Dallas Cowboys 2018 Regular Season Thread

[Patrick Bateman 3903]

5 minutes ago, cmontexas said:

Eagles are only a half game out of that wild card, so the ended their season talk might have been premature.

I'd still rather play them than the Vikings or Panthers. The Cowboys never beat the fucking Vikings, Cousins or no Cousins. Same with the Panthers

Good chance we're the 4 seed and run it back with Seattle at our house this time

Huh?  What are you trying to say about the Vikings?  Or the Panthers?

 

[cmontexas 3250]

That neither should scare us based on how they look right now. We've beaten Cousins plenty of times and Cam looks not right.

Both teams have stout defenses though, specifically up front and will be able to keep things close. And with our history against those two franchises it just, in popular butterteeth parlance, scares you to death

[Catdaddyhorn 3444]

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

You’ve got cooper talking about running too many slants and 9s, and here you are saying there’s too many long developing routes. 

You mean slants and stops. 9 is what he changed the route to. 

[cmontexas 3250]

I think we matchup better with offensive minded teams better than against another defensive team

[futureman 22414]

1 hour ago, Vic Mackey said:

Haven't you heard? He wants Mike White to start. The guy who can't even beat out Cooper Rush.
 

just eat your crow when the time comes.  you’re an honorable man, Vic.  I know that you will. 

[futureman 22414]

1 hour ago, Vic Mackey said:

You would rather this team lose than win with Dak.

haha well, honorable if not a bit of a dumbass. 

[futureman 22414]

1 hour ago, immortal13 said:

Oh you mean Amari Cooper, that top level receiver they finally got for Dak to throw to? Yeah sometimes that helps for a quarterback to have a guy like that. 

See that wasn't even an apology

yeah, it was.  dak would be better if only he had a top 5 receiver to throw to because his top 1 elite RB that carries his ass all over the field isn’t carrying quite enough of the load.  

please. 

just eat your crow when white is starting. 

[immortal13 4059]

15 minutes ago, futureman said:

yeah, it was.  dak would be better if only he had a top 5 receiver to throw to because his top 1 elite RB that carries his ass all over the field isn’t carrying quite enough of the load.  

please. 

just eat your crow when white is starting. 

Eat crow for what? You're the dumbass suggesting that Dak will or should be cut. First of all, it's regarded to think he will be cut, and who would we go and get if we did? Fucking dumbass

I'm assuming you're joking about White. There's no possible way you could be serious.

Edited December 11, 2018 by immortal13

[Junior Miller 1502]

2 hours ago, futureman said:

you dak apologists will destroy this franchise.  hope you’re happy with 8-8.  

Yep, 8-8 every year sure does equal 30-15 over 2 3/4 seasons. 

Edited December 11, 2018 by Junior Miller

[Junior Miller 1502]

1 hour ago, immortal13 said:

Oh you mean Amari Cooper, that top level receiver they finally got for Dak to throw to? Yeah sometimes that helps for a quarterback to have a guy like that. 

See that wasn't even an apology

Cooper in 6 games is on a 16 game pace for 1800 yds and 16 TDs with Dak as his QB. That first game against Tennessee Cooper did almost nothing so almost all of his numbers are in 5 games. 

Dak and the offense have been absolute shit in the red zone and that's why people think he sucks. If they can improve that their offense should look better. 

[futureman 22414]

1 hour ago, immortal13 said:

I'm assuming you're joking about White. There's no possible way you could be serious.

I’m not joking.  he’s 6’4” with a rifle on his right shoulder and yet his favorite pass to throw is the screen.  he loves the screen game.  he excels at it.  and he can put the ball anywhere he wants all over the field.  he would destroy the NFL with zeke in the backfield.   

when he is named the backup at the start of 2019 you’ll adjust yourself in your seat, start to grumble a little, “surely this must be some kind of crazy mistake” but no it’s not a mistake.  and then, when dak inevitably farts his way to a 2-3 start after tanking in the wild card the previous year mike white will enter the game.  he is going to start and it’s going to save the franchise because we’ll be able to sign everyone we need to establish a true dynasty in the salary cap era with mike white on a 5th round rookie deal.  and then you’ll eat crow for it.  in about a year.

bookmark this post.  

[Trey3216 15325]

6 hours ago, futureman said:

just eat your crow when the time comes.  you’re an honorable man, Vic.  I know that you will. 

Must be tough to have to eat it every fucking week rather than hold out and puff your chest when the opppsite of normal occurs.  

[TornACL 7675]

1 minute ago, Trey3216 said:

Must be tough to have to eat it every fucking week rather than hold out and puff your chest when the opppsite of normal occurs.  

I'll tell you one thing, it's definitely tough to read Futureman's endless series of failed bits on this site. 

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

Mike White sucks

[Horn80 6075]

Didn’t realize Dak was 30-15.  That’s dam good.  

[Post Oak 20183]

7 minutes ago, Horn80 said:

Didn’t realize Dak was 30-15.  That’s dam good.  

If you compare him to the league at large he's pretty good

['stache 21761]

Who the fuck is Mike White and why does this dude want to fuck him so bad?

[Irish Wrist Watch 1349]

9 hours ago, cmontexas said:

Eagles are only a half game out of that wild card, so the ended their season talk might have been premature.

I'd still rather play them than the Vikings or Panthers. The Cowboys never beat the fucking Vikings, Cousins or no Cousins. Same with the Panthers

Good chance we're the 4 seed and run it back with Seattle at our house this time

The Vikings were absolute shit last night. Dallas might get complacent against the Eagles. With Clement out, I think they're toast anyhow. But they know too much about us, and their coaches aren't idiots.

[Irish Wrist Watch 1349]

10 hours ago, Post Oak said:

 

I don't think this talk about Dak being a pretty good QB is going away. Unless he asks for the moon, the Cowboys will resign him.  How much they are willing to give him will depend a lot on how he performs in the next few weeks. White isn't my first choice to replace, but I've seen his highlights and he looks serviceable with a good team around him.

How bout Nick Foles? He's going to free agency, I believe.

[Drew 2331]

Man when Vic is calling our future man for his horrible Dak/Mike White takes its time to Hang it up.

BTW an competent OC who will use Daks strengths is the only thing they’re missing. Just accept JG will be here forever and that’s fine, as pointed out above, as long as his Coordinators are really good.

BTW I know people still thing they’re running Garrett’s offense but I’m not sure. I think they’re using his philosophy of the old 90s team...but remember when he was calling play they threw it around 65% of the time or more, and that’s with Demarco Murray on the team. Linehan adopted the ground and pound that was so effective early on. He just hasn’t changed it or thrown any wrinkles on it in 4 years. I think it gets laid at Garrett’s feet for not telling him to change it up however.

They just need a more creative guy who isn’t so predictable. The defense knows when they’re running it. And exactly what routes they’re running when they not Handing it to Zeke. It shouldn’t be that easy.

[Junior Miller 1502]

It's almost guaranteed after last night's game that we're getting Seattle at home in the WC game. Seattle is almost locked in to that 5 slot unless they lose out and a shit team like Vikings/Panthers/eagles win out. Cowboys are a game behind bears with 3 to play so they could pass them for the 3 spot but the bears dont look like they're losing 2 of 3 and the cowboys would have to win out (I believe Bears would hold tie breaker on conference record but not sure depending on which games they lose)

 

I would much rather play the Vikings than Seattle. Cousins is a stats QB who can't beat any team with a winning record. He's the anti-Dak. All stats and no clutch.

[immortal13 4059]

1 hour ago, 'stache said:

Who the fuck is Mike White and why does this dude want to fuck him so bad?

Son of Danny?

[EvilCaseMcCoy 691]

3 hours ago, 'stache said:

Who the fuck is Mike White and why does this dude want to fuck him so bad?

You guys should listen to Futureman because hes like been to the future... man.

[futureman 22414]

4 hours ago, Horn80 said:

Didn’t realize Dak was 30-15.  That’s dam good.  

trent dilfer good?  dilfer has a ring. 

[Horn80 6075]

3 minutes ago, futureman said:

trent dilfer good?  dilfer has a ring. 

As I recall,  Dilfer just “managed” the game and didn’t screw it up.  Got to give him credit for doing that.

 

[Patrick Bateman 3903]

Dilfer was 58-55 as a starter.  He won a ring because he played with one of the top 3 defenses of all-time.  He had a 76.6 passer rating and had a 12-11 TD/INT ratio that year.  Tony Banks started half that season.

That's a silly comparison.

Edited December 11, 2018 by Patrick Bateman

[Horn80 6075]

2 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Dilfer was 58-55 as a starter.  He won a ring because he played with one of the top 3 defenses of all-time.  He had a 76.6 passer rating and had a 12-11 TD/INT ratio that year.  Tony Banks started half that season.

That's a silly comparison.

58-55 is the definition of mediocre.

[futureman 22414]

3 minutes ago, Horn80 said:

As I recall,  Dilfer just “managed” the game and didn’t screw it up.  Got to give him credit for doing that.

is that what you people want?  a huge contract that prevents building the roster for an average quarterback with below average talent who is capable of managing games and not screwing things up most of the time and needs the help of an all-time great defense led by two of the all-time greats at their position to “manage” his team to a super bowl win.  y’all wanna roll the dice on that?  ok.  I think we should get someone who can actually throw the damn ball and let this offense realize the potential of it’s incredible young talent  but that seems to be a crazy opinion.  maybe we can win the super bowl 13-10!

[Horn80 6075]

2 minutes ago, futureman said:

is that what you people want?  a huge contract that prevents building the roster for an average quarterback with below average talent who is capable of managing games and not screwing things up most of the time and needs the help of an all-time great defense led by two of the all-time greats at their position to “manage” his team to a super bowl win.  y’all wanna roll the dice on that?  ok.  I think we should get someone who can actually throw the damn ball and let this offense realize the potential of it’s incredible young talent  but that seems to be a crazy opinion.  maybe we can win the super bowl 13-10!

Well, Dallas did lose once in SB 13-10 so you may be onto something.

[GRHorn 105]

Dak puts a ceiling on this team period. Gotta hope for nick Foles like run this year, because when Dak gets extended for 20-30M per year he’s not gonna be good enough to make up for materially worse team. 

[justinjc7 153]

If you don't think Dak is the guy, fine, I still think he can be as good as we need him to be with some more work, but I can understand the arguments against him.  But this whole Mike White fanboy crush you have is just weird as hell.  That's a strange hill to die on.  Barring an injury or two, that dude is not stepping on the field.  

[Post Oak 20183]

1 hour ago, futureman said:

trent dilfer good?  dilfer has a ring. 

Don't die on this hill

[SurlyBDR 22644]

 

[Patrick Bateman 3903]

 

 

[Irish Wrist Watch 1349]

4 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

 

 

Looks like this Romo was a great quarterback argument isn't going away.

I'd take Dak over Romo any day. Romo was too slow, got hurt too easily and threw too many interceptions.

[Trey3216 15325]

12 hours ago, futureman said:

I’m not joking.  he’s 6’4” with a rifle on his right shoulder and yet his favorite pass to throw is the screen.  he loves the screen game.  he excels at it.  and he can put the ball anywhere he wants all over the field.  he would destroy the NFL with zeke in the backfield.   

when he is named the backup at the start of 2019 you’ll adjust yourself in your seat, start to grumble a little, “surely this must be some kind of crazy mistake” but no it’s not a mistake.  and then, when dak inevitably farts his way to a 2-3 start after tanking in the wild card the previous year mike white will enter the game.  he is going to start and it’s going to save the franchise because we’ll be able to sign everyone we need to establish a true dynasty in the salary cap era with mike white on a 5th round rookie deal.  and then you’ll eat crow for it.  in about a year.

bookmark this post.  

 

[futureman 22414]

23 minutes ago, Irish Wrist Watch said:

I'd take Dak over Romo any day. Romo was too slow, got hurt too easily and threw too many interceptions.

this is so awesome. 

[Junior Miller 1502]

futureman is a troll but there are actual retarded cowboys fans who want them to cut Dak. It's insane how someone can spend so much time and energy following something and know almost nothing about it. 

[futureman 22414]

28 minutes ago, Junior Miller said:

 It's insane how someone can spend so much time and energy following something and know almost nothing about it. 

self-deprecation won’t get you anywhere around here. 

[Junior Miller 1502]

But it got me deep inside your mom

[GRHorn 105]

1 hour ago, Irish Wrist Watch said:

Looks like this Romo was a great quarterback argument isn't going away.

I'd take Dak over Romo any day. Romo was too slow, got hurt too easily and threw too many interceptions.

Hoo boy this is terrible take. 99/100 GMs, head coaches, coordinators would disagree with you, I bet. 

In that vein, does anybody here listen to the Doomsday Podcast? It’s entertaining, has Moseley and Ed Werder. I’m paraphrasing but, after this last game Werder says he’s spoken to multiple defensive coordinators around the league and every single one says basically Dak is the reason their season will end. He’s an average QB that scares no one. His best trait still is running the ball. 

Edited December 11, 2018 by GRHorn

[justinjc7 153]

Dak over Romo?! And "any day" on top of that? Jesus, the terrible takes really do run rampant in this thread, don't they?  Dak has shown flashes here and there but like GRHorn said, he's an average game manager, he can't take over the game with his arm in the way Romo could.  Linehan has plenty of blame as well but he's not the only reason our offense looks so stagnant for long stretches so often.  I said earlier in this thread that Dak can be as good as we need him to be with some work (see Alex Smith going to a fairly recent Super Bowl) but I'd much rather have a healthy Romo actually moving the ball down the field

[Hate 20103]

Alex Smith went to the Super Bowl as a backup.

[chase25 2048]

3 hours ago, futureman said:

is that what you people want?  a huge contract that prevents building the roster for an average quarterback with below average talent who is capable of managing games and not screwing things up most of the time and needs the help of an all-time great defense led by two of the all-time greats at their position to “manage” his team to a super bowl win.  y’all wanna roll the dice on that?  ok.  I think we should get someone who can actually throw the damn ball and let this offense realize the potential of it’s incredible young talent  but that seems to be a crazy opinion.  maybe we can win the super bowl 13-10!

Damn, if we would have just had Mike White for the last 21 years, Dallas would have 26 Super Bowls

[justinjc7 153]

2 minutes ago, Hate said:

Alex Smith went to the Super Bowl as a backup.

Very well aware of that, not sure who the hell I was thinking of, long day.  Crawling back to my hole now 

[Catdaddyhorn 3444]

Cooper in 6 games is on a 16 game pace for 1800 yds and 16 TDs with Dak as his QB. That first game against Tennessee Cooper did almost nothing so almost all of his numbers are in 5 games. 
Dak and the offense have been absolute shit in the red zone and that's why people think he sucks. If they can improve that their offense should look better. 

The redzone is one place where this team really misses Witten and Dez. Losing those options has severely limited us from the 15 yard line on in.

[Junior Miller 1502]

48 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

Hoo boy this is terrible take. 99/100 GMs, head coaches, coordinators would disagree with you, I bet. 

In that vein, does anybody here listen to the Doomsday Podcast? It’s entertaining, has Moseley and Ed Werder. I’m paraphrasing but, after this last game Werder says he’s spoken to multiple defensive coordinators around the league and every single one says basically Dak is the reason their season will end. He’s an average QB that scares no one. His best trait still is running the ball. 

Those defensive coordinators must not be from any team the cowboys play because their horrible red zone offense, horribly predicatable game planning and calling, and below par offensive line (due to multiple injuries) will be what derails them. 

Dak played a damn good game in his only playoff game and got the go ahead score to win with less than 2 minutes left. His defense then went and lost the game. If that's an indication of what he does when playoff pressure is on then cowboys have as good a shot as anyone with their top 5 defense this season. 

The problem with Romo was "win or go home" pressure did him in. He couldn't raise his game in it. Early returns show Dak may be able to do what Romo couldn't but we'll need more games under that pressure to find out for sure. 

[Junior Miller 1502]

53 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

Hoo boy this is terrible take. 99/100 GMs, head coaches, coordinators would disagree with you, I bet. 

In that vein, does anybody here listen to the Doomsday Podcast? It’s entertaining, has Moseley and Ed Werder. I’m paraphrasing but, after this last game Werder says he’s spoken to multiple defensive coordinators around the league and every single one says basically Dak is the reason their season will end. He’s an average QB that scares no one. His best trait still is running the ball. 

Double post

Edited December 11, 2018 by Junior Miller

[chase25 2048]

48 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

Hoo boy this is terrible take. 99/100 GMs, head coaches, coordinators would disagree with you, I bet. 

In that vein, does anybody here listen to the Doomsday Podcast? It’s entertaining, has Moseley and Ed Werder. I’m paraphrasing but, after this last game Werder says he’s spoken to multiple defensive coordinators around the league and every single one says basically Dak is the reason their season will end. He’s an average QB that scares no one. His best trait still is running the ball. 

In our lifetime we have watched Rex Grossman play in a Super Bowl, Blake Bortles play in an AFC championship game, Nick Foles out duel Tom Brady for a ring, Ben Roethlisberger win a Super Bowl going 9/21 for 123 yards and 2 INTs, Trent Dilfer win a ring, and Brad Johnson win a Super Bowl.

Based on what Dak has shown, he is more than capable of taking this team to a championship.

[Mileslong 4712]

Don't die on this hill

Agree, much better places that that...