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1 minute ago, MrBig said:

Michelle Herman retweeted Courtney Smith shit talking about Zach Smith and Urban a few days ago.

Why is she doing retweeting this now? Does it mean the Urban to Texas talk is really happening?

I would think so.. and before Tom gets axed.. I expect a series of angry tweets scorching the earth from her

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3 hours ago, TrashMaster G said:

Yes, it is another example of misusage of a word being so common that it makes it into the dictionary because dictionary definitions reflect usage, not proper usage. 

And, yeah, I'm a snob about it.  I just think it makes people sound lazy and stupid.

Makes me nauseous when a misuse of a word becomes so common!

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5 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

Also, also the bad guy. Why is it so hard to think two bad people could feed off each other? Less of a shit head is still a shit head. Do we think herman is a good guy just arrogant? 

IDK if he is a good or bad guy but he did help Courtney out of a bad situation right?

 

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2 hours ago, WinningIsHard said:

This is exactly what I was getting at when I posted the Instagram link. Herman used a shitty situation that he was well aware of the entire time to basically get Meyer fired. The idea that he had to worry about his job so he didn’t say anything doesn’t take away that he’s a coward and kind of a shit bag. If he doesn’t say anything at all then I get the point but being a hero later didn’t save that woman any black eyes. I think it might actually be worse to use the situation to look like he cares after the fact. 

You are so woefully and embarrassingly off the mark with this.  Just stop. Take the L and back away from the keyboard.

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3 hours ago, Sir Ulrich said:

In todays Humidor IT said that the silence is a good thing in regards to Urban and that a former HC with ties to UT said it is a possibility. They added that a Big 12 championship may not be enough to save his job. 

Also in what should be a fireable offense neither Herman or Hand has ever reached out to Donald Hawkins to build a relationship. 

Yeah, yeah.. silence is a good thing so lemme just post this here on the webs.

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6 hours ago, NoName said:

Why would literally anyone anywhere trust a single word that comes out of wife abusing asshole's mouth?

Literally, he blames everything bad that has happened to him on Tom and Michelle - he has shown that he will lie about just about anything and everything.

I don't love Tom Herman but as far as we know he is just a narcissistic jerk - not a shitty human who abused his wife then torpedo'd his entire career and is left with nothing but throwing rocks at anyone and everyone who will listen.

Wow, turns out we have something in common with Zach.

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6 hours ago, TrashMaster G said:

Yes, it is another example of misusage of a word being so common that it makes it into the dictionary because dictionary definitions reflect usage, not proper usage. 

And, yeah, I'm a snob about it.  I just think it makes people sound lazy and stupid.

Emerging contronyms leave me nonplussed.

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TEAM

Four players did not practice this week. That includes the brothers Ingram-Dixon, Keondre Coburn, and Jordan Whittington.

Reese Leitao has a broken hand but is playing with a club. There is a bit of optimism regarding him next year playing defensive end with a year to prepare for it. Leitao is a good example of how players can prove to be much more mentally comfortable on one side of the ball than the other.

We’ll have a bigger team portion next week. It’s a bye week and not much to talk about.

SCENARIO 1-3

The decision-makers are pragmatic and understand recruiting is sliding, but they won’t make a decision regarding the future of the head coach position off of that. The thinking is, if the head coach situation is worked out once and for all, recruiting will follow suit.

The AD is still struggling to raise money and that remains an essential point in deciding Tom Herman’s fate. He was brought to Texas to raise money and navigate difficult head coaching situations. Del Conte was brought to Texas for this exact moment and he understands that.

As crazy as it sounds, there is *some* discussion Herman wouldn’t be safe with a Big 12 Championship victory. We think that’s easier to say now, based on how people feel in November, than in December after raising the trophy with a dejected OU onlooking. But it does illustrate the hot water Herman currently finds himself, and if fundraising leading up to that game remains dire, then one of the major issues really isn’t fixed.

A loss to OU, should it occur, and the writing is seemingly on the wall. That would make Herman 1-5 versus the hated rival, with losses occurring on the headsets and in the week of prep as much as on the field.

Donor sources we talk to indicate Del Conte will have the financial support he needs even if the hire isn’t for Scenario #1(Urban Meyer).

We’ll concede Scenario #2 (Herman returning) is more likely than it was after the OU loss, but that isn’t to say it’s likely. That should be expected with the team being on a four-game winning streak. However, the decision-makers do understand the context of the winning streak and are receiving calls after ugly wins the same as after losses.

Everything on the Meyer front is quiet from direct donor and AD sources. We don’t think that’s a bad thing because Del Conte prefers to work in silence to the extent he can. We do know there has been misinformation given from the AD to donors, and high-level donors to mid-level donors. If you have enough sources you’re able to game out what is real and what isn’t.

Misinformation we’ve heard includes: whether a search for a search firm has been conducted (it has, though we don’t know the result), and whether donors are ready to help out financially, i.e., buyouts (they are).

We did hear that one former head coach with ties to UT does believe Urban to Texas is a possibility. We know it is, but it was interesting to hear this person thinks it’s possible too.

To balance that, one of my best agent sources is skeptical Texas can pull off such a move given the climate and cost.

As far as Scenario #3 (a search beyond Meyer), we haven’t heard any names in a while. James Franklin was thought to have a chance very early on, but he’d be a terrible hire and is proving that now.

If a change is to be made, they’re all in on Scenario #1.

RECRUITING MATTERS

Four-star Shadow Creek star LB Terrence Cooks is set to announce his commitment on Saturday at around 3:30 p.m. The Longhorns remain the heavy favorite over Baylor when checking in with multiple sources. Should the 6-foot-2, 210-pound speedy linebacker pick Texas, it will be a combination of football/academics and a close bond with linebackers coach Coleman Hutzler.

The addition of Cooks to Morice Blackwell would give Texas two extremely athletic space linebackers in the class. There is also JACK prospect Derrick Harris Jr. Should the Longhorns offer another linebacker in the class, Arizona verbal K.C. Ossaicould get the nod. The staff is closely monitoring Ossai, and there are some pushing for an offer with others questioning where he would fit in the defensive scheme. The 6-foot-1, 235-pound Ossai plays with excellent eyes, passion, physicality and makes up for lack of forty speed with football IQ and football DNA.

On to some (L)OL recruiting.

Former Texas and NFL offensive lineman Donald Hawkins trains some of the best offensive line prospects in the Dallas/Fort Worth area. That list includes Tommy and James Brockermeyer from time to time, Stanford commit Jack Leyrer and senior riser Austin Uke at Parish Episcopal. The list of younger prospects Hawkins is working with includes the next nationally recruited offensive tackle out of Highland Park — Robert Sweeney. Obviously, when recruiting the Brockermyer brothers, a staff would go through the parents. But there is information to be gained and key relationships to be built and needed with prospects to attain all pertinent information, and that would include a position specific trainer such as Hawkins. In the case of Texas, Hawkins not only trains some of the top offensive line prospects in the D/FW area, but he also played for the Longhorns. That gets to the point of the failures of the Longhorn staff recruiting the position. As of yesterday afternoon, neither Texas head coach Tom Herman nor offensive line coach Herb Hand has called or reached out to Donald Hawkins. Never. Not once. And let’s also add this, Jack Leyrer’s father is also a Texas graduate. So Herman nor Hand has ever reached out to the person that trains multiple targets/offers with parents that are Texas graduates.

Now on to Uke. If there is something that will cause Texas pause in offering Uke, it’s that he’s only a shade over 6-foot-3 without shoes on. Uke, however, has an 80-81-inch wingspan and 10-inch hands with terrific feet, body quickness, and flexibility in his ankles, knees and hips. USC, Florida State, and Penn State are just some of the recent offers with three more Power 5 offers expected in the next week. Texas offensive line coach Herb Hand is scheduled to conduct a virtual visit with Uke on Saturday, and an offer is still possible or likely. Now if Herb Hand was being a thorough recruiter, he would reach out to Hawkins about Uke’s ability to be a quality tackle at 6-3.25 seeing as Hawkins was a 6-4 tackle that excelled at Texas and played in the NFL. Uke’s mom is high on USC right now, pending other offers likely to come.

The Longhorns wisely made an offer to 2021 Bryan Rudder playmaker Keithron Lee this week. Lee is seen by the Texas staff similar to Dajon Harrison in the 2020 class. Wide receiver first, but a player capable of playing cornerback. In the case of Lee, the defensive staff will battle more for Lee assuming he were to pick the Longhorns due to being a longer-armed athlete with more high-point ball skills. Lee’s growing list of offers includes Ole Miss, TCU, Texas Tech, Tennessee, Pittsburgh and SMU.

Inside Texas had him in the top 100 in the summer, but probably still underrated him. IT will see him tonight to get a more thorough understanding of the dynamic playmaker.

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2 hours ago, RGBIII said:

That gets to the point of the failures of the Longhorn staff recruiting the position. As of yesterday afternoon, neither Texas head coach Tom Herman nor offensive line coach Herb Hand has called or reached out to Donald Hawkins. Never. Not once. And let’s also add this, Jack Leyrer’s father is also a Texas graduate. So Herman nor Hand has ever reached out to the person that trains multiple targets/offers with parents that are Texas graduates.

Ok, I get that I’m “fairly new” in terms of my participation to the board/ And maybe it’s the alcohol talking, but are you freaking kidding me? 
I’m blown away by this. I am incredulous. I can not believe that neither Herman nor Hand has reached out to Hawkins. Why the fuck not?

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I literally didn’t need the word “literally” in my post. :/
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12 hours ago, NTVTXN said:

Ok, I get that I’m “fairly new” in terms of my participation to the board/ And maybe it’s the alcohol talking, but are you freaking kidding me? 
I’m blown away by this. I am incredulous. I can not believe that neither Herman nor Hand has reached out to Hawkins. Why the fuck not?

You dont know Tom do you.  He is mensa.  

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53 minutes ago, TexasRenegade said:

Well.....the shine is certainly off both Fleck and Franklin at this point if they were ever seriously in consideration 

Franklin was a non-starter always - Vandy not being quite as rapey, but otherwise too Baylorish.

Fleck? The only thing he had going for him was marrying a stripper, plus the fact that "Row the Boat!" is only marginally ahead of "Ride the Pony!" as a team motto. Definitely no good for surliness.

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They added that a Big 12 championship may not be enough to save his job. 

Some of us have been saying these things for a while now. No $9.95 necessary.


Lol cool fanfic bros. There’s zero chance Texas eats the money and bad optics required to fire Herman after winning the first conference title in 11 years and third in 20. They know how to keep y’all clicking.

However the odds of Texas winning the league are roughly equal to me going in the first round of the NFL draft so the point is moot.
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15 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

 

 


Lol cool fanfic bros. There’s zero chance Texas eats the money and bad optics required to fire Herman after winning the first conference title in 11 years and third in 20. They know how to keep y’all clicking.

However the odds of Texas winning the league are roughly equal to me going in the first round of the NFL draft so the point is moot.

 

 

Ehh, in today's climate I'm sure we can "find" something that makes the choice ok.

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29 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

Lol cool fanfic bros. There’s zero chance Texas eats the money and bad optics required to fire Herman after winning the first conference title in 11 years and third in 20. They know how to keep y’all clicking.

However the odds of Texas winning the league are roughly equal to me going in the first round of the NFL draft so the point is moot.

 

 

OK bro. Can you explain to me the 'bad optics' of firing Herman sans a Big 12 title? That's a long way from being in the bag, esp considering the wildly inconsistent and shittastic performances this team and coach are capable of.

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31 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

Lol cool fanfic bros. There’s zero chance Texas eats the money and bad optics required to fire Herman after winning the first conference title in 11 years and third in 20. They know how to keep y’all clicking.

However the odds of Texas winning the league are roughly equal to me going in the first round of the NFL draft so the point is moot.

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OK bro. Can you explain to me the 'bad optics' of firing Herman sans a Big 12 title? That's a long way from being in the bag, esp considering the wildly inconsistent and shittastic performances this team and coach are capable of.

I mean, I specifically addressed the idea that he’d be fired in the event they won the conference, so I didn’t necessarily imply there were any.

Ponying up tens of millions of dollars for an expensive football coaching change when the university has taken a funding hit, furloughed staff, etc. can reasonably be interpreted as a bad look/misplaced priorities on its own. Yes, I know the AD is financially independent, the buyout could be funded by donors, football money is important to the school, all that. I don’t necessarily feel that way (as rubes on message boards we don’t have the information really needed to form an opinion) but I can see why someone would. There will be those that would take issue with the move regardless of the outcome of this season but I think there’s way less blowback in general if Texas finishes 6-4 or some shit and boosters put up the money.

Going back to what I was actually responding to, doing all that coming off a conference title would really turn up the scrutiny on that decision, and unless you’ve got Urban Meyer lined up I’m not sure what kind of talent you expect to attract to a program that’s been decidedly mediocre for a decade and rewards the first conference title in 11 years with termination.
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29 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Might be interesting watching pedo state vs michigan in a bidding war for Fickell.

If I'm Fickell, I would want the pedo state job rather than wolverine...

I dunno, man. Michigan on name alone can get some great recruits. If UM fires Harbaugh (I think his buyout is outrageous) I think they'll sell their souls again for Fickell. Perfect recruiting ground in Ohio and Pennsylvania. I don't think Pedo will fire Franklin this year, imo. 

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