But maybe it's their turn to miss on a hire.

Edited October 14, 2020 by Huckleberry

[Ricky Butler 2657]

7 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

I live in LA....by choice.  Love it here.  But ole Buckeye makes Austin seem like Tupelo, which is really rich for someone who I think lives in Ohio.  I've lived all over the country, Austin has a lot of fans and some coaches could careless about places as large as LA.

He's dragging us into a dumb argument. Saban lives in Alabama... willingly.

[Ricky Butler 2657]

1 minute ago, Huckleberry said:

4 years in and he's taken Oklahoma to their worst roster and team in two decades. But maybe it's their turn to miss on a hire.

It's bound to happen before I die, right?

Right...?

[Huckleberry 32694]

4 minutes ago, Ricky Butler said:

It's bound to happen before I die, right?

Right...?

I dunno, man. John Blake bought them some time on the other side of the coin. 

[UT Lax 16]

5 hours ago, Treefidy said:

Whoever replaces Mensa will get 25-35M over 5 minimum.   We aren’t getting Urban on a 5@5M more like a 5@10M if it happens

That is exactly my point. There is not a coach that is good enough to be a virtual guarantee to turn UT football around that would be worth paying $25mn to buyout current staff and then on top of that guarantee another $25-$35mn over 5 years. I would much rather lockdown a more certain future in guaranteeing Urban Meyer or Shanahan $50mn then potentially piss away another $25-$35mn and be in the same boat 3 years later!  Therefore, unfortunately in this environment, if we can't lock down Urban Meyer or Shanahan with an offer that is too good to refuse, the prudent thing to do is just wait a year, reduce the buyout by $10mn and let Herman completely implode without this year's senior class.  

[CBHorn 414]

2 hours ago, ImissWallyPryor said:

I’d be scared shitless if Stoops was on that flight. 
 

On second thought, i would wish that on Mensa, Kurt, and their pilot, FCB. 

Me too because Stoops would start with eating dicks.

[RGBIII 22798]

21 minutes ago, GTX Horn said:

Who the fuck is Sir Yacht?

Hes the random dude that said the big ten is coming back before anyone else (Probably just got lucky) 

[jinx 2635]

3 hours ago, Rip76 said:

We’re gonna fuck this up aren’t we.

We always do, I don't expect this to be different.

[BurntOrange&White 39606]

4 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

Hes the random dude that said the big ten is coming back before anyone else (Probably just got lucky) 

He just repeated everyday after they cancelled until eventually it became true. He was quite the fucking meme in some college discord servers I read. 

[Happy Gilmore 1001]

4 minutes ago, jinx said:

We always do, I don't expect this to be different.

Until we don't no reason to get our hopes up. That being said I have faith in CDC hiring the right guy. He's been nails on his first two actual hires. Klieman feels like a dark horse candidate imo. 

[Valmy77 13093]

26 minutes ago, Ricky Butler said:

It's bound to happen before I die, right?

Right...?

I mean they are hot garbage on defense right now and have been for years and that is unlikely to change.

We are just not going to be the team that takes advantage...much like we failed to do during the John Blake era.

[MoJames 8241]

On a side note.

 

[alincoln 2364]

Shelley Meyer doesn't want to live in L.A. or Austin.  She wants to split time between Columbus and Florida and has zero interest in Urban coaching again.  Neither do his kids.  People love to shit on Urban's health problems but they are real and are exacerbated by stress.  

All of that said, Urban calls the shots and could decide to coach again, but his family would strongly resist it.  I have been told that Urban is very aware of his legacy and what a NC at a third school would mean.  He is also very aware of his winning percentage (3rd after Rockne and Leahy) and doesn't want to jeopardize that by taking the wrong job.

Frankly, I would be shocked if he took the Texas job but never underestimate Urban's ego/self-belief.  The only job I can see Urban taking would be Notre Dame if Kelly bailed in the relatively near future for some reason.

[TriStone 1724]

2 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

People stating definitives like this when they clearly don’t actually know anything is always great.

Especially funny when that certainty vanishes in the very next sentence.

[dcar00 14030]

13 minutes ago, jinx said:

We always do, I don't expect this to be different.

this.  we don't have DKR to save our ass this time.

[caliHORNia 44]

49 minutes ago, Ricky Butler said:

Let's not do this. I live in LA, too, and I might look at it differently if I made 8 million dollars a year. Both Austin and LA have their appeal.

It's highly subjective.  I find almost nothing appealing about LA.  

[LTtxfan 48961]

2 minutes ago, alincoln said:

Shelley Meyer doesn't want to live in L.A. or Austin.  She wants to split time between Columbus and Florida and has zero interest in Urban coaching again.  Neither do his kids.  People love to shit on Urban's health problems but they are real and are exacerbated by stress.  

All of that said, Urban calls the shots and could decide to coach again, but his family would strongly resist it.  I have been told that Urban is very aware of his legacy and what a NC at a third school would mean.  He is also very aware of his winning percentage (3rd after Rockne and Leahy) and doesn't want to jeopardize that by taking the wrong job.

Frankly, I would be shocked if he took the Texas job but never underestimate Urban's ego/self-belief.  The only job I can see Urban taking would be Notre Dame if Kelly bailed in the relatively near future for some reason.

So why do the Meyers hang out in Fort Collins, Co so much?? 😁

[Teamdirtyleg 1058]

21 minutes ago, CBHorn said:

 

Edited October 14, 2020 by Teamdirtyleg

[dcar00 14030]

39 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Yep. Riley has a structural issue with fielding a good defense based on practice and resource allocation. Plus he hired Bennie Wylie so he's got some major holes as a head coach. 

4 years in and he's taken Oklahoma to their worst roster and team in two decades. But maybe it's their turn to miss on a hire.

ha yeah.  but I was meaning OU hires Urban if Riley bolts.  Likely proper fucked but that leaves us an opening to get Belichick

[Enchubben 5509]

1 hour ago, Irish Wrist Watch said:

Seems to me that if they were friends, that, and the fact that Meyer already has all the money he'll ever need, might keep him from taking the UT job - unless Herman has already been fired. (It would look bad if Herman is fired and Meyer announced as new HC a week later.) Keep in mind that a million bucks to Meyer is probably like fifty grand to you or me. Would you screw over a friend for $50k?

Which one do you want? Half due now, half upon completion. 

[alincoln 2364]

4 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

So why do the Meyers hang out in Fort Collins, Co so much?? 😁

Because they still have a bunch of friends and roots there, unlike Austin and LA

[dcar00 14030]

1 hour ago, Bill Lumbergh said:

Seems some people are looking at NC now and saying "see, they fucked up firing him," ignoring the fact that Mack has even said that he needed to step back and observe as a commentator for a few years to get some perspective and get reenergized with a fresh approach.

Anyone thinking his ride at Texas was going to do anything other than continue to go downhill if continued is delusional.

I'm all in on FUMB.  gravy train ridin'/program destroyin' mother fucking pantywaste.  dude fucked us good on the way out.

[Bodacious Bevo 3576]

50 minutes ago, UT Lax said:

It is hard to find a team even close to UT in underperforming their talent, particularly considering we have a 4 year starter at QB who was a pre-season heisman candidate. Yes, you could argue LSU, but they had 14 players drafted in the last NFL draft (a record tying # and a record tying 5 in the first round, including #1 overall), have a new QB and offensive coordinator, had 4 NFL top talents opt-out due to Covid, and they can hang their hats on the fact that they are the defending national champion.  The only team even close is Florida St. But, they had a losing record last year and have a new coaching staff.  

LSU this year is going through the pains we had last year

LSU last year is what we were supposed to be this year 

(I mean we weren't actually going to be as good as LSU last year but you get my point)

[closetohumping 17392]

13 minutes ago, alincoln said:

Shelley Meyer doesn't want to live in L.A. or Austin.  She wants to split time between Columbus and Florida and has zero interest in Urban coaching again.  Neither do his kids.  People love to shit on Urban's health problems but they are real and are exacerbated by stress.  

All of that said, Urban calls the shots and could decide to coach again, but his family would strongly resist it.  I have been told that Urban is very aware of his legacy and what a NC at a third school would mean.  He is also very aware of his winning percentage (3rd after Rockne and Leahy) and doesn't want to jeopardize that by taking the wrong job.

Frankly, I would be shocked if he took the Texas job but never underestimate Urban's ego/self-belief.  The only job I can see Urban taking would be Notre Dame if Kelly bailed in the relatively near future for some reason.

Yet they hang out in Ft. Collins often?  Also, there is no real threat in this conference, save OU.  He can increase his winning percentage in the Big 12.  Hell he probably had more Texas talent than 3/4 of the schools in this confernece. 

47 minutes ago, GTX Horn said:

Who the fuck is Sir Yacht?

Cousin of Captain Stabbin.

[Hagbard Celine 10751]

49 minutes ago, RollLeft said:

Welcome back, dude.  

yeah, sometimes i hate the fucker but other times he's one of our TOP MEN

[Wally Pryor 5243]

4 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

I'm all in on FUMB.  gravy train ridin'/program destroyin' mother fucking pantywaste.  dude fucked us good on the way out.

Fucked us to the nth degree.   Can never overstate that. 

[UncleBuck 6444]

Will this thread beat the Texas Recruiting Notes 2021 thread to 1,000?

[dcar00 14030]

2 minutes ago, Wally Pryor said:

Fucked us to the nth degree.   Can never overstate that. 

And then the idiot Patterson took it to 11.  those 2 guys have us where we are.  neither Charlie Strong or Tom Herman should have ever been the head coach at Texas.  Its like we absolutely forgot we hired McWilliams and Mackovic after we fired Akers.  quit fucking around.

[Hagbard Celine 10751]

43 minutes ago, UT Lax said:

That is exactly my point. There is not a coach that is good enough to be a virtual guarantee to turn UT football around that would be worth paying $25mn to buyout current staff and then on top of that guarantee another $25-$35mn over 5 years. I would much rather lockdown a more certain future in guaranteeing Urban Meyer or Shanahan $50mn then potentially piss away another $25-$35mn and be in the same boat 3 years later!  Therefore, unfortunately in this environment, if we can't lock down Urban Meyer or Shanahan with an offer that is too good to refuse, the prudent thing to do is just wait a year, reduce the buyout by $10mn and let Herman completely implode without this year's senior class.  

Cut new theology.

$1m per win.  Straight up.   3-year deal.  If the wins roll in, the cashflow to Bellmont will accelerate way past the $1M per win outlay.

You get 1 OC and 1 DC.  Year 1, $100k per win.  Year 2, $125k per win.  Year 3, $150k per win.

All other assistants on some kind of "base + commission (wins)".

It's all performance based.

and NO BUY OUT.

I think Urbs takes that deal.  It's a double-dog-dareya.  If he doesn't take it, he's "weak" and "not hungry" and "unwilling to put skin in the game".

The optics are superb.  There's no Boomhauer pornonumber attached to the news cycle.

 

 

[dcar00 14030]

1 minute ago, Hagbard Celine said:

Cut new theology.

$1m per win.  Straight up.   3-year deal.  If the wins roll in, the cashflow to Bellmont will accelerate way past the $1M per win outlay.

You get 1 OC and 1 DC.  Year 1, $100k per win.  Year 2, $125k per win.  Year 3, $150k per win.

All other assistants on some kind of "base + commission (wins)".

It's all performance based.

and NO BUY OUT.

I think Urbs takes that deal.  It's a double-dog-dareya.  If he doesn't take it, he's "weak" and "not hungry" and "unwilling to put skin in the game".

The optics are superb.  There's no Boomhauer pornonumber attached to the news cycle.

 

 

Ricky Williams would approve...

[LTtxfan 48961]

9 minutes ago, UncleBuck said:

Will this thread beat the Texas Recruiting Notes 2021 thread to 1,000?

[SwanderedTalent 5761]

32 minutes ago, alincoln said:

She wants to split time between Columbus and Florida

They're millionaires several times over and this isn't a permanent term thing for Urban-- less than eight years, probably. She can split time wherever the fuck she wants. Who even knows if she's been to Austin, she might find she likes it here a lot more than either of those places. 

[Herpa Derpa 6110]

33 minutes ago, alincoln said:

 She wants

She pay the bills?

[Hiphopopotamos 20865]

34 minutes ago, alincoln said:

Shelley Meyer doesn't want to live in L.A. or Austin.  She wants to split time between Columbus and Florida and has zero interest in Urban coaching again.  Neither do his kids.  People love to shit on Urban's health problems but they are real and are exacerbated by stress.  

All of that said, Urban calls the shots and could decide to coach again, but his family would strongly resist it.  I have been told that Urban is very aware of his legacy and what a NC at a third school would mean.  He is also very aware of his winning percentage (3rd after Rockne and Leahy) and doesn't want to jeopardize that by taking the wrong job.

Frankly, I would be shocked if he took the Texas job but never underestimate Urban's ego/self-belief.  The only job I can see Urban taking would be Notre Dame if Kelly bailed in the relatively near future for some reason.

I bet there is a BMD with a plane that would fly her wherever the fuck she wants to go whenever the fuck she wants to get there.  

Does Urban want to coach again - and are the money /situation right for him at Texas? 

[closetohumping 17392]

2 minutes ago, SwanderedTalent said:

They're millionaires several times over and this isn't a permanent term thing for Urban-- less than eight years, probably. She can split time wherever the fuck she wants. Who even knows if she's been to Austin, she might find she likes it here a lot more than either of those places. 

I've read Urban is very fond of Austin.  It's no Ohio, but it has its plusses.

[A’Dam Psycho 1469]

Just to add more to this shit stew, I honestly feel like Jared Wiley could be to us what Stogner is currently to OU. He might honestly be the best TE we’ve had since Blaine Irby 2008. Yet here we are playing grab ass with Cade Brewer aka Geoff Swaim  2.0. Why don’t we use our big body tall TEs the way OU used Calcaterra, Andrews, Stogner, etc? 

[Rip76 4913]

 

[Atticus 3920]

Just to add more to this shit stew, I honestly feel like Jared Wiley could be to us what Stogner is currently to OU. He might honestly be the best TE we’ve had since Blaine Irby 2008. Yet here we are playing grab ass with Cade Brewer aka Geoff Swaim  2.0. Why don’t we use our big body tall TEs the way OU used Calcaterra, Andrews, Stogner, etc? 

Cade Brewer is only similar to Swaim as a receiving threat

[Fondren & Main 6665]

1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

If you understand this concept, you wouldn't have already made an ass out of yourself highlighting your cluelessness about it. You're just the same old, boring, uneducated, jort-wearing, mouthbreathing rube you've always been here and your string of posts the past few pages showcase that. Why you aren't negged for every shitty take you fart out of your brain, through your keyboard and onto this board is beyond me.

It's a real problem when these knuckleheads leave the self-congratulating atmosphere of the Cloak Room.  They think that their opinions carry weight.  They have this self-aggrandizing view of themselves and come to other boards spouting off complete imbecilic nonsense.  It's a real problem.  

[BurntOrange&White 39606]

10 minutes ago, A’Dam Psycho said:

Just to add more to this shit stew, I honestly feel like Jared Wiley could be to us what Stogner is currently to OU. He might honestly be the best TE we’ve had since Blaine Irby 2008. Yet here we are playing grab ass with Cade Brewer aka Geoff Swaim  2.0. Why don’t we use our big body tall TEs the way OU used Calcaterra, Andrews, Stogner, etc? 

Geoff Swaim, drafted to the nfl and still on a roster swaim? 
 

probably not the best guy to compare him to 

[WhatTheBuck 28705]

2 hours ago, Ricky Butler said:

You need to look in the mirror and ask yourself why you don't want us to have Urban Meyer. And then you need to not spend so much time on a Texas message board.

I don't care. I'm just a neutral observer. I do find it interesting watching Texas fans who've been shitting all over Urban for the past decade twist themselves into knots convincing themselves that of course he'll be the next Texas coach and all it takes will be an offer. 

[BurntOrange&White 39606]

1 minute ago, WhatTheBuck said:

I don't care. I'm just a neutral observer. I do find it interesting watching Texas fans who've been shitting all over Urban for the past decade twist themselves into knots convincing themselves that of course he'll be the next Texas coach and all it takes will be an offer. 

Shut up bitch. It’s simple. We want to win. He’s the best option. 
 

go fuck yourself with bob stoops dick