Dallas officer kills man after mistaking apartment for her own, police say

[Deej 76564]

20 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Eh, not so sure about that.  Dallas has a black police chief and a black DA, both of whom are sensitive to "community issues."  And a Dallas County jury just convicted a cop of murder. 

That's going to depend on the facts, though.

Moreover, since she was off duty, I don't see how the City gets tagged with anything in a civil suit.

The facts are she was trying to forcibly enter his apartment and shot him. She shouldn't have a leg to stand on.

[TwiceHorn 31272]

4 minutes ago, Deej said:

The facts are she was trying to forcibly enter his apartment and shot him. She shouldn't have a leg to stand on.

I'm not the one convinced she's going to get off.

[FondrenRoad 4378]

7 minutes ago, Deej said:

The facts are she was trying to forcibly enter his apartment and shot him. She shouldn't have a leg to stand on.

She looks like shes going down under the circumstances. The real question is whether the department or the city are going to be on the hook for damages in a civil suit. 

I think they should be since she intervened in what she thought was a crime. The PD is treating it as fully off duty though, but that's probably a CYA more than anything else. I guess we will find out once civil charges are filed.

[TwiceHorn 31272]

6 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

 

I think they should be since she intervened in what she thought was a crime.

How do we know this?  Not trying to be a dick.

 

And even if she was "on duty." there's no respondeat superior in a Bivens claim and the Tort Claims Act is going to limit his family to $250k.  And apparently that's going to be covered by a TML policy.

Edited September 8, 2018 by TwiceHorn

[Lat22 3994]

Women aren’t emotionally stable enough to carry guns and be cops. Yep. I said it. 

[woohorn 1131]

Women aren’t emotionally stable enough to carry guns and be cops. Yep. I said it. 

What are your thoughts on their fitness for the military/combat?

[ImissWallyPryor 9045]

So, is the roster of posters on this thread the same as the mob on the Politics forum?  /no CR

[ImissWallyPryor 9045]

Asking for a friend. 

[NeverMarryAStripper 21781]

3 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

How the Fuck wasn’t she interviewed after the crime?

I think that's normal.  I've never been interviewed immediately after killing someone.

[Brothahorn 10085]

His pool view/parking space was to die for.

Fuck that bitch. I hope she has to serve a full sentence.

[Catdaddyhorn 3444]

Well, well, well. What do we have here?

[conVINCEd 21468]

3, x, 1,2.  Which one is the cop?

 

edit:  so she’s the ugliest bitch in the lineup.

Edited September 8, 2018 by conVINCEd

[Catdaddyhorn 3444]

Who knows that may or may not be her to his right.  People are basically grabbing anything off of his Facebook and claiming it's her.  Here's a video from after the shooting shot by one of the neighbors.  

 

Edited September 8, 2018 by Catdaddyhorn

[austingirl 2186]

This is the weirdest fucking story.

[cmontexas 3253]

Cop in the vid looks nothing like the girl in that pic

[C-Man 27052]

Well, well, well. What do we have here?

Hmm.

[Neonmoon 38127]

Is that true? If so, the purported manslaughter charge is laughable 

[Catdaddyhorn 3444]

32 minutes ago, cmontexas said:

Cop in the vid looks nothing like the girl in that pic

Yeah I know.  That's why I hedged a little in the post with the Instagram video.  

[naija 2854]

the guy that posted that has already put several disclaimers that its not verified information, he doesn't know who ANYONE in the picture is, just saw it somewhere and wanted to repost.

social media is the Devil's work at times

[TwiceHorn 31272]

1 minute ago, naija said:

the guy that posted that has already put several disclaimers that its not verified information, he doesn't know who ANYONE in the picture is, just saw it somewhere and wanted to repost.

social media is the Devil's work at times

Most of the time.

[cmontexas 3253]

Best thing for DPD would be if it turned out to be a scorned ex situation because it would keep things from going all racial and haywire

Would be pretty easy to verify if she actually does live 1 floor above him

Edited September 8, 2018 by cmontexas

[naija 2854]

ummm, if its a White scorned ex, it will still get racial... from both sides

[cmontexas 3253]

25 minutes ago, naija said:

ummm, if its a White scorned ex, it will still get racial... from both sides

I think if there's a clear motive that has absolutely nothing to do with DPD, they can just punish her.

It will look way better for DPD than what it looks like now. Which is that its officers cant even go home right without murdering innocent black men, and pretty much getting away with it.

Edited September 8, 2018 by cmontexas
Terrible runon and grammer

[Constant 6722]

1 hour ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

Well, well, well. What do we have here?

None of those girls are the officer. Her photo will be all over soon enough. Social media is terrible. 

[SDG 3319]

5 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Eh, not so sure about that.  Dallas has a black police chief and a black DA, both of whom are sensitive to "community issues."  And a Dallas County jury just convicted a cop of murder. 

That's going to depend on the facts, though.

Moreover, since she was off duty, I don't see how the City gets tagged with anything in a civil suit.

By thier own admission “uniform”.

Edited September 8, 2018 by SDG

[FondrenRoad 4378]

4 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

How do we know this?  Not trying to be a dick.

 

And even if she was "on duty." there's no respondeat superior in a Bivens claim and the Tort Claims Act is going to limit his family to $250k.  And apparently that's going to be covered by a TML policy.

That's right.  Tort Claims Act.  I forgot yall fuck plaintiffs hard in Texas.  He has as much chance of justice as if he was killed by a Sheikh in Riyadh.  She will probably even still get to vest in and keep her whole pension.  She should have killed all his heirs for the price of one since yall allow it.  Nobody to file a claim at all then.

I guess shes lucky that he doesnt have any kids yet who would care about real justice.  Cuz they would probably price it at a few million but if they cant get that, they could probably buy it for less than 100k at a Texas women's prison. 

 

Edited September 8, 2018 by FondrenRoad

[FondrenRoad 4378]

But even Tort Claims Act is 500k for bodily injury, no?  Which I assume includes death. Still probably not enough justice for an offspring heir but much better than 250k.

And I'm not from such a backwards state, so tell me how this law works. If I make 600k a year and you unlawfully kill me, my kids are capped at 500k on a wrongful death suit?

[PilotsError 2282]

Even if the photo is wrong, we we're pretty much saying from the beginning she knew him. I still think it comes out that way.

[RPM 26223]

She found out he was making furtive movements with someone else.

[Foggy Notion 1202]

The officer's name and photo have been circulating on Twitter for the past few hours. She is not the woman next to the victim in the photo above. I haven't seen it reported by any real credible source yet, but her info is out there.

[Hanrahan 1306]

So why don’t you post a link to it?

[PilotsError 2282]

I keep saying disarm the police.

[Foggy Notion 1202]

29 minutes ago, Hanrahan said:

So why don’t you post a link to it?

Because I'm waiting to see it posted from a credible source instead of Internet sleuths like jim bob, Supastar J. Kwik!, BeholdAluminati and Priestess Moonfire. Those are some of the actual Twitter accounts that have posted her name and pics. 

If you search Twitter for #BothamJean, you'll see them. 

 

[WhatTheBuck 28711]

Hey guys, there's some information out there on the internet that may or may not be true. If you look for it, you'll find it. 

You're welcome. 

[TwiceHorn 31272]

7 hours ago, FondrenRoad said:

But even Tort Claims Act is 500k for bodily injury, no?  Which I assume includes death. Still probably not enough justice for an offspring heir but much better than 250k.

And I'm not from such a backwards state, so tell me how this law works. If I make 600k a year and you unlawfully kill me, my kids are capped at 500k on a wrongful death suit?

It's the Texas Tort Claims Act.  The waiver of sovereign immunity.  Limits personal injury damages, including death, to $250k per person, $500k per incident.  It only applies to the state, county and municipal entities.

Has nothing to do with individual or other non-governmental entities.

[Neonmoon 38127]

There is a picture of her standing next to someone with an All Lives Matter shirt. 

That ain’t good 

[TornACL 7675]

12 hours ago, woohorn said:

12 hours ago, Lat22 said:

Women aren’t emotionally stable enough to carry guns and be cops. Yep. I said it. 

What are your thoughts on their fitness for the military/combat?

I have thoughts on them fitness dick in their mouths. 

[TwiceHorn 31272]

8 hours ago, SDG said:

By thier own admission “uniform”.

Here's the deal with that.  If off-duty and working security, and doing security things, they are employed by the security company.  If doing personal things, they are not within the scope of their employment by the Department.  If, however, they are making an arrest (Texas cops have jurisdiction to make arrests for a few crimes that they witness), then they are within the scope of their employment, on- or off-duty.  Uniform or no uniform.

But, a federal civil rights claim has a different type of immunity, hard to punch through at times, but no caps on liability. However, unless the employing department had a policy or practice of doing what is complained of, there's no liability for the governmental employer.

[Brothahorn 10085]

the guy that posted that has already put several disclaimers that its not verified information, he doesn't know who ANYONE in the picture is, just saw it somewhere and wanted to repost.

social media is the Devil's work at times

Most of the time.

All the time

 

However, I don't think anyone will be shocked if this turns out to have been a scorned ex gone crazy.

 

Only thing worse than a crazy ex, is a crazy ex with a gun.

 

[Aqua Buddha 14508]

1 hour ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Hey guys, there's some information out there on the internet that may or may not be true. If you look for it, you'll find it. 

You're welcome. 

Or you could just tell us what it is.

[WhatTheBuck 28711]

2 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Or you could just tell us what it is.

Or, better yet, just not say anything in the first place. 

[Texas_Rocks 346]

This.  This remains jaw-dropping.
Any other person walks into another person's apartment and shoots the occupant dead.....you're goddamned right they have been interviewed, right away.
This is special treatment, plaint and simple.  And it's utterly disgusting and incompatible with a society that claims to be one of Rule of Law.  It reveals that we are actually a Rule of Badge society, and Badge trumps Law.  Cops are above the law.  And don't you forget it.

No doubt. It’s somewhat common practice for PDs to give officers the necessary time to form/fabricate the best possible story.

[Pato del Muerto 52342]

21 hours ago, pacman said:

So, she realizes she has shot a man in his own home (not her home) but never renders any aid to the dying victim?

 

She had finished her shift. 

[PilotsError 2282]

Her FULL TIME shift.

[4th and 5 4914]

She wasn’t drunk or on drugs. PDs have policies against drinking in uniforms. She just got off a shift. And a full one at that. 

She’s a woman who got lost in her own apartment building. How hard is that to believe?

She can’t work her electronic key. How hard is that to believe? Surprised she even had her keys.

The door won’t open, clearly, this is the door’s fault, or her husband’s fault.

So brother Botham is in his crib, studying some Bible passages, when there is a commotion at his door.

He goes to the door in inquire, and she-cop-who-cannot-be-wrong-but-is-deathly-scared-of-African-American-males pops a cap,in his ass.

 

 

 

[Vic Mackey 46936]

So has this bitch been arrested yet?

 

[Errestaurants 2570]

Pretty sure they have issued a warrant but she hasnt been brought in yet. At least as of this morning.

Crazy that they've drawn blood but havent interviewed her to understand what the hell happened. Any of us would of been in jail Thursday night.

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[PilotsError 2282]

If she's smart she lawyered up and keeps her mouth shut

[Vic Mackey 46936]

3 minutes ago, PilotsError said:

If she's smart she lawyered up and keeps her mouth shut

Do people in law enforcement get free representation?

[SDG 3319]

6 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Do people in law enforcement get free representation?

Union, but as Twice said she was off duty so this one has some strange angles.