Dallas officer kills man after mistaking apartment for her own, police say

[clapclapclap 9000]

https://www.waterton.com/news/waterton-acquires-288-unit-apartment-community-dallas

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Smart home technology, which was installed in some units prior to Waterton’s acquisition, will be introduced by Waterton into the remaining apartments. This technology provides residents with keyless entry and the ability to control in‐unit lighting and temperature from their smartphones.

Don't know what the hallway looks like, but I can envision someone absorbed in thinking about something else accidentally going to the wrong door, maybe even swiping their card/fob and if the door had been left unlocked then opening the door without noticing the green open light didn't activate.  Victim could have been already close to the door and hearing a noise and seeing it upon start moving toward it.  Cop is startled seeing someone unexpected within feet of her approaching reflexively draws and fires.  Doesn't excuse the decision to shoot first and retreat/think later.

How long has she lived there?  Can the doors be left unlocked?  Did she know the neighbor?  How far apart were their doors?  Was she on the wrong floor?  Took the stairs or hit the wrong button on the elevator? 

Regardless of circumstance, she killed someone while she was trespassing and was not responding to a distress call.  So why was she not arrested, or at least detained until interviewed?

Have studies been done on if female officers are more likely to reflexively shoot earlier in certain situations?  Because of the more frequent size disadvantage are they, on average, more likely to innately escalate to using their weapon?   I'd be curious how she scored on personality testing:  is her first instinct to make decisions based on logic or emotion?  For 2/3rds of females and 1/3rd of males it is emotion, which can be overcome by awareness/training, but it is how we are born. 

Edited September 7, 2018 by clapclapclap

[Newdoc 3508]

People probably ought to hang wreaths on their doors to differentiate the apartments. And change them out for the seasons. For instance, it’s September and you could put out a Pumpkin Spice themed wreath. That way, you walk into your apartment with the smell of autumn in the air and just maybe you won’t get shot by a tired L.E.O..

Just a suggestion.

[Jive Turkey 12930]

If charged, I'm sure the officer will raise the Castle Doctrine because she "reasonably thought" she was in her own apartment.  Wonder if that defense has been successfully used in this context - mistakenly thinking you're in your own dwelling and defending yourself.

I'd say there's no chance, but affluenza worked, so who knows.

[ImissWallyPryor 9046]

3 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

"The officer was not injured in the shooting"

Good thing they cleared that up. 

Just another way of saying that there was no sign of an altercation prior to the shooting. That fact actually makes it harder for her to claim self defense. It is someone pertinent to the story. 

[Cheeseweasel 26439]

27 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

Regardless of circumstance, she killed someone while she was trespassing and was not responding to a distress call.  So why was she not arrested, or at least detained until interviewed?

I'll take "Questions we all know the answer to" for $500, Alex.

[FondrenRoad 4378]

27 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

https://www.waterton.com/news/waterton-acquires-288-unit-apartment-community-dallas

Don't know what the hallway looks like, but I can envision someone absorbed in thinking about something else accidentally going to the wrong door, maybe even swiping their card/fob and if the door had been left unlocked then opening the door without noticing the green open light didn't activate.  Victim could have been already close to the door and hearing a noise and seeing it upon start moving toward it.  Cop is startled seeing someone unexpected within feet of her approaching reflexively draws and fires.  Doesn't excuse the decision to shoot first and retreat/think later.

How long has she lived there?  Can the doors be left unlocked?  Did she know the neighbor?  How far apart were their doors?  Was she on the wrong floor?  Took the stairs or hit the wrong button on the elevator? 

Regardless of circumstance, she killed someone while she was trespassing and was not responding to a distress call.  So why was she not arrested, or at least detained until interviewed?

Have studies been done on if female officers are more likely to reflexively shoot earlier in certain situations?  Because of the more frequent size disadvantage are they, on average, more likely to innately escalate to using their weapon?   I'd be curious how she scored on personality testing:  is her first instinct to make decisions based on logic or emotion?  For 2/3rds of females and 1/3rd of males it is emotion, which can be overcome by awareness/training, but it is how we are born. 

That's a lot of unnecessary questions.  Did you not see that she just finished working a full shift?

[cabowabo 4645]

Folks, let's at least get a full body shot of the alleged offender before rushing to judgment.

[Vic Mackey 47846]

 

[Gene Parmesan 4062]

What is the charge assuming the story is 100% true?  Manslaughter?

['stache 22115]

That's a lot of unnecessary questions.  Did you not see that she just finished working a full shift?

She’s a hero. How dare you question that.

[Jersey Man10 3748]

Fucking bitch.

[miguelito 11449]

7 minutes ago, Gene Parmesan said:

What is the charge assuming the story is 100% true?  Manslaughter?

Ha ha, no.

2 weeks paid vacation.

[Gene Parmesan 4062]

2 minutes ago, miguelito said:

Ha ha, no.

2 weeks paid vacation.

I meant in general without the immunity of being a cop. 

[TornACL 7791]

Cops just want to go home to their family at the end of the day. Or go to someone else's home and shoot them dead. Either or.  

[Bash Riprock 1695]

pics of cop?

[BrazilHorn 6792]

Was this guy actually a dog? Would make a lot more sense then. 

[0xdeadbeef 1695]

 

4 hours ago, 'stache said:

 

"I won't go into that information right now," Dallas police spokesman Sgt. Warren Mitchell said. "I mean, we have not interviewed her, and like I said this is just a preliminary statement. We still have a lot to do in this investigation. ... This is all we can give you at this time."

 

Until a couple years ago DPD had a policy of allowing officers involved in a shooting up to 72 hours before they had to give a statement.  They also had permission to view all video tape before making their statement.  After growing protests, they ended that policy and were going to treat officers the same as everyone else with respect to giving statements.   The fact that they hadn't interviewed her seems to indicate that is not actually the cases.

This is why people hate the police.

I can't image a scenario where a joe-public goes in a wrong apartment, shoots and kills someone , and isn't arrested on the spot.

There are 2 types of cops: 

• Those that commit crimes
• Those that allow criminal cops to commit crimes

She's in the first group, but how many dozens of cops are covering her ass, probably letting her sober up, helping her craft a story, not asking key questions, etc.

 

 

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[52-80 19379]

He probably owed her drug money

[Steamboat1874 4282]

2 minutes ago, 0xdeadbeef said:

 

Until a couple years ago DPD had a policy of allowing officers involved in a shooting up to 72 hours before they had to give a statement.  They also had permission to view all video tape before making their statement.  After growing protests, they ended that policy and were going to treat officers the same as everyone else with respect to giving statements.   The fact that they hadn't interviewed her seems to indicate that is not actually the cases.

This is why people hate the police.

I can't image a scenario where a joe-public goes in a wrong apartment, shoots and kills someone , and isn't arrested on the spot.

There are 2 types of cops: 

• Those that commit crimes
• Those that allow criminal cops to commit crimes

She's in the first group, but how many dozens of cops are covering her ass, probably letting her sober up, helping her craft a story, not asking key questions, etc.

 

 

Generalize much?

[Steel Shank 9533]

But, she made it home alive, which was her objective.

Edited September 7, 2018 by Steel Shank
un CRing my post

[Vito Andolini 9431]

This is just so heartbreaking and infuriating. A 26 year old kid chooses an apartment with security, presuming he can go about his life and make his mark. And now his family is making funeral arrangements. 

[SDG 3335]

If any of us did this (guilty or not); we’d at minimum be sitting in jail waiting for a bail hearing.  A cop does it and they go home without questioning and continue to collect a pay check...

Edited September 7, 2018 by SDG

[Ghost of LL 15664]

The bastard shouldn't have cheated on her with that slut from Lee Harvey's.

[HOOKEM4 5151]

22 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Generalize much?

Hi cop

[PilotsError 2342]

6 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

The bastard shouldn't have cheated on her with that slut from Lee Harvey's.

Yeah we're going to find out they knew each other beyond neighbors.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, PilotsError said:

 

 

druuuuuuunk

https://stluciatimes.com/2018/09/07/saint-lucian-shot-dead-after-dallas-officer-enters-wrong-apartment/

Post 31, beeetches.

But seriously, is it any doubt that she hit some booze hard after a "full shift" at her favorite cop bar.

[HOOKEM4 5151]

This is gonna turn into the next episode of goliath once the pigs are done with the web they are spinning. Just hope there is a Billy irl that will come to uncover it.

[Steamboat1874 4282]

3 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

Hi cop

Hardly but to put cops in just those two categories is ridiculous. 

[Brisketexan 106618]

37 minutes ago, 0xdeadbeef said:

Dallas police spokesman Sgt. Warren Mitchell said. "I mean, we have not interviewed her,

This.  This remains jaw-dropping.

Any other person walks into another person's apartment and shoots the occupant dead.....you're goddamned right they have been interviewed, right away.

This is special treatment, plaint and simple.  And it's utterly disgusting and incompatible with a society that claims to be one of Rule of Law.  It reveals that we are actually a Rule of Badge society, and Badge trumps Law.  Cops are above the law.  And don't you forget it.

[Zepol87 9308]

10 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Hardly but to put cops in just those two categories is ridiculous. 

No it not ridiculous. 

One of my soccer buddies knew him from a previous employer. Professionally he was a pretty stand up guy

[bluto 4980]

Read an article about the guy written by Harding Univ, his alma mater, seemed like a great person /nosarcasm. Damn shame and waste 

 

ok maybe not written by Harding, but here's the article

https://christianchronicle.org/fatal-mistake-harding-graduate-known-for-his-beautiful-singing-voice-killed/

Edited September 7, 2018 by bluto

[Red Six 131]

2 hours ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

It was a black dude

You can just stop right there.

[NeverMarryAStripper 22241]

48 minutes ago, 0xdeadbeef said:

 

There are 2 types of cops: 

• Those that commit crimes
• Those that allow criminal cops to commit crimes

She's in the first group, but how many dozens of cops are covering her ass, probably letting her sober up, helping her craft a story, not asking key questions, etc.

 

 

 

46 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Generalize much?

He did leave off the third group, those few cops that are either run off, or killed, by the other cops.

[Deej 77669]

So he comes to the door to figure out what's going on, opens it, and she just shoots him? That seems to be what that implies. Not a thing will happen to her. 

[bluto 4980]

No way she gets a murder charge assuming there wasn't previous beef, so what's the worst... voluntary manslaughter?

[Lhorn 5080]

5 hours ago, DigDug said:

I am finding her version a little difficult to believe.

This.  Unless drunk, how often would you walk up to the door other than your own, thinking it was your house or apartment?  And how often would that door be unlocked?  

[cafe society 2902]

Just a thought; if the cop is also black, the politicians in the force might decide after deliberation to throw her to the wolves in a demonstration of "See, we don't cover up for rogue officers."

[cabowabo 4645]

I would think it would take about a second or two after opening the door the realize it wasn't your crib. There has to be more to this story.

[Deej 77669]

4 minutes ago, Lhorn said:

This.  Unless drunk, how often would you walk up to the door other than your own, thinking it was your house or apartment?  And how often would that door be unlocked?  

Drunk or on a bunch of "meds".

[pacman 7488]

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Mitchell said that after the officer reported Jean was wounded, other police officers who responded administered first aid to him.

So, she realizes she has shot a man in his own home (not her home) but never renders any aid to the dying victim?

 

Edited September 7, 2018 by pacman

[Cheeseweasel 26439]

Just now, pacman said:

So, she realizes she has shot a man in his own home (not her home) but never renders any aid to the dying victim?

I'm guessing she shot him. Figured it out and took off home.

Y'all are missing the most important point. The (soon to be released) news that this guy was a drug dealer/had unpaid parking tickets/beats his dog/worked at Subway.

Time for the full-on character assault spin.

[C-Man 27685]

1 hour ago, Vic Mackey said:

 

If this is true, they had to be dating or somehow otherwise involved, right? Or else she thought she was banging on the door of somebody else's place she was seeing.

[mdmost 43849]

 

[Zepol87 9308]

 

[Nuge 2025]

These must be those really fancy apartments that don't have numbers on the doors.

[Cheeseweasel 26439]

2 minutes ago, mdmost said:

 

She feels bad.

Whelp, that's good enough for me! Let her go!

[Zepol87 9308]

Poor baby she is a wreck. I didn't mean to kill him. 

Fuck you bitch

[Jive Turkey 12930]

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Shooting happened shortly after resident opened his own door.

How shortly?  Seconds?  Minutes? 

Unless there are witnesses (which one tweet suggests there may be, but who knows for sure), it'll be the officer's word against a dead man's word.

[LurkingHorn 1091]

According to the AP, police chief says the department is seeking a warrant for manslaughter. 

[conVINCEd 21477]

I used to live in a big complex.  I've tried to go in the wrong apartment a couple of times.  Even when hammered, if the key didn't work, my first reaction was to look at the apartment number and see if I''m at the right door.