Tom "the turtle" Herman [Lame Duck or greatest 5d chess player ever?]

[dcar00 14144]

it really sucks the timing didn't work our for us to try to money whip Petersen.  he was always the right answer.   Malzahn would have been nice I think as well.

3 more years of Herman and 7-6,8-5 

[LongestHorn 759]

"Coach Herman, why did we have a delay of game penalty before we took our first snap?"

[Kenny Powers 45]

27 minutes ago, Disco Missile said:

I don't want t ruin the pity party, but I managed to stay sober and here are my thoughts on the game:

- Player for player, we're not better than Maryland. I'll let that sink in, but it should be pretty clear to everyone that watched. Recruiting ratings be damned.

- This was a pretty even game. We lost by giving up big plays in the 1st half and going down 24-7. Then Sam's final terrible interception.

- Our offense is better than last year. O line isn't elite, but it's serviceable. RBs are better. Sam's reads are better. Still pretty mediocre all around.

- Our defense is pretty light through the front 7. We're going to miss Poona this year. Need someone to step up on DL.

- ST is better, even though we can't replace a guy like Dickson.

- Our conditioning was winning the game for us again - like last year - before the 90 minute weather break allowed Maryland to come back refreshed in the 4Q.

- Coaches still making highly questionable decisions. Porter. PORTER. Going away from tempo when it worked so well. Etc.

- I still think we win most of our games this year. All-around we're a better team. It's not a night-and-day difference, just noticeable improvement.

I'll buy it for now....the OL is definitely improved like you said. However, Ehlinger is not the answer. I think that's known by now. I know you didn't address Ehlinger. But with the improved Pass Protection I think Buechle would be better fitted for this offense he's at least a bit mobile and has a better arm than Ehlinger

[Slacks 6819]

Georgia, Bama, Washington, and others have had success recently with true freshman QB's. 

they have good OL

[David Dennison 18837]

I would love to see what crazy ass Mike Leach could do at Texas.

[Kenny Powers 45]

1 minute ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Herman should be fired for putting porter on the field and not giving Ingram who looked like Jamal Charles one fucking Carry in the second half!!!!

This

[TwiceHorn 31431]

4 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

Just like Strong was supposed to be some defensive wizard, till he got depantsed playing against real teams.  Herman's offense was OK at rice, pretty much pure shit at Iowa State, great at tOSU (Urb may have had something to do with that), and decent at UH.  If you watched cougar high games, a ton of their success came from hero ball where Greg Ward made great plays with his feet after the play broke down (sound familiar?).  Have you seen a single play or progression of plays we've run under Herman and said to yourself "well that was a cool concept."  A ton of our "good" plays come from hero ball or jump passes with CJ - just pure athleticism.  I'm starting to think Herman's an offensive fraud.  Maybe he's a good QB coach.  He seems a lot like GDGD.  

Id take GDGD over the assclowns we have run out since Harsin (excepting maybe Norvell and Gilbert) two-times, two-times. 

[bschoolprof 6251]

30 minutes ago, Disco Missile said:

I don't want t ruin the pity party, but I managed to stay sober and here are my thoughts on the game:

- Player for player, we're not better than Maryland. I'll let that sink in, but it should be pretty clear to everyone that watched. Recruiting ratings be damned.

- This was a pretty even game. We lost by giving up big plays in the 1st half and going down 24-7. Then Sam's final terrible interception.

- Our offense is better than last year. O line isn't elite, but it's serviceable. RBs are better. Sam's reads are better. Still pretty mediocre all around.

- Our defense is pretty light through the front 7. We're going to miss Poona this year. Need someone to step up on DL.

- ST is better, even though we can't replace a guy like Dickson.

- Our conditioning was winning the game for us again - like last year - before the 90 minute weather break allowed Maryland to come back refreshed in the 4Q.

- Coaches still making highly questionable decisions. Porter. PORTER. Going away from tempo when it worked so well. Etc.

- I still think we win most of our games this year. All-around we're a better team. It's not a night-and-day difference, just noticeable improvement.

I think we have our first Herman apologist.  Battle lines are being drawn.  

[Kenny Powers 45]

3 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Where do you see the seven wins? I honestly can't find them. 

Of course you can't right now but who honestly thought we'd six after last years drubbing by Maryland. 

[ApocalypseTexas 297]

32 minutes ago, Disco Missile said:

I don't want t ruin the pity party, but I managed to stay sober and here are my thoughts on the game:

- Player for player, we're not better than Maryland. I'll let that sink in, but it should be pretty clear to everyone that watched. Recruiting ratings be damned.

- This was a pretty even game. We lost by giving up big plays in the 1st half and going down 24-7. Then Sam's final terrible interception.

- Our offense is better than last year. O line isn't elite, but it's serviceable. RBs are better. Sam's reads are better. Still pretty mediocre all around.

- Our defense is pretty light through the front 7. We're going to miss Poona this year. Need someone to step up on DL.

- ST is better, even though we can't replace a guy like Dickson.

- Our conditioning was winning the game for us again - like last year - before the 90 minute weather break allowed Maryland to come back refreshed in the 4Q.

- Coaches still making highly questionable decisions. Porter. PORTER. Going away from tempo when it worked so well. Etc.

- I still think we win most of our games this year. All-around we're a better team. It's not a night-and-day difference, just noticeable improvement.

You need to stop watching this shit sober. 

[David Dennison 18837]

Just now, Kenny Powers said:

Of course you can't right now but who honestly thought we'd six after last years drubbing by Maryland. 

The thought of another 6-6 regular season is so depressing.

[phdhorn 6224]

33 minutes ago, Disco Missile said:

- Player for player, we're not better than Maryland. I'll let that sink in, but it should be pretty clear to everyone that watched. Recruiting ratings be damned.

This cannot be repeated too much.  If you think otherwise, you're a crackhead.  Maryland's players are extremely well coached and know their way around a football field.  It fucking took us 22 minutes to begin to get our heads on, then of course we fucked the pooch the last six.  

Athletes, whatever, fuck that.  Maryland for 2 years now, has had better football players on the field.  Amen.

[Domedriver 655]

I no longer believe.  Very amature starts and slow finishes.  He is over his head and not up to the job.

He needs some more tity bar time.  Its where he belongs.  I an off his wagon and riding the drunk train of unhappy Longhorn.

[Kenny Powers 45]

Just now, David Dennison said:

The thought of another 6-6 regular season is so depressing.

Indeed Im getting to the point where I don't give a fuck to even pay attention anymore. 

[bschoolprof 6251]

5 minutes ago, LongestHorn said:

"Coach Herman, why did we have a delay of game penalty before we took our first snap?"

maybe we were honoring their dead player too?

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

44 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Georgia, Bama, Washington, and others have had success recently with true freshman QB's. 

Playing behind really good lines. 

[Dixie Normous 22]

It’s a cultural issue. The arrogance of the place from Belmont to the tower has doomed the football team. If only some of the older people around here could get a good look at what the average student on campus is like these days you would see that we don’t have the mindset to be what Bama is. “Better” education according to the rankings but worse college experience.

[Hefeweizen 5308]

Fuck this season. Glad I didn't buy the season tickets. I'll scalp a couple late once they're cheap.

Watch aggy beat Clemson to make things really fun.

[atomheartbevo 89618]

7 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I would love to see what crazy ass Mike Leach could do at Texas.

Yep.  And he would have had us prepared, rather than taking almost two quarters for us to get our heads on straight.  

[Whatever 700]

I would love to see what crazy ass Mike Leach could do at Texas.

Yes

[Zavala 1384]

11 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Where do you see the seven wins? I honestly can't find them. 

Consider moving to Stillwater or Lubbock.

[MrBig 5367]

Just now, LongestHorn said:

"Coach Herman, why did we have a delay of game penalty before we took our first snap?"

Everyone is spending all of their time "trying to be perfect." This was said many times during post-game interviews.

This raises a lot of red flags. When I hear shit like this, it reminds me of a workplace where everyone is on pins and needles when the boss is around because they are scared of making mistakes. People are just going through the motions.

No real work is being done, no progress is being made, and the only thing that matters is the boss swinging his dick around to create the perception that he is the smartest person in the room and has all of his people in line.

When it comes time to perform, everyone fails miserably.

[suddenly shaggy 929]

13 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Where do you see the seven wins? I honestly can't find them. 

 

2 minutes ago, Zavala said:

Consider moving to Stillwater or Lubbock.

 

OSU, maybe, but no way in hell is Tech winning seven games this year. 

Edited September 1, 2018 by suddenly shaggy

[Bushwood 16]

I should have stayed home and played with myself.

Fuxk the kool-aid they gave us.

[Colonel Mustard 325]

2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Yep.  And he would have had us prepared, rather than taking almost two quarters for us to get our heads on straight.  

And the players wouldnt be thinking about their fat girlfriends. 

[Whatever 700]

maybe we were honoring their dead player too?

I actually thought that's what we were doing until I realized Maryland didnt decline it. Fuck me.

[Zavala 1384]

1 minute ago, suddenly shaggy said:

OSU, maybe, but no way in hell is Tech winning seven games this year. 

You didn't catch my drift. FUCK OFF if you are giving up on Tom Herman right now. Eat shit, and move to some shitty farmland or oil field.

[softlynow 1812]

13 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

Just like Strong was supposed to be some defensive wizard, till he got depantsed playing against real teams.  Herman's offense was OK at rice, pretty much pure shit at Iowa State, great at tOSU (Urb may have had something to do with that), and decent at UH.  If you watched cougar high games, a ton of their success came from hero ball where Greg Ward made great plays with his feet after the play broke down (sound familiar?).  Have you seen a single play or progression of plays we've run under Herman and said to yourself "well that was a cool concept."  A ton of our "good" plays come from hero ball or jump passes with CJ - just pure athleticism.  I'm starting to think Herman's an offensive fraud.  Maybe he's a good QB coach.  He seems a lot like GDGD.  

That’s absurd. GDGD is a titan of the game compared to Tom. And I’m damning GDGD with faint praise here. 

[suddenly shaggy 929]

Just now, Zavala said:

You didn't catch my drift. FUCK OFF if you are giving up on Tom Herman right now. Eat shit, and move to some shitty farmland or oil field.

Your sarcasm detector is broken dude. 

[Fire Jack Chevigny 938]

It truly amazes me that a school like The University of Texas has such a hard time hiring a good football coach.  

This is probably a good time to remind everyone that when the powers that be decided to fire Strong, they did no actual coaching search. They didn’t interview another sole. They just handed the job to the name that happened to be hot at the moment.

[bschoolprof 6251]

1 minute ago, Fire Jack Chevigny said:

This is probably a good time to remind everyone that when the powers that be decided to fire Strong, they did no actual coaching search. They didn’t interview another sole. They just handed the job to the name that happened to be hot at the moment.

True, but the time before we did a national search and engaged a consulting firm.  And we ended up hiring a moron as our coach.  So we've tried search and no search. What's next?

Maybe the problem is our athletic department sucks at hiring coaches, no matter what the process is.  

 

Edited September 1, 2018 by bschoolprof

[LongestHorn 759]

Lets not forget that if not for DKR, Texas hires Gary Barnett from Colorado, not Mack Brown.

[UTGrad98 2271]

2 minutes ago, Fire Jack Chevigny said:

This is probably a good time to remind everyone that when the powers that be decided to fire Strong, they did no actual coaching search. They didn’t interview another sole. They just handed the job to the name that happened to be hot at the moment.

Red approved of the hire. I remember that.

[Newy25 7668]

Playing Kyle Porter at the end is a fireable offense. We better hear that everyone else was injured or I demand a coach to be called to answer for that shit. 

At minimum, Tim Beck needs to be fired. Herman’s failure to fix his staff in the offseason willl be his undoing if he does not address it quickly. 

[David Dennison 18837]

2 minutes ago, LongestHorn said:

Lets not forget that if not for DKR, Texas hires Gary Barnett from Colorado, not Mack Brown.

"I'm shocked. I'm stunned. It's Mack Brown."

[bschoolprof 6251]

Just now, LongestHorn said:

Lets not forget that if not for DKR, Texas hires Gary Barnett from Colorado, not Mack Brown.

Exactly - same point I was making above.  Our athletic department hasn't really made a good football hire since 1957.  Let that sink in for a moment.  

[Kenny Powers 45]

4 minutes ago, LongestHorn said:

Lets not forget that if not for DKR, Texas hires Gary Barnett from Colorado, not Mack Brown.

Somebody phone up a psychic stat and ask DKR again...

[Not a Sock 2311]

11 minutes ago, MrBig said:

Everyone is spending all of their time "trying to be perfect." This was said many times during post-game interviews.

This raises a lot of red flags. When I hear shit like this, it reminds me of a workplace where everyone is on pins and needles when the boss is around because they are scared of making mistakes. People are just going through the motions.

No real work is being done, no progress is being made, and the only thing that matters is the boss swinging his dick around to create the perception that he is the smartest person in the room and has all of his people in line.

When it comes time to perform, everyone fails miserably.

This is scary fuckin accurate.

[David Dennison 18837]

1 minute ago, bschoolprof said:

Exactly - same point I was making above.  Our athletic department hasn't really made a good football hire since 1957.  Let that sink in for a moment.  

Fred Akers was really close to being a great head coach and a Texas legend.

But . . . 

[LongestHorn 759]

And Mackovic won back-to-back conference titles and was a solid recruiter.  Then he just shit the bed in 1997.

[MotownHorn 1759]

I know I'm gonna get flamed but I bet Charlie Strong would have had his team in much better shape if he were still the coach.

[Bobby_Batronic 1994]

1 minute ago, Newy25 said:

Playing Kyle Porter at the end is a fireable offense. We better hear that everyone else was injured or I demand a coach to be called to answer for that shit. 

At minimum, Tim Beck needs to be fired. Herman’s failure to fix his staff in the offseason willl be his undoing if he does not address it quickly. 

Herman was doomed the minute he hired his B team offensive staff of UH lackeys and a Gene Chizik's long lost brother to be OC.  This shit is going to go down just like Charlie's tenure did. Herman might squeeze out another year by staying an eyelash above .500 for his tenure, but the first rule of being hired at a blue blood institution handing out blank checks is to surround yourself with rockstars and not yes men.  

[Colonel Mustard 325]

Just now, Newy25 said:

Playing Kyle Porter at the end is a fireable offense. We better hear that everyone else was injured or I demand a coach to be called to answer for that shit. 

At minimum, Tim Beck needs to be fired. Herman’s failure to fix his staff in the offseason willl be his undoing if he does not address it quickly. 

Played it safe/scared with Porter who has good ball security, instead of one of the other RBs who could have gotten you more yardage on those passes..

 

So basically if you can cause one of our better RBs to fumbled not only do you get the ball but we will voluntarily take him off the field for the rest of the game and put in Porter to prove a point. We must not allow the chance for redemption. 

[X-Wing @Aliciousness 103]

Guys... not just ANYBODY can walk into somewhere close to Maryland's actual campus and beat the Terrapins, head coach on the sideline or not.

What a fucking joke.  Tom the fraud.

[TheAuditor 1035]

13 minutes ago, Zavala said:

You didn't catch my drift. FUCK OFF if you are giving up on Tom Herman right now. Eat shit, and move to some shitty farmland or oil field.

Lighten up Francis.  who voted you class president?  

[Zavala 1384]

2 minutes ago, Colonel Mustard said:

Played it safe/scared with Porter who has good ball security, instead of one of the other RBs who could have gotten you more yardage on those passes..

 

So basically if you can cause one of our better RBs to fumbled not only do you get the ball but we will voluntarily take him off the field for the rest of the game and put in Porter to prove a point. We must not allow the chance for redemption. 

His ball security is so good, ge dropped a wide open pass before the next game-ending play.

[David Dennison 18837]

Fuck Tom Herman and Charlie Strong for making me miss Mack Brown.

God damn it!

[dcar00 14144]

2 minutes ago, MotownHorn said:

I know I'm gonna get flamed but I bet Charlie Strong would have had his team in much better shape if he were still the coach.

not a chance but the issue is it probably wouldn't have been worse with Charlie.   different things would be wrong.

[tbone_ 14105]

Yea Charlie was going nowhere good with this team.

So far, Herman hasn’t either.

[Zavala 1384]

2 minutes ago, TheAuditor said:

Lighten up Francis.  who voted you class president?  

Just piss off and root for the Texans or something. You didn't graduate from Texas, so just fuck off and root for another team with a bull logo. Chicago Bulls basketball may be your thing.