Dallas officer kills man after mistaking apartment for her own, police say

[HOOKEM4 5152]

Just now, TXSooner518 said:

No, 5th Amendment out front shoulda told you.  

I am just making sure I understand the ins and out and what have you's. Gooby's comments confused the hell out of me and made me question what I thought I knew.

[TXSooner518 2455]

1 minute ago, Cousin Strawberry said:

He must have nerves of steel not to have shot those people who were in "his" apartment.

They asked if he shot them, needs to ask if he feared for his life.

[TXSooner518 2455]

I bet this teacher gives the kids a Woodrow at Wilson High.

[HOOKEM4 5152]

Can someone make a list of these idiots aimlessly living their lives with no idea where they are or what apartment they live in? I would love to keep as far away from these fuckwits as possible.

[77horn 216]

Apartment complex must be loving all the free publicity about their locks and general security.

[hullabelew 3730]

Straw-grasping 101

[Gooby 642]

2 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

I am just making sure I understand the ins and out and what have you's. Gooby's comments confused the hell out of me and made me question what I thought I knew.

I was told she'd be back.  Imagine my dismay at some 5'6" dude on the stand who has horrible luck finding his apartment.

[4th and 5 4997]

OK I'm trying to fight crime fighting and my legal assistant is off and the goddamn phone won't stop ringing.

Did the state not re-cross Guyger after lunch?

[TwiceHorn 31996]

Maybe it's just me, but all this testimony about going to the wrong apartment now seems almost irrelevant.

It now seems to be all about what happened at the door.

[hullabelew 3730]

Well...hellloooooo Jessica!  Have you slept with any of your students?

 

Edited September 27, 2019 by hullabelew

[TwiceHorn 31996]

12 minutes ago, TXSooner518 said:

Again after you fucking make this mistake once, how the fuck do you not become aware and give the slightest effort???? Just inconceivable to me.

M&A at Kirkland & Ellis that's how.

Initially a dig at biglaw corporate types, but to be fair, that guy has probably put in more than his share of all-nighters.

Edited September 27, 2019 by TwiceHorn

[Gooby 642]

2 minutes ago, 77horn said:

Apartment complex must be loving all the free publicity about their locks and general security.

The Oaks at Ooops My Bad Place

[hullabelew 3730]

2 minutes ago, 4th and 5 said:

OK I'm trying to fight crime fighting and my legal assistant is off and the goddamn phone won't stop ringing.

Did the state not re-cross Guyger after lunch?

Nope.  We are now on to bumbling neighbors who can't find their apartments and their keys haven't worked at one time or another. 

[Homercles 10206]

[Chilly Water 421]

Seems like a lot of 31 year olds have a case of the "dumb"

[TXSooner518 2455]

3 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

M&A at Kirkland & Ellis that's how.

[hullabelew 3730]

Oh my god!  You parked on the wrong floor!  What in the world did you do?

 

[hookem17 485]

5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Maybe it's just me, but all this testimony about going to the wrong apartment now seems almost irrelevant.

It now seems to be all about what happened at the door.

Unless they say “I walked into an apartment with with a doormat, even though mine didn’t have one, and a cracked open door, behind which I could hear a person walking around,” it doesn’t seem like it should move the needle.

[RPM 26565]

[TXSooner518 2455]

2 minutes ago, hookem17 said:

Unless they say “I walked into an apartment with with a doormat, even though mine didn’t have one, and a cracked open door, behind which I could hear a person walking around,” it doesn’t seem like it should move the needle.

And also then I immediately murdered them because fear for my life yo.

[RPM 26565]

[hullabelew 3730]

They are going to keep doing this until the judge makes them stop.  

 

[Huckleberry 34407]

1 minute ago, TXSooner518 said:

And also then I immediately murdered them self-defended them to death because fear for my life yo.

Fixed for the defense

[gsoda3 3358]

so... these witnesses all realized eventually they were at the wrong apartment.  this helps the defense how?

[smuggs 9394]

So defense brings up a lady who noticed she was standing at the wrong apartment door because:

- missing doormat.

 

Wtf is going on here?

 

 

 

Edited September 27, 2019 by smuggs

[hullabelew 3730]

He will let them keep bringing these lost fools up...and in closing, 'and not a one of them killed anyone'. 

[TXSooner518 2455]

Just now, hullabelew said:

He will let them keep bringing these lost fools up...and in closing, 'and not a one of them killed anyone'. 

And not a one of them pulled a weapon. And not a one of them expressed any fear for their lives. And not a one of them had the extra security blanket of a taser and a police radio. 

[HOOKEM4 5152]

They just want to get to the end of the day. Start tomorrow with their key witness, who is the Dr? Or whomever?

[4th and 5 4997]

In all fairness none of these women were armed

[hookem17 485]

2 minutes ago, hullabelew said:

They are going to keep doing this until the judge makes them stop.  

 

 It’s Friday afternoon after a week of testimony. Plus the most exciting witness  testified this morning. The jury isn’t listening anymore. The defense is just waiting for recess so they can build up their defense through experts tomorrow when the jury is fresh again. 

[hookem17 485]

2 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

They just want to get to the end of the day. Start tomorrow with their key witness, who is the Dr? Or whomever?

Beat me to it. 

[hullabelew 3730]

Will they have court on Sat or wait until Monday? 

 

[BigDHornfan 6625]

I heard yesterday they will go tomorrow until 4pm

[clapclapclap 9000]

5 minutes ago, 4th and 5 said:

In all fairness none of these women were armed

How many Venus de Milos live in that complex?

[RPM 26565]

Too bad they didn't have a battle dressing and first aid kit handy.

[gsoda3 3358]

this officer doesn't seem very bright.  

[4th and 5 4997]

So the state objects (and gets sustained) when the defense asks "what would you do" to the cop, but the defense does not.

 

nice job, defense attorneys

[Seasick Sailor 3747]

Fellow cop just testified that he would wait for backup in a similar situation. 

[HOOKEM4 5152]

I am sure this is common in most proceedings but the absolute and clear bias the cops have that are testifying is terrifying.

[Orange&White 5564]

If the defense keeps bringing up people to say that they were often confused, could the prosecution just ask them "Did anyone die when that happened?"

[gsoda3 3358]

Just now, Orange&White said:

If the defense keeps bringing up people to say that they were often confused, could the prosecution just ask them "Did anyone die when that happened?"

they don't even have to ask that.  they just have to ask "when you heard people inside what you thought was your apartment were you scared for your life".

[Orange&White 5564]

The one thing I keep thinking about is that if my job is as an apartment maintenance person, this case could very well insure that it is absolutely 100% ok for someone to shoot me while I am doing my job.

[Huckleberry 34407]

7 minutes ago, Seasick Sailor said:

Fellow cop just testified that he would wait for backup in a similar situation. 

Is that bad?

Was that on cross? If so I hope the prosecutor responded with "Seems reasonable."

Edited September 27, 2019 by Huckleberry

[TwiceHorn 31996]

1 minute ago, Orange&White said:

If the defense keeps bringing up people to say that they were often confused, could the prosecution just ask them "Did anyone die when that happened?"

They have.  Sometimes, from a persuasion standpoint, it's better to let the jury reach that conclusion unaided than give them the old trout slap.

This testimony is just a bunch of wadding the defense is shoving in the gaping wound that the state blew in the defendant.

[hookem17 485]

Hearings about expert testimony at 3:05. 

[HOOKEM4 5152]

Did the judge just say she hoped to have the jury break at 4? Meaning leave for the day or start deliberations???

[gsoda3 3358]

recessing til 3:05 at which point they're going to prepare for an expert's testimony, jury is coming back in at 4.  what are they going to do between 3:05 and 4?  discuss what's permissible to ask and what isn't permissible as evidence? 

[hullabelew 3730]

3 minutes ago, Orange&White said:

If the defense keeps bringing up people to say that they were often confused, could the prosecution just ask them "Did anyone die when that happened?"

He did a couple of time.  He said, "and you didn't shoot anyone or they didn't shoot you, did they"

[Huckleberry 34407]

1 minute ago, gsoda3 said:

they don't even have to ask that.  they just have to ask "when you heard people inside what you thought was your apartment were you scared for your life".

IANAL but I've watched enough legal dramas on film and television to know you don't ask a question when you're not sure of the answer. This question could very easily be answered "yes" by someone. The question "in those situations did you ever shoot anyone?" would be a lot safer way to go based on my Hollywood expertise.

1 minute ago, Orange&White said:

The one thing I keep thinking about is that if my job is as an apartment maintenance person, this case could very well insure that it is absolutely 100% ok for someone to shoot me while I am doing my job.

I thought of this, too. If I'm an apartment maintenance guy I would refuse to enter an unoccupied apartment at any time moving forward.

[hullabelew 3730]

Is that Bear from ESPN Game Day staff in your defense team?