On the Mensa train or not?

[Zavala 1384]

Why did you choose your answer?

[RandomIdoit 655]

He's going to get another year unless we win less than 6.

[David Dennison 18662]

I voted no because nothing I've seen from him as a head coach at Houston or Texas indicates that he has what it takes to coach a team to a national championship.

[RowdyVic 106]

Based on what I have seen so far and his record at Houston vs shitty teams. It doesn't seem like he knows how to motivate players. Or at least not consistently.

[FriendofaFriend 93]

he is an over rated POS and is even less qualified than our last pathetic excuse for a coach. 

[Radical Larry 28529]

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do more look like?

 

[F250 28705]

3 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I voted no because nothing I've seen from him as a head coach at Houston or Texas indicates that he has what it takes to coach a team to a national championship.

This. The dude shows no signs of being a championship caliber coach. He actually shows signs of being a subpar coach.

[TriStone 1724]

17 minutes ago, Zavala said:

Why did you choose your answer?

I chose option 4 because it was the least retarded choice.

[MrPhlegm 3413]

Eggplant 

 

MESA

[hookem48 4632]

if that dumbass Charlie Strong got 3 years anyone hired should get 3 years.

[softlynow 1786]

2 minutes ago, hookem48 said:

if that dumbass Charlie Strong got 3 years anyone hired should get 3 years.

Why are people so set on answering a different question?

Will he get 3 years? Sure. Was that the question?  Nope.

Is he going to get us to titletown? Fuck no.

In summary, he will get 3 years, and that means we'll still be wandering further into the desert a full decade since we mattered.

[dad 557]

I don't know. Nothing EVER plays out like I think it will with Longhorn Football. 

[ButtFumble 5159]

I voted for waiting to see how the season plays out, but the reality based on his past history, his attitude and what I have seen at Texas so far is I have serious doubts he will ever win championships and right now I have some doubt that he will even be a good coach at Texas

but there was some improvement from week one last year, but that improvement did not last I am willing to see if it last this year (I do not think there will really be much improvement or that it will last though)

so far he has shown 100% of the issues I was concerned with before he was hired and nothing positive at all

[BurntOrangeCrush 1004]

I voted no. I was under the impression Herman was an offensive guru. He has a horrible OC and won't do anything about it. What's frustrating is see what other coaches and OC's in the Big 12 can do with lesser talent.

I bought into Herman. I was wrong. A NC caliber coach doesn't bring a team unprepared. Yesterday was an embarrassment.

Last, I thought Ehlinger would make a good jump in year 2. Herman sure as shit ain't no QB whisperer.

[Bullneck 19022]

We've been so bad for so long it's going to be hard to maintain the interest level we've enjoyed from time to time (Royal and Brown).   

[ernest_t_bass 1196]

1 hour ago, RandomIdoit said:

He's going to get another year unless we win less than 6.

[Tx_2_Sc85 332]

I chose option 2 because that’s like my opinion man. I could’ve chosen option 3 because this is the year that will define him at Texas. If he doesn’t go on an incredible run and somehow win 10 games (lol I know right) then i think I’ll have seen all I need to see. Barring the above stated happening then next year is just a lost year, bc “all coaches should get 3 years bs”. 

[Zepol87 9172]

Dumb thread. Thanks for voting

[Tx_2_Sc85 332]

Also it’s time we quit worrying about getting the next “up and coming” coaches. We need a proven winner at this level. Texas is not a learn on the job type position. Laugh at the aggy’s all we want and I’m sure they’ll be pretty bad this year but at least they’ve completely bought in (sold their souls) to attempt to be a formidable football program. It’s time for Texas to decide whether or not we want to compete at the highest level of college football or even athletics in general. Or are we willing to accept that being above board ethically very well could mean that we’ll be second tier athletically?

[TexArcher 37534]

I think he definitely can or he definitely can't win us a championship.  Time will definitely tell.  Also, I like boobs.

[Mr.Hovis 70]

Voted no, but to be fair there isn't another coach that would come here and win a Natty. Texas doesn't operate the same way as Alabama, Ohio State etc. and I am good with that. That said we shouldn't be getting beat down by the teams  that we have for the last 10 years though. Jesus, we should be able to get to 8-9 wins a year on a semi consistence basis, go to a decent bowl and have our players not be an embarrassment. I for one could live with this.

[ImissWallyPryor 9045]

1 hour ago, Radical Larry said:

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do more look like?

 

 

[ImissWallyPryor 9045]

You get one question, and that’s what you come up with?

[perfectchaos007 6596]

Let’s see how he does @Kansas first. Haven’t won there since 2014

[markstanco 12520]

I remember us bitching about 10 wins instead of 11 with mack.

Oh how times have changed.

[Scheiss Meister 8399]

Herman is 7 and 7 so far at Texas.  His staff is woefully inept, and he doesn't hold them accountable.  The offensive play calling shows no awareness of game situation or personnel strengths and weaknesses.  Defenders start too many games out of position and looking lost.  He doesn't inspire confidence and pride in the team, the staff, or the fanbase. 

Other than that, I guess he's ok.

[Twizzler 161]

Becoming comfortably numb to Texas football.

So I just picked 3 yrs  because my bitching won't even make me feel better. 

[JohnnyRage 1617]

EABOD not an option?

[GotThatFire 166]

 We have college football right where we want it. Our plan the whole time was to become unimaginably insignificant, to the point where other teams stopped treating us like their Super Bowl. Our team doesn’t give a shit about the games outside of a few games each year and it’s hard to compete with a bunch of heartless pansies against a team that’s in their Super Bowl 

[Js1 85141]

Never was. Dude felt like a fraud. Figured out how to motivate underrated and underhyped kids to win 2 big games in 2 years to get himself a $5 million contract at Texas. That was his plan and we bought it without even considering anyone else. Ignored or brushed away all the red flags 

Edited September 3, 2018 by Js1

[GotThatFire 166]

 Other teams just care more when they play Texas. If we just get our ass kicked enough maybe the players/coaches will snap and WE’LL be the ones with something to prove!

[ChiTownDoc 21102]

2 hours ago, Radical Larry said:

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do more look like?

 

Holy hell.  You really are him.  

[Scheiss Meister 8399]

29 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

So should we mark you down for option three or four? 

I am very firmly in the Option 2 camp, thank you.

[Topper13 3201]

I voted no, in part because the motherfucker reminds me of Luschek, from Orange is the new Black (Yeah I watch it, so what?). He's a smarmy bitch. Also, he's always trying to find new ways to cover up his balding front head. Bitch is insecure. 

[phdhorn 6224]

6 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

Now this is an interesting question.

If you're a Navajo code talker

Edited September 3, 2018 by phdhorn

[Spawn of Cthulhu 2241]

7 hours ago, Radical Larry said:

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do more look like?

 

DangerSnaxSox

[TwiceHorn 31311]

I've never really been on the mensa train.  I have always had some doubts, but they were more along the lines of "nothing I have seen guarantees that this is the guy."  Now I have even graver doubts.  Is it possible he pulls the chestnuts out of the fire, yes.  Will he, I dunno man, I'm worried.

[mulletpelini 5210]

I thought you finally had the dude.  Then the backpack dance happened.  And then I knew you had Pelini light.  Congrats!

[Captain Ron 12813]

Herman doesn't have us competing for conference titles. Fuck he barely has us competing for bowl eligibility. And you're talking national titles? Fucking LOL. 

[Trey3216 15325]

8 hours ago, Radical Larry said:

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do more look like?

 

How beers many message board many too are be to on?

[Stampeder 92]

Pros:  All the tertiary things surrounding a program, such as facilities improvements, social media, recruiting staff/organization, etc., he seems to have going in the right direction.  Appears to be run logically, professionally, and in some areas with some vision.  

Cons:  Either didn't have the pull, insight, or was too insecure to go after a more seasoned coaching staff.  To make matters worse, after a year of evidence, he was reluctant or unwilling to make necessary changes.  On offense, his forte', it's pretty obvious Shane or Cam Rising are the better options for *this* team.  Our WRs are the strength on offense and the O-line does look improved, especially at pass pro.  At the end of the UM game they were dropping 8 and daring Sam to throw.  He threw 2 picks.  TH is paid to understand which QB fits the team better and made the wrong call.  Just as he did last year when the O-line was in shambles and it was obvious we needed a QB who could tuck it and go.

Outlook:  TH is approaching this like he has a 5 year contract.  Reality is he's got 3.  Hopefully he understands that because if not he'll be gone by the end of next year.  

[XOVERX 5]

I voted "no" because Mensa is not football smart. He doesn't play the percentages, and he has zero clue about how to fit personnel to scheme. Zero.

The smartest football coaches are guys like Tom Landry. Tom almost always took the points. He almost never went for two - a low percentage decision - because Tom apparently figured he might need that one point late in the game.

Tomwould take the 3 with 4 minutes left in the 4th, and 4th and 3 on the opponent's 21, behind by 4. Then he'd kick the winning FG with 20 seconds left in the game.

I can't tell you how many times, early in the 4th quarter, I'd bitch at Tom for taking the 3, or the 1 extra point, instead of going for two, when it was so obvious that "I" was right, but we took Tom's easy points instead.

But here come the Cowboys winning the game with seconds left because Tom took the 3 a few minutes earlier.

Tom taught me something: Play the percentages and take the points.

Last year how many times did Mensa go for it on 4th down, deep in the opponent's end, instead of taking the 3? I still say Mensa lost USC because he f-ing refused to take the FGs, our crappy FG kicker notwithstanding, and went for the low percentage 4th down conversion attempt.

And this year here we go again. Mensa was stupid not to take the 1 at the end of the first half against MY. That mistake didn't figure into the loss this time, but it was still a stupid coaching call.

Mensa my ass.

[ClubWhatever 12087]

Anything is possible.  A better poll question  would have been should we just cut ties at the end of the season if he’s 6-6 again (which looks somewhat optimistic at this point).  I would say no provided that CDC can get him to do what Patterson did and bring in a real OC who can run his own system with hands off.  Is that likely ?  Of course not.  So I would say yes.  But it’s not going to happen.   He’s not going to get fired this year and CDC will be doing a search in 2019. 

Edited September 3, 2018 by ClubWhatever

[tonedeaf 56]

6 hours ago, Js1 said:

Never was. Dude felt like a fraud. Figured out how to motivate underrated and underhyped kids to win 2 big games in 2 years to get himself a $5 million contract at Texas. That was his plan and we bought it without even considering anyone else. Ignored or brushed away all the red flags 

This is the correct answer.  Never could figure out why most thought he was the savior of Texas football.  Fuck that prick.

And I voted NO.

[deadshank 24651]

9 hours ago, Radical Larry said:

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do more look like?

 

That is still an option. 

[EtOH 63]

Ever get so dehydrated on a bender during a Longhorns loss and spend the next two days trying to pass a nachos/brisket/popcorn log?  That’s us trying to get rid of Tom Herman. Fuck this turd. 

[TXSooner518 2432]

I voted "no" because Mensa is not football smart. He doesn't play the percentages, and he has zero clue about how to fit personnel to scheme. Zero.
The smartest football coaches are guys like Tom Landry. Tom almost always took the points. He almost never went for two - a low percentage decision - because Tom apparently figured he might need that one point late in the game.
Tomwould take the 3 with 4 minutes left in the 4th, and 4th and 3 on the opponent's 21, behind by 4. Then he'd kick the winning FG with 20 seconds left in the game.
I can't tell you how many times, early in the 4th quarter, I'd bitch at Tom for taking the 3, or the 1 extra point, instead of going for two, when it was so obvious that "I" was right, but we took Tom's easy points instead.
But here come the Cowboys winning the game with seconds left because Tom took the 3 a few minutes earlier.
Tom taught me something: Play the percentages and take the points.
Last year how many times did Mensa go for it on 4th down, deep in the opponent's end, instead of taking the 3? I still say Mensa lost USC because he f-ing refused to take the FGs, our crappy FG kicker notwithstanding, and went for the low percentage 4th down conversion attempt.
And this year here we go again. Mensa was stupid not to take the 1 at the end of the first half against MY. That mistake didn't figure into the loss this time, but it was still a stupid coaching call.
Mensa my ass.

Playing not to lose instead of playing to win isn't "playing the percentages" nor is it winning football.

I will grant you Tom Landry never went for 2, but that was less a strategic decision and more that he stopped coaching in 1988 and the NFL added the 2pc in 1994.

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

1 hour ago, Stampeder said:

Pros:  All the tertiary things surrounding a program, such as facilities improvements, social media, recruiting staff/organization, etc., he seems to have going in the right direction.  Appears to be run logically, professionally, and in some areas with some vision.  

Cons:  Either didn't have the pull, insight, or was too insecure to go after a more seasoned coaching staff.  To make matters worse, after a year of evidence, he was reluctant or unwilling to make necessary changes.  On offense, his forte', it's pretty obvious Shane or Cam Rising are the better options for *this* team.  Our WRs are the strength on offense and the O-line does look improved, especially at pass pro.  At the end of the UM game they were dropping 8 and daring Sam to throw.  He threw 2 picks.  TH is paid to understand which QB fits the team better and made the wrong call.  Just as he did last year when the O-line was in shambles and it was obvious we needed a QB who could tuck it and go.

Outlook:  TH is approaching this like he has a 5 year contract.  Reality is he's got 3.  Hopefully he understands that because if not he'll be gone by the end of next year.  

Good post, and can be summed up by many old-school Texas sayings including "all hat and no cattle" and "all sizzle and no steak."

I hope Herman is sending Greg Ward, Tony Levine, and Ed Oliver most of his yearly salary because those three guys are the only reason he is in Austin today. He rode Ward to two upsets, Ward was a Levine recruit, and the flukey recruitment of Oliver tricked people into thinking he was some kind of recruiting witch. 

[longhrnfan 61]

I hereby challenge mensa to a plucker's trivia night. He can bring 4 people of his choice, and I can do the same. If he loses, he has to admit that Tim Beck sucks. 

Any day, any time (with sufficient notice so I can get a cheap flight). 

[Vic Mackey 46936]

17 hours ago, Js1 said:

Never was. Dude felt like a fraud. Figured out how to motivate underrated and underhyped kids to win 2 big games in 2 years to get himself a $5 million contract at Texas. That was his plan and we bought it without even considering anyone else. Ignored or brushed away all the red flags 

He's Charlie Strong 2.0 at this point. Both had similar debut seasons that ended in a shit bowl except Herman won his and Strong got blown out. Both start off the 2nd season with a bad loss. Strong's was bad because of how bad ND buttfucked us. Herman's was bad because it was a shit Maryland team and this was our 2nd year in a row losing to them. Not to mention they have an interim coach. So our Mensa $5mill a year coach with all this hype can't even beat Maryland without a real coach.

Herman won't even sniff a Big 12 title, much less national championships.