Dallas Cowboys 2018 Regular Season Thread

[DougO 5251]

Looking at the snap counts at Pro Football Ref it's a bit interesting to see that after Dak and the O-line playing 100% and then Zeke 92%, Swaim was in on 90% of the Cowboys offensive snaps. Next highest number was in the 60s percentage. Jarwin lined up a little over a third of the time. Swaim also played in 50% of special teams snaps, Jarwin four more plays for 68%.

Gallup ranked 4th among the receivers at 45% of offensive snaps after Beasley, Hurns and Thompson. Surprisingly, Terrance Williams played less than 30% of offensive snaps.

Edited September 15, 2018 by DougO

[DougO 5251]

Taco Charlton tied with Antwan Woods for the most snaps among defensive linemen. That's a bit unexpected. Only the four starting DBs and two LBs played more snaps.

[Mileslong 4728]

Wonder why he was only half determined and working half as hard prior to this point?  Seems lazy and unmotivated 

Dak was only giving 100% before, now he’s giving 110%

[SurlyBDR 22808]

So does Jerrah sign him Monday or Tuesday, even if he relapsed? 

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/browns-to-release-wr-josh-gordon

[A’Dam Psycho 1470]

I swear if the Cowboys don’t at least make him say no, I’m hella done

[Vic Mackey 47089]

I read he injured his hamstring Friday night in a non football event. He was already ruled out for tomorrow's game. Not sure what the reason why they released him. I think you kick the tires if it isn't drug related.

[Patrick Bateman 3917]

 

[SurlyBDR 22808]

Did their homework, and concluded that a threat to blow the top off of any defense is absolutely not worth it. Josh Gordon with a hamstring injury can outrun any receiver they currently have. 

[Vic Mackey 47089]

Now reading that the Browns suspected Gordon showed up high to the facility today. Coupled with a hamstring injury in a non football event might have been enough for them to move on.

But I think he will be traded. Teams are already calling them. Wonder what it would take to get him? Can't see it being much.

[cmontexas 3272]

Yeah fuck it lets just bring in another dude that comes in fucked up and will absolutely disappear or get himself ineligble when we need him

[Sgt Hulk 13793]

Dude said he wants to come here. I didn’t even think he was still alive. 

[Vic Mackey 47089]

 

[Patrick Bateman 3917]

I mean who needs a 1600 yard guy..... we got Brice Butler back!!!!  Wonder who's getting the axe?

 

[cmontexas 3272]

Need to get rid of Garrett and get Lincoln Riley in here. Young offensive coaches in their 30s that grew up playing Madden are the future. And the longer he stays in Norman the odds increase of his reputation getting Briles'd

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Is Miles Austin still available?

[Fire Jack Chevigny 938]

Is Miles Austin still available?

Miles is, but his hamstrings aren’t.

[Vic Mackey 47089]

1 hour ago, Patrick Bateman said:

I mean who needs a 1600 yard guy..... we got Brice Butler back!!!!  Wonder who's getting the axe?

 

To be fair, his 1600 yard season was 5 years ago. Which is ancient history in the NFL. Plus, do we really need another guy in here you can't count on? We have plenty of those.

When healthy and not suspended, he's one of the best talents at WR in this league. Thing is, he's never on the field and you cant count on him. I can't really fault them for this after dealing with Gregory and Irving.

[DougO 5251]

Winning is better than losing.

Hard to say what this indicates against the 'Ginas, who seem shitty, but played tough against a good Jax team last week. Probably something like "it's an 8-8 league."

I will allow it.

 

[DougO 5251]

Good run D vs Barkely, though. Even of the 'Ginas O-line is crap.

[DougO 5251]

12 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

 

 

That makes Gordon infinitely more relevant than assmunch hack Dumb-Jock Taylor over the same period.

[DougO 5251]

Gotta wonder if the Cowboys are about to dump TW or maybe even Hurns, who have barely seen the field. Thompson seems like their most consistent receiver at this point, and they cut him just two weeks ago.

[Catdaddyhorn 3446]

On 9/15/2018 at 10:23 PM, Patrick Bateman said:

 

How often is this guy right? I know he puts a lot out on twitter so it's hard to keep count, but my sense is he misses wayyy more than he hits. Especially for a guy who's supposed to have a working relationship with the team 

[Catdaddyhorn 3446]

Gotta wonder if the Cowboys are about to dump TW or maybe even Hurns, who have barely seen the field. Thompson seems like their most consistent receiver at this point, and they cut him just two weeks ago.

Hurns had the 2nd most snaps among our WRs in week 1.

 

[Vic Mackey 47089]

39 minutes ago, DougO said:

 

That makes Gordon infinitely more relevant than assmunch hack Dumb-Jock Taylor over the same period.

I mean but he's right. People have this image of Gordon from years ago. But you can't depend on him at all anymore. I don't think we want to bring in another one of those guys.

[Patrick Bateman 3917]

45 minutes ago, DougO said:

Winning is better than losing.

Hard to say what this indicates against the 'Ginas, who seem shitty, but played tough against a good Jax team last week. Probably something like "it's an 8-8 league."

I will allow it.

 

Their defense is solid but yea, that offense is a hot mess right now.  A confused OL who should be better based on personnel.  An old QB who is a bit sketchy in the pocket when it comes to the rush now.  Eli actually had a 98.6 QB rating but he was a checkdown Charlie all night.  They have excellent weapons, shit way better weapons than we have but their line and QB make it tough to be consistent.  I'm really happy for the win but not sure this was some sort of statement game.  We get the seachickens next week.  They have similar issues on the OL, maybe worse, and their secondary actually is rather porous but @ the Pac NW has always been a tough place to travel too.....

 

[Patrick Bateman 3917]

33 minutes ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

How often is this guy right? I know he puts a lot out on twitter so it's hard to keep count, but my sense is he misses wayyy more than he hits. Especially for a guy who's supposed to have a working relationship with the team 

It's not just him.... multiple beat writers have been told the same thing.  We have no interest in Gordon.  And I get it, we have enough idiots on this team.... but signing Brice Butler is hilarious.  I mean, who fucking cares, guy is a JAG who's already been cut from his UFA deal.

[Patrick Bateman 3917]

This would create dead money for us..... not an economic decision.

[DougO 5251]

Trade Williams for Josh Gordon. Nothin' to lose.

[DougO 5251]

10 hours ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

Hurns had the 2nd most snaps among our WRs in week 1.

 

Yeah, but he's just a rotation guy. Gallup's snaps went up, Hurns snaps went down, the three guys past Beasley are playing about the same amount of time. Not a good trend for a free agent signing that was tabbed their number one guy. The salary hit makes him tough to cut, though, much like Williams. It's not a great situation when the two guys the team is paying decent guaranteed money are getting put on the back burner and barely producing anything. They don't even get special teams play out of them. They would probably jump at a trade offer.

Edited September 17, 2018 by DougO

[Vic Mackey 47089]

I'm hearing on The Fan that TWill is having his situation reviewed by the league from that incident in Frisco a few months ago. He could still face a suspension. If he does, I think Dallas could have a way out and release him without being on the hook for his guarantee money. That's how Brice Butler could replace. And I would not hate that. Twill is non existent and was hardly on the field.

[Patrick Bateman 3917]

This is sourced so probably better to go off of..... I could see a TE being IR'd, maybe Schultz.

 

Edited September 17, 2018 by Patrick Bateman

[C-Man 27234]

12 hours ago, DougO said:

Gotta wonder if the Cowboys are about to dump TW or maybe even Hurns, who have barely seen the field. Thompson seems like their most consistent receiver at this point, and they cut him just two weeks ago.

David Moore said this very thing on the Musers this morning. He thinks Terrence might be about to get cut.

 

Edited September 17, 2018 by C-Man
Oops, this is what I get for not reading all the way to the end. Moore said on Musers he thought Williams could be cut.

[C-Man 27234]

Oh, and I'd *still* like to see the Cowboys flip a pick for Earl Thomas. Fuck, the thought of him playing in the back of this group of guys is borderline orgasmic.

[Vic Mackey 47089]

[EvilCaseMcCoy 691]

30 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Rush must be continuing to suck. 

[Patrick Bateman 3917]

Well, at least one Cowboy (former) is gonna be in the playoffs!!!!

 

[kevwun 15806]

Knew the Vikings kicker was getting cut after he missed the field goal in overtime.  He had a bad day, but that one sealed his fate.

Edited September 17, 2018 by kevwun

[SizzleChest 8284]

13 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

It's not just him.... multiple beat writers have been told the same thing.  We have no interest in Gordon.  And I get it, we have enough idiots on this team.... but signing Brice Butler is hilarious.  I mean, who fucking cares, guy is a JAG who's already been cut from his UFA deal.

Gordon is Manziel.  With Gregory, Irving, Gathers, and Twill, how many head cases can you have?  Yes, I realize this is the Cowboys, but it's obvious they're saying no mas.

And obviously Twill will get dropped when the NFL comes calling with his suspension.

The receivers are an issue, but the OL is the bigger concern.

[Patrick Bateman 3917]

16 minutes ago, SizzleChest said:

Gordon is Manziel.  With Gregory, Irving, Gathers, and Twill, how many head cases can you have?  Yes, I realize this is the Cowboys, but it's obvious they're saying no mas.

And obviously Twill will get dropped when the NFL comes calling with his suspension.

The receivers are an issue, but the OL is the bigger concern.

Depth on the OL is an issue..... but our WR corp as a grouping are probably bottom 5 in the league.  When you throw TEs in there for receiving, probably bottom 3.  We're still 28th in the league in passing (Seattle and Chicago will most likely pass us after tonight, so really 30th) yards.  Have 1 passing TD.  27th in Y/A and NY/A.  28th in EXP (expected points contributed) in passing.  

Dak played much better than week 1 and I think ran the ball very well and managed the game well but our passing offense still is in the toilet.  Last night, the last 21 passes for Dak averaged 2.9 YPA.  That's fucking terrible.  We didn't need to air it out last night and it's very, very early, but our offense is still poor by the eye test and advanced metrics.  Brice Butler is not going to save us....

We still have a long way to go in the passing game..... Hopefully we can get there.

Yep.... 

 

Edited September 17, 2018 by Patrick Bateman

[Junior Miller 1502]

How the hell could anyone who is an actual fan of this team want them to bring in Gordon? A team who drafted him and has stuck by him for years of trouble,  a team that has won 1 game in the last 34, said goodbye to him. If he comes here most likely he just gets Gregory toking it up all the time again. 

That one red zone play that should have been a TD showed what we Rico fans have been saying all along. Lined him up on the line outside of RT and got a DE running with him up the field. Easily shook that DE and was wide open for a TD if Dak just puts the ball anywhere near the guy. That's the match-up exploitation that he brings. 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33876]

14 hours ago, DougO said:

Winning is better than losing.

Hard to say what this indicates against the 'Ginas, who seem shitty, but played tough against a good Jax team last week. Probably something like "it's an 8-7-1 league."

I will allow it.

 

FIFY

[Vic Mackey 47089]

Looks like the Pats are close to getting a deal done to land Josh Gordon in a trade. Curious to see what they will give up for him.

[DougO 5251]

I don't have a problem with overtime ties like other people do. If you cant' score in 10 minutes, fuck both teams.

[Mo Horn 8852]

1 hour ago, Vic Mackey said:

Looks like the Pats are close to getting a deal done to land Josh Gordon in a trade. Curious to see what they will give up for him.

Knowing the Pats, an out of date can of Spam. They get everybody for nothing. 

[LurkingHorn 1066]

4 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

This is sourced so probably better to go off of..... I could see a TE being IR'd, maybe Schultz.

 

At this point, I really don't care which TE is, but 1 of them needs to be off the roster. Too many spots tied up with spare players IMO. 

[Vic Mackey 47089]

Knowing the Pats, an out of date can of Spam. They get everybody for nothing. 

5th rd pick. And if he's not active for 10 games, they get to wash their hands and get the pick back.

[Machinator 32099]

 

 

[Trey3216 15349]

2 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

4 hours ago, Mo Horn said:

Knowing the Pats, an out of date can of Spam. They get everybody for nothing. 

5th rd pick. And if he's not active for 10 games, they get to wash their hands and get the pick back.

I think they get to keep Gordon and get a later round pick (6 or 7) back if he’s not active 10 games (that is if his contract runs more than this year, which I can’t remember) 

[Post Oak 20251]

Hellman on Cowboys Break today said that in the last 5 games Dallas has given up 60 points 

[Vic Mackey 47089]

This defense should feast on this shitty Seattle OL next week.