Tom "the turtle" Herman [Lame Duck or greatest 5d chess player ever?]

[52-80 19377]

good mornin

 

is tom fired yet?

[Longboard Horn 41360]

15 hours ago, Atticus said:

I know people in Florida, and I’ve heard that Urban has always wanted to coach at Ohio State, Notre Dame, and Texas

You see, I can make shit up too

 

15 hours ago, Herpa Derpa said:

I heard that when he got off the plane in L.A. he said "Thank God I never have to live in Ohio again."

 

15 hours ago, UncleBuck said:

I heard he has always wanted to chase tornados and would take the OU job over any other job in the whole worlds.

I heard he bathes in the blood of virgins and sacrifices roosters.  

[Mother mopar 3387]

Craps table milf

Chows 7-11 guy or austin uber driver

[SunUvAbitchMarcos 129]

Coulda had Saban. Instead we got Amos and Andy. ::no racist::


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[Bevo 13899]

6 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

It didn't get much publicity, but I would guess that Petrino's little fling not only cost him his job, but most of the contract money, based on the "morality clause."

[TejasPedro 1918]

Not to infuse politics in this whole mess but all we need now to destabilize the already fragile longhorn Nation  is to have some George Soros billionaire come in and fund the buyout and pay for the new contract of Urban Meyer. It would destabilize the College football landscape and usher in a new world order. 

[UncleBuck 6455]

Not to infuse politics in this whole mess but all we need now to destabilize the already fragile longhorn Nation  is to have some George Soros billionaire come in and fund the buyout and pay for the new contract of Urban Meyer. It would destabilize the College football landscape and usher in a new world order. 

[hookem17 485]

36 minutes ago, TejasPedro said:

Not to infuse politics in this whole mess but all we need now to destabilize the already fragile longhorn Nation  is to have some George Soros billionaire come in and fund the buyout and pay for the new contract of Urban Meyer. It would destabilize the College football landscape and usher in a new world order. 

Wat?

Edited October 15, 2020 by hookem17

[TejasPedro 1918]

Trying to draw in a billionaire to fund operation Cesspool Cleanse 

[PilotsError 2337]

How would that destabilize anything?

[NoName 17151]

15 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

Cut new theology.

$1m per win.  Straight up.   3-year deal.  If the wins roll in, the cashflow to Bellmont will accelerate way past the $1M per win outlay.

You get 1 OC and 1 DC.  Year 1, $100k per win.  Year 2, $125k per win.  Year 3, $150k per win.

All other assistants on some kind of "base + commission (wins)".

It's all performance based.

and NO BUY OUT.

I think Urbs takes that deal.  It's a double-dog-dareya.  If he doesn't take it, he's "weak" and "not hungry" and "unwilling to put skin in the game".

The optics are superb.  There's no Boomhauer pornonumber attached to the news cycle.

 

 

i thought this was an @Hank Scorpiopost at first, then i realized you were probably serious

[DigglerontheHoof 21552]

1 hour ago, TejasPedro said:

Not to infuse politics in this whole mess but all we need now to destabilize the already fragile longhorn Nation  is to have some George Soros billionaire come in and fund the buyout and pay for the new contract of Urban Meyer. It would destabilize the College football landscape and usher in a new world order. 

[Bluemoon3287 56]

9 hours ago, Mo Horn said:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/id/EJA562-1602679102-5-6-33

And you would find this flight from Austin to Columbus scheduled for early tomorrow morning. 

If you could get THAT, surely you can get tail number and find the passenger list ?  I mean, any REAL longhorn fan......

[Kel Varnsen 8748]

All I know is that this needs to happen before No Nut November

[Irish Wrist Watch 1503]

1 hour ago, TejasPedro said:

Not to infuse politics in this whole mess but all we need now to destabilize the already fragile longhorn Nation  is to have some George Soros billionaire come in and fund the buyout and pay for the new contract of Urban Meyer. It would destabilize the College football landscape and usher in a new world order. 

No billionaire in Texas would have the raw courage - the chutzpah - to save his state from all this embarrassment. It would take a man among men to step up to the plate, buy off everyone and make it happen. What billionaire would dare to become a hero who would go down in Texas lore for eternity and bring Championships back home. Such a man would likely get his image carved on the side of a West Texas Mountain or an Austin cliff. He'd have songs written about him. Coeds flocking to him. Sadly, no such modern hero exists...

[WinningIsHard 4171]

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The Insider: Eyes of Texas debacle raises stakes for Herman

VIP ByCHIP BROWN 14 minutes ago

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On Wednesday, I spoke with Texas track coach Edrick Floreal, men’s swimming coach Eddie Reese, women’s swimming coach Carol Capitani and softball coach Mike White about what’s been relayed from athletic director Chris Del Conte to UT coaches about how their teams should handle the playing of the Eyes of Texas following competitions.

“Chris (Del Conte) has made it clear in the current climate, no athlete will be forced to sing (the Eyes), but that we’re going to continue to have the song as a tradition and to behave respectfully during the Eyes,” Floreal said.

Reese, who has won 14 national titles, said Del Conte has repeatedly addressed the Eyes during weekly coaches meetings since the summer.

“The understanding we have is during the playing of the Eyes of Texas, we don’t have to sing or Hookem, but we should be there as a team,” Reese said.

White added, “He (Del Conte) has given us some guidelines, such as staying on the field for it (the Eyes). Beyond that, the student-athletes don’t have to sing it if they’re not comfortable with it.

“Our student-athletes have a voice and deserve to have their own opinion. We have to respect that. The student-athletes should also be respectful of the other side’s opinion - the alumni and boosters of the program - that see the Eyes of Texas as a source of pride and not as a song with racial overtones.”

Capitani said, “He (Del Conte) told the coaches, ‘Bring your team together, do what you need to do to show respect and appreciation for the fans, but you don’t have to sing the song.’”

Capitani said Del Conte reached out to coaches again last week to make sure everyone was on the same page about the Eyes of Texas.

“He said, ‘I don’t want people just running off the field. That gives the impression your team is divided,’” Capitani quoted Del Conte as saying. “He (Del Conte) was upset, because he thought he had communicated that well previously and been clear with his expectations.”

 

Three fall sports are currently competing: football, women’s soccer and volleyball.

The Texas soccer team has stood together, arm-in-arm during the post-game playing of the Eyes.

After the volleyball team huddled initially, with their backs to the fans, during the Eyes, Del Conte went and met with the team and asked the players to simply stand during the Eyes as a show of respect and appreciation for the Texas fans in attendance.

Despite Del Conte reiterating to all his coaches last week not to have players running off the field, the post-game debacle with the Eyes occurred at the Cotton Bowl.

 

So Del Conte met with the football team Wednesday before practice. According to sources, Del Conte asked players to remain on the field for the Eyes.

We’ll know how the team digested that message at UT’s next home game - against Baylor on Oct. 24.

(As of right now, Baylor is indicating to Texas the Bears expect to be back at practice this weekend and that next week’s game doesn’t appear to be in jeopardy, barring any new developments.)

 

Herman opened his weekly press conference on Monday addressing the Eyes, and it was clear his vision of how things should go didn’t match up with Del Conte’s expectations.

“I’ve encouraged our staff and team to join me in participating (in the Eyes) after games, if they are comfortable doing that,” Herman said. “I do believe it’s important that we acknowledge and thank our fans after a hard-fought game.

“ … That said, some members of our program have concerns and aren’t comfortable participating at this time. And I respect that as well.”

 

Complicating the issue Saturday was the delay in the playing of the Eyes by the Cotton Bowl operations staff. As the home team, Oklahoma’s alma mater was played first.

Without the band attending Texas games thus far, the Eyes wasn’t played at UT’s road game with Texas Tech.

According to sources, a large number of Texas football players — even players who wanted to stand for the Eyes after the OU game — didn’t think the Eyes were going to be played and headed to the locker room as OU’s Golden Hat celebration began.

 

“I don’t think the players were told about the Eyes being played after the OU game, because I know there are many players who would’ve been out there with Sam (Ehlinger),” one parent of a Texas player told Horns247.

That parent said the image of Ehlinger standing alone, “as if abandoned by his teammates, was upsetting to a lot of players who want to be present for the Eyes. And it’s resulted in a lot of players — and their parents — being asked about why they weren’t there. It’s another, needless distraction for a team trying to get their season going.”

 

That parent and multiple other team sources said contrary to speculation, the Texas locker room is anything but divided.

“Everything I’m hearing is the players are closeknit and still working very hard,” the parent said. “I think they’re just frustrated they aren’t playing better. But any narrative that the team is divided is totally false.”

We’ll see where things go from here on the field.

Off the field, the Eyes snafu at the Cotton Bowl has raised the stakes for Herman in terms of job security.

Phone calls and emails with questions and concerns from influential boosters have poured into UT president Jay Hartzell’s office, sources said.

 

A source close to Hartzell said, “It’s been conveyed to Tom Herman and all our coaches the expectation is for student-athletes to be present for the post-game playing of the Eyes of Texas.

“Three teams are playing right now. Two are getting it right (soccer and volleyball). One is getting it wrong (football). That speaks to coaching.”

Sources said reports of some $25 million in UT athletics facility upgrade pledges drying up are false.

 

“We’re in close contact with our donors,” the source in the UT Tower told Horns247. “And Chris (Del Conte) does an exhaustive job of responding and communicating with all Texas fans and boosters. He holds town hall meetings to explain everything going on. He’s totally transparent, and it’s appreciated.”

One UT head coach who asked to remain anonymous said the post-game optics at the Cotton Bowl were bad for the entire university and now serve as a cautionary tale for UT's other coaches and teams.

 

“We are all cheering for football," the coach said. "And Chris (Del Conte) makes it clear to all of us football is the engine of the athletic department.

"But what happened last Saturday gives the impression we're fighting amongst ourselves when our focus needs to be on being one as a university, focused on fighting our on-field enemies.

"And, obviously, when you're not winning, this stuff gets magnified even more. If Texas wins that game, no one is talking about this."

 

Hartzell has worked diligently to meet with members of the 149 student organizations as well as black student-athletes at Texas, who made demands in June for a more inclusive campus.

Those demands included replacing the Eyes of Texas with “a new song without racist undertones.”

In July, Hartzell announced several changes to make the campus more inclusive, including a statue of the first black football letterman at Texas - Julius Whittier - as well as renaming the school’s football field for Texas Heisman Trophy winners Earl Campbell and Ricky Williams.

 

Hartzell said the Eyes would remain as UT’s school song and UT “will own, acknowledge and teach about all aspects of the origins of ‘The Eyes of Texas’ as we continue to sing it moving forward with a redefined vision that unites our community.”

Last week, Hartzell announced the report looking into the origins of the Eyes would be overseen by professor Richard Reddick, the school’s associate dean for equity, community engagement and outreach in UT’s College of Education.

 

“As we move forward and continue to perform and sing ‘The Eyes,’ it is critical that we understand the full history of the song, share that history broadly and provide context around its meanings, origins and roles during the past 120 years,” Hartzell said.

He added, “Our important work to ensure that every person on our campus - regardless of background - knows and feels they are welcome at UT will not be completed in a few months. It will take years - and will take all of us participating.”

 

So, Herman's list of things to clean up following a 2-2 start and his seventh loss to an unranked opponent as a ranked team (most in FBS since 2017) now includes his team's handling of the Eyes.

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Ironically, when asked on Monday how he'll address the Eyes with his team in the short term, Herman said he would rely on the school's leaders.

"Our leadership, both at a university level and an athletic department level, is working very hard on that," Herman said. "And we'll follow their lead, wherever that takes us."

It would be great if Chip Brown and Herman move on together from Texas. 

[Steel Shank 9556]

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and of being exposed as some kind of perv or drunk or whatever.

and then hanging out on Surly for most of the day.

[Liquor and Poker 3659]

7 years ago

“We don’t care how big a buyout he wants!  Just give it to him!  He’s going to fix the mess Mack created and Texas will be back!”  

4 years ago:

”Fuck.  Strong’s buyout is kind of an issue.  Gonna cost so much to get rid of him.  Makes options tricky.”

3 years, 10 months ago:

“We don’t care how big a buyout he wants!  Just give it to him!  He’s going to fix the mess Charlie created and Texas will be back!”  

Today:

”Fuck.  Herman’s buyout is kind of an issue.  Gonna cost so much to get rid of him.  Makes options tricky.”

[markstanco 12793]

Coastal Carolina will likely be ranked next week.  Here is a school that is in either North or South Carolina (not sure, but I take it they are on the east side of one of these states) and are ranked ahead of TEXAS.

Good job Tom.  Earning that paycheck. 

[UncleBuck 6455]

The Insider: Eyes of Texas debacle raises stakes for Herman

VIP ByCHIP BROWN 14 minutes ago

•  
•  
•  

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On Wednesday, I spoke with Texas track coach Edrick Floreal, men’s swimming coach Eddie Reese, women’s swimming coach Carol Capitani and softball coach Mike White about what’s been relayed from athletic director Chris Del Conte to UT coaches about how their teams should handle the playing of the Eyes of Texas following competitions.

“Chris (Del Conte) has made it clear in the current climate, no athlete will be forced to sing (the Eyes), but that we’re going to continue to have the song as a tradition and to behave respectfully during the Eyes,” Floreal said.

Reese, who has won 14 national titles, said Del Conte has repeatedly addressed the Eyes during weekly coaches meetings since the summer.

“The understanding we have is during the playing of the Eyes of Texas, we don’t have to sing or Hookem, but we should be there as a team,” Reese said.

White added, “He (Del Conte) has given us some guidelines, such as staying on the field for it (the Eyes). Beyond that, the student-athletes don’t have to sing it if they’re not comfortable with it.

“Our student-athletes have a voice and deserve to have their own opinion. We have to respect that. The student-athletes should also be respectful of the other side’s opinion - the alumni and boosters of the program - that see the Eyes of Texas as a source of pride and not as a song with racial overtones.”

Capitani said, “He (Del Conte) told the coaches, ‘Bring your team together, do what you need to do to show respect and appreciation for the fans, but you don’t have to sing the song.’”

Capitani said Del Conte reached out to coaches again last week to make sure everyone was on the same page about the Eyes of Texas.

“He said, ‘I don’t want people just running off the field. That gives the impression your team is divided,’” Capitani quoted Del Conte as saying. “He (Del Conte) was upset, because he thought he had communicated that well previously and been clear with his expectations.”

 

Three fall sports are currently competing: football, women’s soccer and volleyball.

The Texas soccer team has stood together, arm-in-arm during the post-game playing of the Eyes.

After the volleyball team huddled initially, with their backs to the fans, during the Eyes, Del Conte went and met with the team and asked the players to simply stand during the Eyes as a show of respect and appreciation for the Texas fans in attendance.

Despite Del Conte reiterating to all his coaches last week not to have players running off the field, the post-game debacle with the Eyes occurred at the Cotton Bowl.

 

So Del Conte met with the football team Wednesday before practice. According to sources, Del Conte asked players to remain on the field for the Eyes.

We’ll know how the team digested that message at UT’s next home game - against Baylor on Oct. 24.

(As of right now, Baylor is indicating to Texas the Bears expect to be back at practice this weekend and that next week’s game doesn’t appear to be in jeopardy, barring any new developments.)

 

Herman opened his weekly press conference on Monday addressing the Eyes, and it was clear his vision of how things should go didn’t match up with Del Conte’s expectations.

“I’ve encouraged our staff and team to join me in participating (in the Eyes) after games, if they are comfortable doing that,” Herman said. “I do believe it’s important that we acknowledge and thank our fans after a hard-fought game.

“ … That said, some members of our program have concerns and aren’t comfortable participating at this time. And I respect that as well.”

 

Complicating the issue Saturday was the delay in the playing of the Eyes by the Cotton Bowl operations staff. As the home team, Oklahoma’s alma mater was played first.

Without the band attending Texas games thus far, the Eyes wasn’t played at UT’s road game with Texas Tech.

According to sources, a large number of Texas football players — even players who wanted to stand for the Eyes after the OU game — didn’t think the Eyes were going to be played and headed to the locker room as OU’s Golden Hat celebration began.

 

“I don’t think the players were told about the Eyes being played after the OU game, because I know there are many players who would’ve been out there with Sam (Ehlinger),” one parent of a Texas player told Horns247.

That parent said the image of Ehlinger standing alone, “as if abandoned by his teammates, was upsetting to a lot of players who want to be present for the Eyes. And it’s resulted in a lot of players — and their parents — being asked about why they weren’t there. It’s another, needless distraction for a team trying to get their season going.”

 

That parent and multiple other team sources said contrary to speculation, the Texas locker room is anything but divided.

“Everything I’m hearing is the players are closeknit and still working very hard,” the parent said. “I think they’re just frustrated they aren’t playing better. But any narrative that the team is divided is totally false.”

We’ll see where things go from here on the field.

Off the field, the Eyes snafu at the Cotton Bowl has raised the stakes for Herman in terms of job security.

Phone calls and emails with questions and concerns from influential boosters have poured into UT president Jay Hartzell’s office, sources said.

 

A source close to Hartzell said, “It’s been conveyed to Tom Herman and all our coaches the expectation is for student-athletes to be present for the post-game playing of the Eyes of Texas.

“Three teams are playing right now. Two are getting it right (soccer and volleyball). One is getting it wrong (football). That speaks to coaching.”

Sources said reports of some $25 million in UT athletics facility upgrade pledges drying up are false.

 

“We’re in close contact with our donors,” the source in the UT Tower told Horns247. “And Chris (Del Conte) does an exhaustive job of responding and communicating with all Texas fans and boosters. He holds town hall meetings to explain everything going on. He’s totally transparent, and it’s appreciated.”

One UT head coach who asked to remain anonymous said the post-game optics at the Cotton Bowl were bad for the entire university and now serve as a cautionary tale for UT's other coaches and teams.

 

“We are all cheering for football," the coach said. "And Chris (Del Conte) makes it clear to all of us football is the engine of the athletic department.

"But what happened last Saturday gives the impression we're fighting amongst ourselves when our focus needs to be on being one as a university, focused on fighting our on-field enemies.

"And, obviously, when you're not winning, this stuff gets magnified even more. If Texas wins that game, no one is talking about this."

 

Hartzell has worked diligently to meet with members of the 149 student organizations as well as black student-athletes at Texas, who made demands in June for a more inclusive campus.

Those demands included replacing the Eyes of Texas with “a new song without racist undertones.”

In July, Hartzell announced several changes to make the campus more inclusive, including a statue of the first black football letterman at Texas - Julius Whittier - as well as renaming the school’s football field for Texas Heisman Trophy winners Earl Campbell and Ricky Williams.

 

Hartzell said the Eyes would remain as UT’s school song and UT “will own, acknowledge and teach about all aspects of the origins of ‘The Eyes of Texas’ as we continue to sing it moving forward with a redefined vision that unites our community.”

Last week, Hartzell announced the report looking into the origins of the Eyes would be overseen by professor Richard Reddick, the school’s associate dean for equity, community engagement and outreach in UT’s College of Education.

 

“As we move forward and continue to perform and sing ‘The Eyes,’ it is critical that we understand the full history of the song, share that history broadly and provide context around its meanings, origins and roles during the past 120 years,” Hartzell said.

He added, “Our important work to ensure that every person on our campus - regardless of background - knows and feels they are welcome at UT will not be completed in a few months. It will take years - and will take all of us participating.”

 

So, Herman's list of things to clean up following a 2-2 start and his seventh loss to an unranked opponent as a ranked team (most in FBS since 2017) now includes his team's handling of the Eyes.

1COMMENTS

Ironically, when asked on Monday how he'll address the Eyes with his team in the short term, Herman said he would rely on the school's leaders.

"Our leadership, both at a university level and an athletic department level, is working very hard on that," Herman said. "And we'll follow their lead, wherever that takes us."

It would be great if Chip Brown and Herman move on together from Texas. 

[Happy Gilmore 1004]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2020/10/15/college-footballs-biggest-bargain-coastal-carolinas-joe-moglia/5900394002/

Perhaps Urban Meyer will take a formality and only take a $1 in his first year. In that case, don't worry you boys can sit this one out it's on me. 

Edited October 15, 2020 by Happy Gilmore

[NoName 17151]

10 hours ago, hornfromdallas said:

told u glizzy succers 

dont ever doubt carl 

carl info = legit carl never misses 

carl legit woo insider 

what is or was your info?

[LTtxfan 50007]

 

[Rip76 5022]

10 minutes ago, NoName said:

what is or was your info?

Nothing

[UncleBuck 6455]

9 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

 

[TejasPedro 1918]

 

7 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

 

Well hell. That has championship attitude written all over it. Has CDC made his policy clear on our head buttnutt not chewing gum like a 10 year old? Did CDC make his policy clear on having his football team prepared to play our biggest rival? At least we locked down that whole sing-along issue. Please give CDC an extension. No let’s make it a lifetime appointment. 

[Pancho 46325]

Per IT:

- CDC met with team and stated expectations to be on the field for TEOT.  Players will do this, no issues, but no everyone expected to sing. 

- CDC and TH working OT to calm fan base and donors

- Team isn't fractured like people think (Pancho's assessment:  Team is just turrible)

 

[UncleBuck 6455]

2 minutes ago, Pancho said:

CDC and TH working OT to calm fan base and donors

At least they're having to work blasdif;als d;lfkajs;doijf ;waoif

[GTX Horn 1725]

Bobby Burton post a few minutes ago:

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Chip Brown’s article today makes the problem all the more clear.

Tom Herman is the problem. Period.

Based on the words of other Texas coaches, Herman has been willfully insubordinate.

Trying to pin or deflect this dysfunction onto Texas AD Chris Del Conte, President Jay Hartzell, the Texas board of regents or, most importantly, the football players at the University of Texas is nothing more than classic scapegoating because of Herman’s lack of leadership.

Make no mistake, the real losers here are the players, fans and alumni dragged needlessly into this drama primarily because of one man’s shortcomings.

As I have said before, I believe Herman’s lack of leadership is a combination of his own personal hubris - overestimating his own capacity as a coach and thereby his team’s - and part inability to lead in consistently positive fashion.

Substantively, Chip’s piece relied on those willing to speak openly, to go on the record. As we all know, to put their name behind their comments is something too rare in today’s media environment (of which I am clearly party to).

That’s why this version of events is laid bare and is so clear. Herman either neglected to have the conversations that needed to be had with his team, he didn’t see the importance of them or both.

The clarity of it all makes me wonder what the value might be of others to say that such a problem rests with any party other than Herman himself.

Is it a bizarre scheme to preserve as much of Herman’s buyout as possible? Is it an attempt to sow enough discord within the athletic department and university to somehow stymie the possible attempt to lure Urban Meyer?

I can’t answer that.

All I know is that Chip’s reporting matches 100-percent with my own and my sources include members at the highest echelon of the Texas administration and its governing body.

It serves as just more proof for what I have already said. Tom Herman should be fired.

 

[Poe It Up 126]

5 minutes ago, TejasPedro said:

 

Well hell. That has championship attitude written all over it. Has CDC made his policy clear on our head buttnutt not chewing gum like a 10 year old? Did CDC make his policy clear on having his football team prepared to play our biggest rival? At least we locked down that whole sing-along issue. Please give CDC an extension. No let’s make it a lifetime appointment. 

No shit. I bet in his quiet moments CDC is realizing our athletic department is run like Initech. 

 

 

[BrazilHorn 6847]

We cannot let the distraction of drum majors and the players singing/not singing the EOT take our eyes of the fact that Herman has to go.

I can easily see TH licking doorknobs right now to try and catch CV19 so he can claim medical disability the rest of the year and make it impossible to fire him.

Stay focused people - Herman is terrible and has to go

[UncleBuck 6455]

3 minutes ago, BrazilHorn said:

We cannot let the distraction of drum majors and the players singing/not singing the EOT take our eyes of the fact that Herman has to go.

Hell man I agree, on this and further that EOT is a mind-numbing conversation to read through and participate in. I hate it.... but, is this the admin/CDC trying to justify their way out of Tom? By putting Saturday's Sam's Lone Stand all on Herman?

Edited October 15, 2020 by UncleBuck

[ztejas 44227]

14 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Per IT:

- CDC met with team and stated expectations to be on the field for TEOT.  Players will do this, no issues, but no everyone expected to sing. 

- CDC and TH working OT to calm fan base and donors

- Team isn't fractured like people think (Pancho's assessment:  Team is just turrible)

 

What a bunch of pathetic, last ditch bullshit. You fucks already lost to OU. Reading things like this just makes me want to throw up in my mouth.

I mean - I get it from CDC's standpoint. He wants to be REAL sure before he pulls the plug. And it sounds like he's only going to do it at the end of the season. He's just playing damage control right now.

But God what a slap in the face. We're being asked to buy in, AGAIN, even though we've already done that and forgiven Tom like 15 fucking times at this point. 

I'm just done with this assclown show. This is the first time I will quit watching not even halfway through the season. Wake me up when Tom is gone and we can get back to the drawing board. Who knows, we'll probably fuck it up again, but at least there will be some hope involved. 

Oh and on top of all that shit, I'm not really a fan of forcing the players to stand out there for the eyes at this point. You made your fucking bed with that shit, why don't you go lie in it for a bit before you completely reverse course (talking about Tom and CDC).

Edited October 15, 2020 by ztejas

[Nueces River Rat 5796]

15 minutes ago, GTX Horn said:

Bobby Burton post a few minutes ago:

 

Having read this, we need a "Rout 66- Part II" to occur  and fast....  

Here's a refresher for you babies out there from an old fart who walked out of his living room at half ..... and it did what a bad game needs to do to the current clown show too.

https://www.espn.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/2220/mackovic-s-ut-coaching-career-doomed-in-66-3-loss

 

Edited October 15, 2020 by Nueces River Rat

[Bill Lumbergh 7351]

what is or was your info?

He'll let you know as soon as anything substantial is announced that the news he heard is exactly what happened. That's how you'll know he's an inside guy with legit sources.

[texashorn13 228]

Can anyone post the Chip Brown article Bobby is talking about?

[RGBIII 23018]

9 minutes ago, GTX Horn said:

Bobby Burton post a few minutes ago:

 

Bobby has tripled down now...dont usually see that, he has no qualms about burning bridges at this point. Pull the plug CDC

[BabaYaga 15625]

46 minutes ago, UncleBuck said:

It would be great if Chip Brown and Herman move on together from Texas. 

I have a few ideas

[RGBIII 23018]

1 minute ago, texashorn13 said:

Can anyone post the Chip Brown article Bobby is talking about?

its at the top of this page

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2651]

Are our pets heads falling off yet?  

Edited October 15, 2020 by Xian

[RGBIII 23018]

Just now, Xian said:

Are our pet’s heads falling off yet?  

Since 2009 dude, where ya been?

[closetohumping 17818]

12 minutes ago, GTX Horn said:

Bobby Burton post a few minutes ago:

 

Did Bobby ever like Herman?  I know he was a big Mack guy.

[WinningIsHard 4171]

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BobbyBurton

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Chip Brown’s article today makes the problem all the more clear.

Tom Herman is the problem. Period.

Based on the words of other Texas coaches, Herman has been willfully insubordinate.

Trying to pin or deflect this dysfunction onto Texas AD Chris Del Conte, President Jay Hartzell, the Texas board of regents or, most importantly, the football players at the University of Texas is nothing more than classic scapegoating because of Herman’s lack of leadership.

Make no mistake, the real losers here are the players, fans and alumni dragged needlessly into this drama primarily because of one man’s shortcomings.

As I have said before, I believe Herman’s lack of leadership is a combination of his own personal hubris - overestimating his own capacity as a coach and thereby his team’s - and part inability to lead and communicate in a consistently clear and positive fashion.

Substantively, Chip’s piece relied on those willing to speak openly, to go on the record. As we all know, to put their name behind their comments is something too rare in today’s media environment (of which I am clearly party to).

That’s why this version of events is laid bare and is so clear. Herman either neglected to have the conversations that needed to be had with his team, he didn’t see the importance of them, or both.

The clarity of it all makes me wonder what the value might be of others to say that such a problem rests with any party other than Herman himself.

Is it a bizarre scheme to preserve as much of Herman’s buyout as possible? Is it an attempt to sow enough discord within the athletic department and university to somehow stymie the possible attempt to lure Urban Meyer?

I can’t answer that.

All I know is that Chip’s reporting matches 100-percent with my own and my sources include members at the highest echelon of the Texas administration and its governing body.

It serves as just more proof for what I have already said. Tom Herman should be fired.

 

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5 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

 

My bad, double post. I'm regarded 

[BurntOrange&White 41882]

You know it’s bad when chip and Bobby are saying the same thing. 

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It's pretty stunning that Bobby is publicly calling for Herman to be fired.

[GTX Horn 1725]

If Herman is willfully defying Hartzell and CDC with regards to the EOT, it's hard to believe he's still here when you combine that with the performance on the field. Just further illustrates Herman's lack of leadership and complete arrogance thinking Hartzell and CDC's expectations regarding the EOT don't apply to him. I think Herman was banking on the old sports adage that "winning is the best deodorant," but the problem is when you're not winning and woefully underperforming with the best team (on paper at least) that we've had in years, you're going to have egg on your face.

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Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

You know it’s bad when chip and Bobby are saying the same thing. 

Only person that seems to be pouring any kind of water on this dumpster fire is that fat fuck ketch. Anwar is Tom Hermans known mouthpiece at this point...Orangebloods trying to carry that water right now

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This is probably the closest comp I've seen: